Geforce GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti Launch Thread ($109 / $139 - October 25th)

[John Carmack]

Actual comparisons at various power levels?

That's what I'd be waiting for.

Are those numbers we have seen from cards with power connectors rather than from cards limited to 75W?

I don't expect the 1050 Ti @ 1500MHz with half the cores of the 1060 6GB to run at half the power of the one as shown in that power limited test.

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't expect the 1050 Ti @ 1500MHz with half the cores of the 1060 6GB to run at half the power of the one as shown in that power limited test.

I don't see the point. There will be dozens of reviews in a few days. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Or something.

 

[grant2]

I tend to disagree. Not because of the argument that rs presented that buying a new ps will give far better perf per dollar because often thats not a viable solution but plain and simply becaue the difference to 750ti is to small unless you need the features like hdmi 2.0b.
Upgrading from integrated is like 500% as fast while this upgrade is 50%

The screenshot a few posts above you shows something like 80%-90% increase in performance from 750ti -> 1050ti.

"Worth it"?? an individual's decision. If the power consumption is the same, I'd upgrade to a 1050ti instantly.

 

[Det0x]

Read the full article here: http://videocardz.com/63918/amd-to-launch-radeon-rx-470-with-1792-stream-processors

Videocardz says:

"AMD is about to release a new graphics card from Radeon RX 470 series. As you will learn from this posts, there is not enough concrete information to make any final judgments. One thing is clear though, something is coming, and it’s close...

This means RX 470D should have no problem competing against GTX 1050 Ti.

...So we have three sources clearly suggesting that something is coming.

Radeon RX 470D/SE is likely a new model that will fill the gap between RX 470 and RX 460, which as you know is quite big. So I’m guessing this card will probably compete with GeForce GTX 1050 Ti performance and price wise, while RX 460 will have to fight against GTX 1050.

According to PCOnline, we should expect Radeon RX 470D/SE few days after GTX 1050 becomes available, so probably early November. Of course, we will keep you informed if we learn more."





This is a `1050 launch thread not a radeon 470 thread. If you want to talk 470, start an thread.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[antihelten]

This means RX 470D should have no problem competing against GTX 1050 Ti.

With those speaks this would certainly appear to be true. However I would suspect that the GTX 1050 Ti would still retain the crown as fastest GPU without a PCIe power connector.

All in all though this seems like a good move from AMD, as the gap between the RX 460 and the RX 470 was really way too big. It's honestly still too big even with this GPU, but if they release a full enabled Polaris 11 GPU as well (which would mainly compete with GTX 1050), then they should pretty much be there.

 

[Sweepr]

So they are using a cut down 232mm² P10 to compete with 135mm² GP107, and it still needs a PCIe power connector. Good luck chasing Pascal in mobile.

 

[nvgpu]

The same losing strategy when faced with the GTX 750 Ti, cutdown 212mm² GPU to compete against super power efficient card, nothing new there.

 

[esquared]

Keep this thread on topic folks or I will lock it.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[happy medium]

The Evga videocardz article states that the 1050ti is 26% faster than a gtx950 and the 1050 is 16% faster than a gtx950.

"Small Size, Big Performance
The EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti and 1050 may look small, but they offer big performance. In fact the EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti is about 26% faster than a GTX 950, and the GeForce GTX 1050 is about 16% faster."

http://videocardz.com/63898/evga-launches-ten-geforce-gtx-1050-graphics-cards

That would put a 1050ti about 10% faster than a gtx960 or about 380x territory.

 

[MajinCry]

The 470 is, what, twice as fast as the 7850, whilst having way more VRAM and uses less power. Bloody thing costs £200, though.

If we get a cheaper model that's not quite as fast, but still has 8GBs of VRAM, the broke-ass me will be mighty tempted.






Last warning folks. This is not a 470 thread.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[whm1974]

The screenshot a few posts above you shows something like 80%-90% increase in performance from 750ti -> 1050ti.

"Worth it"?? an individual's decision. If the power consumption is the same, I'd upgrade to a 1050ti instantly.

Considering you would be getting almost double the performance and double the memory, so would I if was was using an 750 Ti.

 

[R0H1T]

Considering you would be getting almost double the performance and double the memory, so would I if was was using an 750 Ti.

Not sure where people are getting the double the 750Ti performance numbers from

Meanwhile it’s also noteworthy that NVIDIA’s own marketing materials call for GTX 1050 to have a 3x performance increase over GTX 650, and only a bit over 50% increase over GTX 750 Ti.

NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 1050 Ti & GTX 1050: Entry-Level Cards Launching October 25th

 

[IllogicalGlory]

Not sure where people are getting the double the 750Ti performance numbers from

NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX 1050 Ti & GTX 1050: Entry-Level Cards Launching October 25th

They mean the GTX 1050 Ti not 1050, which is what's on that slide. Still, it won't be quite that fast. More like 1.75x.

 

[R0H1T]

They mean the GTX 1050 Ti not 1050, which is what's on that slide. Still, it won't be quite that fast. More like 1.75x.

Yeah my guesstimate would be 70~80% over 750Ti although it'd consume 25% more power, based on the TDP. I'm also wondering why the TDP of 1050 wasn't set lower i.e. closer to 60W like the 750Ti.

 

[frozentundra123456]

These cards, especially the 1050Ti nicely fill the gap between the 460 and 470/480/1060. I just hope the efficiency and frequency range of the other Pascal cards is not compromised by being on the Samsung 14nm process instead of TSMC 16nm. At 139.00 the 1050Ti would seem like a very attractive entry level 1080p gaming card.

 

[mohit9206]

Prices in my country already announced by Zotac. 1050 2gb single fan model will cost $150, 1050Ti 4GB single fan model will cost $185 and the dual fan overclock model will be $205.
For reference RX460 2GB is $140 and 4GB is $180 while RX470 4GB is $250.

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/109253/en-us

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/109250/en-us

Nvidia GeForce 375.63 WHQL driver, first driver with GTX 1050 Ti & GTX 1050 support.

 

[Det0x]

Some 1050 TI benchmark scores

 

[escrow4]

I tend to disagree. Not because of the argument that rs presented that buying a new ps will give far better perf per dollar because often thats not a viable solution but plain and simply becaue the difference to 750ti is to small unless you need the features like hdmi 2.0b.
Upgrading from integrated is like 500% as fast while this upgrade is 50%. For a usage model like this in theese machines its noth worth it as it will be the same gaming opportunity at 1080 at somewhat reduced settings. Better wait a year or two and get a new machine this time with a proper ps to use the gfx a level up !

The old 750 doesn't support the new codecs. This card alone is worth it for proper HEVC and VP9 decoding support. Especially old arse PCs with a dusty older GPU or iGPU.

 

[cbn]

Based on the following info, maybe AMD will also make a lower voltage lower clock P10 without power connector.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/new-zen-microarchitecture-details.2465645/page-93#post-38366723

That's based on driver / bios EVV model data, the same code which calculates the correct default voltage for the ASIC, based on leakage.

Those value represent default voltage vs. frequency of a ASIC with medium leakage characteristic.

Shows pretty clearly the point where it starts going south. Ideally Ellesmere (Polaris 10) would not operate faster than ~1000MHz. I'd expect this was the frequency range originally (prior Pascal release) planned.

 

[happy medium]

Based on the following info, maybe AMD will also make a lower voltage lower clock P10 without power connector.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/new-zen-microarchitecture-details.2465645/page-93#post-38366723

I think you posted in the wrong thread.

 

[cbn]

I think you posted in the wrong thread.

I'm sorry, you are right. I meant to post in the "what will AMD's response to GTX 1050 Ti and GTX 1050 thread"

 

[dark zero]

Still... the 460 is the budget card (and lowest tier one)... and the 1050 is competing against the 470.

Seems that nVIDIA should release the 1040. The 1050 is a good card, but I can't see being the perfect budget card for the LATAM or Asia.

Still, both options are marginally better than the iGPUs.

 

[happy medium]

Still... the 460 is the budget card (and lowest tier one)... and the 1050 is competing against the 470.

Seems that nVIDIA should release the 1040. The 1050 is a good card, but I can't see being the perfect budget card for the LATAM or Asia.

Still, both options are marginally better than the iGPUs.

the 1050ti will be competing with itself. It fills the giant performance hole between the 460 and 470 also

rx 460 $100, gtx1050 $115, gtx1050ti $150, rx 470/gtx1060 3gb ~ $205
.

 

[frozentundra123456]

the 1050ti will be competing with itself. It fills the giant performance hole between the 460 and 470 also

rx 460 $100, gtx1050 $115, gtx1050ti $150, rx 470/gtx1060 3gb ~ $205
.

Yea, it fills the gap nicely, but needs to be cheaper than 150.00 since you can already get a 470 for 185.00 after rebate and a 1060 3gb for 200.00.