Geforce GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti Thread

[maddie]

Answer is pretty obvious, you shouldn't have asked that ^.

Well I didn't accuse him of anything, but I am confused.

I would think asking for clarification is very polite.

 

[maddie]

Well I didn't accuse him of anything, but I am confused.

I would think asking for clarification is very polite.

Politely asking a member for clarification is a call out?

 

[kraatus77]

^ It is, but not for all, if you know what i mean.

Yea, it is called a member call out and is against the rules of this forum. If one has a problem with a particular poster, they are certainly free to report them and let the mods sort it out.

Ehh, it's broken and doesn't work.

but honestly some people have very little understanding of what is a callout , attack or correcting/asking someone. there was a nice investigation by a guy 2-3 years ago about this issue. unfortunately nothing positive comes out from it.

 

[DidelisDiskas]

As soon as the thread gets interesting and has some new information, it always turns into a kindergarten. Everyone wants to protect their toy brands. I like this forum, but reading 100 pages of useless back and forth, to get to the interesting bits, gets a bit tiring.

I mean, am i in the wrong here, is this how tech is discussed everywhere?

 

[esquared]

As soon as the thread gets interesting and has some new information, it always turns into a kindergarten. Everyone wants to protect their toy brands. I like this forum, but reading 100 pages of useless back and forth, to get to the interesting bits, gets a bit tiring.

I mean, am i in the wrong here, is this how tech is discussed everywhere?

See folks, this member gets it.

I am going to go back to the early summer announcement and remove any disruptive members from VC&G who are constantly derailing threads with this nonsense.

Vacations have been issued in this thread and the next time will be removal from VC&G for 30 days or more.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[tviceman]

Geforce GTX 1050 Ti (Reference) - Ahead of GTX 960 in New Benchmarks

Let's start this Sunday with a new round of Geforce GTX 1050 Ti leaks:

25% faster than a GTX 960 in timespy? WTF that is good for this caliber chip vs. the RX 460.

 

[Arachnotronic]

25% faster than a GTX 960 in timespy? WTF that is good for this caliber chip vs. the RX 460.

I think the 1050 Ti will prove an excellent choice for budget gamers if it's really priced at $150. Solid perf/$ improvement over 960.

 

[tviceman]

I think the 1050 Ti will prove an excellent choice for budget gamers if it's really priced at $150. Solid perf/$ improvement over 960.

I don't actually think it'll end up being 25% faster than a GTX 960 in real-world games, more like 10-15% faster. Which is still impressive for this tiny little chip. If that proves true, it'll be 30+% faster than the RX 460 at the same TDP and similar die sizes, once again underscoring Nvidia's current technological advantage over AMD since Nvidia bifurcated their product line (removing HPC-specific transistors from consumer chips).

It makes me wonder if Nvidia purposefully neglected to implement the same hardware functionality for async, finding it more useful to focus on brute force. It's a question that may never be answered...not that it really matters.

 

[Azix]

25% faster than a GTX 960 in timespy? WTF that is good for this caliber chip vs. the RX 460.

460 is not $150 in most cases. many <$110, many <$120. $150 is a good place to be since there is no real competition there. At least not in terms of new cards. Its a shaky place though since a 380 or 380x is faster and a 470 could end up around there later.

I don't actually think it'll end up being 25% faster than a GTX 960 in real-world games, more like 10-15% faster. Which is still impressive for this tiny little chip. If that proves true, it'll be 30+% faster than the RX 460 at the same TDP and similar die sizes, once again underscoring Nvidia's current technological advantage over AMD since Nvidia bifurcated their product line (removing HPC-specific transistors from consumer chips).

It makes me wonder if Nvidia purposefully neglected to implement the same hardware functionality for async, finding it more useful to focus on brute force. It's a question that may never be answered...not that it really matters.

its not technological advantage to pile less functionality in the same space at the same TDP. But it gives good value for power conscious consumers in the price range. I think the 1050 should be more the competition for the rx 460. The 1050ti will have to deal with the 380 and 380x which use significantly more power, but also offer much more overall.

End of the day its for those who want to squeeze the most performance into the smallest possible power envelope. Anyone who doesn't care about that and is just looking at price/perf,should look somewhere else.

 

[raghu78]

The 1050 Ti 4GB will have no competition at USD 149 .1050 2GB at USD 119 is going to push the Rx 460 2GB to USD 99 as the 1050 is going to end up faster and also without a power connector. the Rx 460 4GB is going to find itself in a difficult spot as it will lose out to GTX 1050 2GB but have a larger 4GB framebuffer which would allow higher texture quality settings. Good to see Nvidia did not repeat the naming mistake of the 1060 3GB which had 10% lesser cuda cores but still retained the 1060 naming of the fully enabled GP106 GPU.

 

[ConsoleLover]

The 1050 Ti 4GB will have no competition at USD 149 .1050 2GB at USD 119 is going to push the Rx 460 2GB to USD 99 as the 1050 is going to end up faster and also without a power connector. the Rx 460 4GB is going to find itself in a difficult spot as it will lose out to GTX 1050 2GB but have a larger 4GB framebuffer which would allow higher texture quality settings. Good to see Nvidia did not repeat the naming mistake of the 1060 3GB which had 10% lesser cuda cores but still retained the 1060 naming of the fully enabled GP106 GPU.

Mistake? More like deliberate chikanery to confuse customers and scam them for their money, thinking they get the 1060 6GB performance, but in fact getting a lesser product. Seems the 970 lawsuit didn't teach them enough of a lesson, hoping a new one, much more money intensive lawsuit brings them to their senses. Have them pay out $100 for every fraudulent card sold, see how they like it and if they would try and scam customers again with fake and misleading advertising.

 

[VirtualLarry]

It makes me wonder if Nvidia purposefully neglected to implement the same hardware functionality for async, finding it more useful to focus on brute force. It's a question that may never be answered...not that it really matters.

I doubt it. My understanding is that lack of Async really hurts them in VR.

 

[frozentundra123456]

^ It is, but not for all, if you know what i mean.



Ehh, it's broken and doesn't work.

but honestly some people have very little understanding of what is a callout , attack or correcting/asking someone. there was a nice investigation by a guy 2-3 years ago about this issue. unfortunately nothing positive comes out from it.

Well, that is the only system that we have, unless one wants the forum to degenerate even further into nothing at all except personal attacks (direct or subtly disguised as a "polite" question) and name calling.

Mistake? More like deliberate chikanery to confuse customers and scam them for their money, thinking they get the 1060 6GB performance, but in fact getting a lesser product. Seems the 970 lawsuit didn't teach them enough of a lesson, hoping a new one, much more money intensive lawsuit brings them to their senses. Have them pay out $100 for every fraudulent card sold, see how they like it and if they would try and scam customers again with fake and misleading advertising.

It may be misleading to the uninformed consumer, but it certainly is not "fraudulent" as the 3gb card is clearly labeled as such. Not really analogous to the 970 situation at all.

 

[Azix]

It may be misleading to the uninformed consumer, but it certainly is not "fraudulent" as the 3gb card is clearly labeled as such. Not really analogous to the 970 situation at all.

its not the memory size that people are worried about. there are 8gb and 4gb 480s for example. But people assume the 480 is at least an actual 480 chip.

 

[dark zero]

Guys... I make you remember that the RX 470 is the true opponent of the 1050 and 1050 Ti...

The RX 460 is still not having any opponent.

 

[tviceman]

I doubt it. My understanding is that lack of Async really hurts them in VR.

Interesting, considering that every single VR benchmark shows Nvidia having clearly superior performance vs. equal tier counterparts from AMD.

 

[kraatus77]

^ because every those benchmark is selective and biased and performed by one reviewer like. it doesn't show whole picture.

i would suggest wait for more reviewers and then decide. because those [h] reviews doesn't match with what devs and actual users say. anyway that's off-topic so let's not go there.

 

[mohit9206]

If Nvidia prices 1050Ti 4GB at $150 then its certainly a good value and worth buying But if they price it at $160 or $170 then might as well pony up another $20 and get the RX470 4GB.Something tells me it will be $160 for single fan stock speed cards with factory overclocked dual fan models being $170.

 

[greatnoob]

Guys... I make you remember that the RX 470 is the true opponent of the 1050 and 1050 Ti...

The RX 460 is still not having any opponent.

Considering the RX 470 can be on par or faster than a 3gb 1060 and closer to an RX 480 (and in some games very close to a 6gb 1060) I seriously doubt the 1050 (Ti) could touch it..

 

[tviceman]

460 is not $150 in most cases. many <$110, many <$120. $150 is a good place to be since there is no real competition there. At least not in terms of new cards. Its a shaky place though since a 380 or 380x is faster and a 470 could end up around there later.

Cheapest RX 480 4gb I see is $129 before MIR ($115 after MIR), all others $130 and higher. So you're off on your pricing.

its not technological advantage to pile less functionality

Performance is an end result of functionality. AMD's async doesn't allow them to render anything Nvidia can't.

End of the day its for those who want to squeeze the most performance into the smallest possible power envelope.

Exactly. More performance at the same TDP with a similar or smaller die = technical advantage.

 

[AtenRa]

RX 460 4GB = $115 AR + $10 off with Promo Code = $105

+

23.6" FreeSync monitor = $159

Total = $274

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RX 470 4GB = $185

+

23.6" FreeSync monitor = $159

Total = $344

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Edit: Since the G-Sync Monitor is 144MHz,

RX 470 4GB = $185

+

24" FreeSync 144Hz monitor = $279

Total = $464

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GTX 1050Ti 4GB = $150

+

Cheapest G-Sync Monitor 24" = $340

Total = $490


And that assuming the GTX 1050Ti is only $150

 

[96Firebird]

Because everyone is looking to upgrade (or downgrade) their monitor.

 

[AtenRa]

For those that need a monitor or those that want to upgrade from an older/smaller monitor.

 

[tviceman]

For those that need a monitor or those that want to upgrade from an older/smaller monitor.

Monitors are off topic in this thread.

 

[AtenRa]

Monitors are off topic in this thread.

Monitors alone I will agree, this was dGPUs + Adaptive Sunc Monitors.