Geforce GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti Thread

[greatnoob]

This looks like a perfect card. If they can sell this at a good price level (unlike the 950) these card should be even more popular than the 750ti was and it'll force AMD to discount the 460 (once prices actually = MSRP) or put pressure on them to release a 465 sooner. You get more for your money. Consumers win.

 

[ElFenix]

Can anyone estimate the die size?

no banana so can't tell

 

[crisium]

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-launch-leak/

150mm2 from the "source" to Videocardz.

Hopefully there are both no-pin and 6-pin versions of 1050 Ti available, since we are seeing 6-pin photos I would guess that is the reference design. 1050 looks to be no-pin by default.

 

[tviceman]

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-launch-leak/

150mm2 from the "source" to Videocardz.

Hopefully there are both no-pin and 6-pin versions of 1050 Ti available, since we are seeing 6-pin photos I would guess that is the reference design. 1050 looks to be no-pin by default.

I'm sure there will be 1050 TI's without PCIe power connectors, otherwise Nvidia would not have clocked it so low.

Sounds kind of big for 40% less cores and 33% less memory controllers vs. the ~202mm2 GP106 GPU. I'd have guessed 130mm2.

 

[dark zero]

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-launch-leak/

150mm2 from the "source" to Videocardz.

Hopefully there are both no-pin and 6-pin versions of 1050 Ti available, since we are seeing 6-pin photos I would guess that is the reference design. 1050 looks to be no-pin by default.

Also...

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 SE / GTX 1040 In The Works Too?
If you were thinking that GP107 GPU would only be featured on two cards, there’s a good possibility that you would be wrong. It turns out that Chinese leakers are expecting a third GP107 variant known as either the GTX 1050 SE or GTX 1040 to hit the market relatively soon. There’s no tentative release date but the card is said to feature 512 CUDA cores, a 128-bit memory interface with 2 GB memory and a price of $99 US. This card will have very low power requirements and the price range could be even lower considering the cut down iteration of the core.

And here guys... the TRUE competitor of the RX 460. And to make it better seems that they are fanless too!

And then...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-refresh-gddr5x-volta-gddr6/

Pascal refresh comming up? Volta NOT using HBM2 except maybe the flagship...

 

[tviceman]

That Pascal refresh rumor was posted in the Pascal thread. And Volta doesn't need to use HBM2 on consumer graphics cards. When G5X or GDR6 vram hits >12ghz, and it will, a ~12 ghz 256-bit bus will have a bandwidth of 384 gb/s, a 14ghz 256-bit bus will have 448 gb/s. 384-bit interfaces will have 576 gb/s bandwidth with 12ghz vram and 672 gb/s with 14ghz vram. Plenty of tank left in the system for traditional vram memories. The only major downfall is the higher power usage vs. HBM / HBM2.

 

[nvgpu]

That card is not the reference design from Nvidia, it's a partner card supposedly from Colorful that goes nuts adding PCIe power connector when it's not needed for a 75W or lower GPU and don't understand why people want cards that are small and compact.

The Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti reference design will be similar to the GTX 750 Ti, small and compact.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/images/front.jpg

 

[dark zero]

That card is not the reference design from Nvidia, it's a partner card supposedly from Colorful that goes nuts adding PCIe power connector when it's not needed for a 75W or lower GPU and don't understand why people want cards that are small and compact.

The Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti reference design will be similar to the GTX 750 Ti, small and compact.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/images/front.jpg

But still... Not fanless. Maybe the GT1040/1050SE is the true fanless.

 

[happy medium]

But still... Not fanless. Maybe the GT1040/1050SE is the true fanless.

they will have at least vanilla 1050's with no power connector's.
The 1050se will be about 50 watts.
regular 1050's about 60 watts,and 1050ti's could be 75 watts just like gtx950's. Same specs just higher clocks for the 1050ti. Remember they are built on the 16nm process .

 

[AtenRa]

Remember they are built on the 16nm process .

Rumors pointing to Samsung 14nm LPP

 

[tviceman]

Rumors pointing to Samsung 14nm LPP

I doubt those rumors have any weight. Given Nvidia hasn't worked with anyone besides TSMC since the war of 1812, given that every other Pascal chip has been built on the same manufacturing node, given that Nvidia's announced Xavier is 16nm FF (aka TSMC), given that the rumors 3-4 years ago of Nvidia using Samsung never came to fruition, all signs point to TSMC. With Apple's demand easing now that the iphone 7 is out and isn't selling as well as previous iPhones, and given that TSMC is likely to continue ramping up 16nm FF, it's a safe bet that GP107 is 16nmFF.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I doubt those rumors have any weight. Given Nvidia hasn't worked with anyone besides TSMC since the war of 1812, given that every other Pascal chip has been built on the same manufacturing node, given that Nvidia's announced Xavier is 16nm FF (aka TSMC), given that the rumors 3-4 years ago of Nvidia using Samsung never came to fruition, all signs point to TSMC. With Apple's demand easing now that the iphone 7 is out and isn't selling as well as previous iPhones, and given that TSMC is likely to continue ramping up 16nm FF, it's a safe bet that GP107 is 16nmFF.

I don't think it's a safe bet at all. Samsung is reeling from the (continued) losses of major customers. Latest rumors now point to Qualcomm tapping TSMC for some 10nm production (previous expectations were that Qualcomm was all-in on Samsung at 14/16 and 10). I'm sure they're willing to give NVIDIA a great price on wafers for more cost sensitive GPU wafers.

That being said, even if NVIDIA uses Samsung for some Pascal production (maybe GP107, though GP108 is a safer bet), it'll probably be short lived as TSMC races right past Samsung to get 7nm into production.

 

[tviceman]

I don't think it's a safe bet at all. Samsung is reeling from the (continued) losses of major customers. Latest rumors now point to Qualcomm tapping TSMC for some 10nm production (previous expectations were that Qualcomm was all-in on Samsung at 14/16 and 10). I'm sure they're willing to give NVIDIA a great price on wafers for more cost sensitive GPU wafers.

That being said, even if NVIDIA uses Samsung for some Pascal production (maybe GP107, though GP108 is a safer bet), it'll probably be short lived as TSMC races right past Samsung to get 7nm into production.

We'll see, but the cost to port 1 chip, and one that generally commands a smaller margin at that, over to an entirely different manufacturing process significantly raises the fixed costs of R&D. It just doesn't make sense unless there simply no way TSMC can supply the volume Nvidia requires, and even then the revenue & profit difference moving to Samsung as opposed to staying with TSMC has to outweigh the costs to port a single chip. I do remember there was a rumor that said Samsung is dumping Mali or whoever they use for graphics right now in their exynos chips and possibly moving to Nvidia IP. If that's the case, I'm sure Nvidia will fall all over themselves to do whatever it would take for that kind of opportunity.

Personally, I think GP107 on Samsung would be fantastic as it would provide a closer apples-to-apples comparisons of GCN vs. Pascal between Polaris 11 and GP107. I know GloFo isn't a perfect clone of Samsung, but they're much closer in manufacturing similarities than with TSMC.

 

[Sweepr]

Geforce GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti Listed @ Ukraine

MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming X 4096MB (GTX 1050 TI GAMING X 4G)
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming 4096MB (GTX 1050 TI GAMING 4G)
Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1050 Ti STRIX 4096MB (STRIX-GTX1050Ti-4G-GAMING)
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Gaming 2048MB (GTX 1050 GAMING 2G)
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Mini ITX OC 2048MB (GV-N1050IXOC-2GD)
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 G1 Gaming 2048MB (GV-N1050G1-GAMING-2GD)
Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1050 STRIX 2048MB (STRIX-GTX1050-2G-GAMING)

http://telemart.ua/videocard/filter/geforce-gtx-1050

 

[nathanddrews]

GV-N1050IXOC-2GD

Mini ITX, you say? Go on.

If low-profile and single slot (passive or fan, don't care), it might be the best HTPC card ever made.

 

[antihelten]

With the new min-spec having been announced for the Oculus rift (GTX 960 or greater), I wonder if the 1050 Ti could end up being the perfect budget VR card?

That could be a pretty decent selling point for Nvidia.

 

[mohit9206]

With the new min-spec having been announced for the Oculus rift (GTX 960 or greater), I wonder if the 1050 Ti could end up being the perfect budget VR card?

That could be a pretty decent selling point for Nvidia.

Nobody who can afford VR will get 1050Ti anyway.So realistically GTX 1060 6GB is still the entry point.
So from what we know 1050 2GB is just a Pascal 750Ti for $130(120 pounds) which will compete with rx460 4gb and lose in dx12 games.
And 1050Ti is Pascal 960 4GB for $170(150 pounds) beating rx460 at everything but losing to rx470 at everything.

 

[mohit9206]

Double post sorry.

 

[mohit9206]

Duplicate post.

 

[antihelten]

Nobody who can afford VR will get 1050Ti anyway.So realistically GTX 1060 6GB is still the entry point.
So from what we know 1050 2GB is just a Pascal 750Ti for $130(120 pounds) which will compete with rx460 4gb and lose in dx12 games.
And 1050Ti is Pascal 960 4GB for $170(150 pounds) beating rx460 at everything but losing to rx470 at everything.

I wouldn't be so certain.

As part of dropping the required specs for VR, Oculus also announced a new range of prebuilt desktops selling for $499. These machines (from Cyberpower PC) currently uses an RX 470, but exchanging that for the 1050 Ti could potentially cut off $50 or so from the price or about 10%, which is a big enough saving to matter IMHO. Obviously the performance would suffer a bit, but it would still stay within min spec for VR.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Oculus announcement didn't change the VR requirement by games etc.1060 is just enough for that, and the RX 480 usually fails flat. And now a slower 1050/1050TI or 470 card will do the trick? I think not.

 

[Sweepr]

BTW this is how the leaked score would fit in Guru3D's chart:

 

[mohit9206]

17% faster than 960,10% faster than 380X and just 10% shy of 290? That seems very optimistic but is quite within the realms of possibility.

 

[antihelten]

Oculus announcement didn't change the VR requirement by games etc.1060 is just enough for that, and the RX 480 usually fails flat. And now a slower 1050/1050TI or 470 card will do the trick? I think not.

Oculus announcement did very much change the VR requirement for games. It's all down to ASW or Asynchronous Space Warp.

Basically ASW allows you to get by with only half the GPU performance, since you only need to run the game at 45 FPS instead of 90 FPS, and then ASW will extrapolate additional frames to deliver a final framerate of 90 FPS. Of course this is not as good as true 90 FPS, but based on reports so far it appears to be more than good enough to deliver a compelling experience, and many people now prefer to run games with ASW and high settings instead of no ASW and lower settings (1, 2, 3).

Also ASW is compatible with all games (at least in theory, it is currently not completely finalized, so there is still some issues here and there).

More info on ASW.

 

[dark zero]

17% faster than 960,10% faster than 380X and just 10% shy of 290? That seems very optimistic but is quite within the realms of possibility.

It must be a perfect OCed edition.