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Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
Ok, so now I guess we get to ask ourvelves this, is it going to be better or worse than the 5600 series?
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thats easy. worse 🙂 with the way ATI and Nvidia are naming their cards nowadays, im suprised they didnt name it the
FX 8800 or something to trick retarded suckers into buying it.
 
Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
Ok, so now I guess we get to ask ourvelves this, is it going to be better or worse than the 5600 series?
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Keep in mind, this video card is supposed to be a "new generation" with the introduction of nV40. The FX5600 is a mainstream card that still costs +$100 and was replaced by a much faster (and more expensive) FX5700.

Core modifications of the FX5500 will resemble that of nV40 in a general standpoint. What I mean is:

FX5200 -> FX5500 -> possible future lost-cost solutions
FX5600 -> FX5700 -> mainstream nv40 series (nv43?? i forgot)
FX5800 -> FX5900 -> nV40
 
I still don't understand why they are going to market the FX 5500. Nobody has mentioned the existence of the FX 5600 in this thread. Seems to me that the FX 5600 (non-ultra) is already a sub-$100 video card. So why go through the time and trouble to introduce another sub-$100 card to the public.

Also, with the impending release of NV's new generation of GPUs, the price of their existing line of graphics cards are going to drop anyway.

So I ask again, why????
 
Originally posted by: Rockhound1
I still don't understand why they are going to market the FX 5500. Nobody has mentioned the existence of the FX 5600 in this thread. Seems to me that the FX 5600 (non-ultra) is already a sub-$100 video card. So why go through the time and trouble to introduce another sub-$100 card to the public.

Also, with the impending release of NV's new generation of GPUs, the price of their existing line of graphics cards are going to drop anyway.

So I ask again, why????
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5600 still seems above 100

FX5500 is ment to be significantly below $100
Also, FX5600 was replaced by the FX5700 and that led to the huge price drop
 
I stand corrected regarding the current price of the FX 5600. But it wasn't long ago that you could pick up one of these for less than $100.

I think there is a huge difference between the performance FX 5600 line of graphics cards and the FX 5700 line of cards. Maybe they should just keep the FX 5600 line and have it replace its FX 5200 line?

What price range are they targeting for the FX 5500 line of cards? Less than $70?
 
If they made the 5500 for under 100 bucks, it sounds like it would be a very good buy, but what about the 5200 series? nVidia has just dug themselves into a hole here, they release all these new GPUS too quickly. 5100go,5200, 5200go, 5200u, 5500 (pending), 5600, 5600go, 5600u, 5700, 5700go, 5700u, 5800, 5800u, 5900se, 5900, 5900u, 5950u, ALL THESE CARDS IN LESS THAN A YEAR!!! Ati has released the 9600 and 9800 series since last year, and stuck with them, that says something about ATI, they have played their cards a lot more wisely than nVidia. Not that i'm a huge ATI fan, but the facts are hard to miss. Oh well, we'll see how this "5500" goes.
 
Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
If they made the 5500 for under 100 bucks, it sounds like it would be a very good buy, but what about the 5200 series? nVidia has just dug themselves into a hole here, they release all these new GPUS too quickly. 5100go,5200, 5200go, 5200u, 5500 (pending), 5600, 5600go, 5600u, 5700, 5700go, 5700u, 5800, 5800u, 5900se, 5900, 5900u, 5950u, ALL THESE CARDS IN LESS THAN A YEAR!!! Ati has released the 9600 and 9800 series since last year, and stuck with them, that says something about ATI, they have played their cards a lot more wisely than nVidia. Not that i'm a huge ATI fan, but the facts are hard to miss. Oh well, we'll see how this "5500" goes.
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<<squeezes out a big hairy turd on the 5500>>
 
No, pre-built computers at local stores don't give you much of a choice in selection video cards. On the note on bandwidth, if the "benchmarks" state it's as much as twice as fast as the 9600se, doesn't that sort of rule out the 64bit possibility? If it is still 64bit, it must be pretty amazing.
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Let's look at the games:-

The only game which is twice as fast on the fx5500 is a "flight sim", notice how 4xaa 8xaf is enabled which makes me very suspicous about the result. Quake 3 based games always do perform well with nvidia hardware, the benchmark to watch is ut2003 and notice there is virtually no difference between the fx5500 and r9600se.

Either the fx5500 used by them is 64bit or is a very slow 128bit video card?
 
Originally posted by: nemesismk2
No, pre-built computers at local stores don't give you much of a choice in selection video cards. On the note on bandwidth, if the "benchmarks" state it's as much as twice as fast as the 9600se, doesn't that sort of rule out the 64bit possibility? If it is still 64bit, it must be pretty amazing.
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Let's look at the games:-

The only game which is twice as fast on the fx5500 is a "flight sim", notice how 4xaa 8xaf is enabled which makes me very suspicous about the result. Quake 3 based games always do perform well with nvidia hardware, the benchmark to watch is ut2003 and notice there is virtually no difference between the fx5500 and r9600se.

Either the fx5500 used by them is 64bit or is a very slow 128bit video card?
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It's 128bit
 
5200-5600-5800 ==> 5500-5700-5900. It's probably a name thing.

I'd wonder why nV would bother with a new NV31 card, but they just released a new GF4MX (4000)....

I'm fairly sure a $99 9600 would be a better buy than a $99 5500, but we'll see when we have real benchmarks, no AA+AF numbers comparing the 5500 to a card with a 64-bit memory bus.
 
Originally posted by: Pete
5200-5600-5800 ==> 5500-5700-5900. It's probably a name thing.

I'd wonder why nV would bother with a new NV31 card, but they just released a new GF4MX (4000)....

I'm fairly sure a $99 9600 would be a better buy than a $99 5500, but we'll see when we have real benchmarks, no AA+AF numbers comparing the 5500 to a card with a 64-bit memory bus.
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I would hope the FX5500 would be in the $70 range so it can fully replace the FX5200
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: stardust
Originally posted by: nick1985

so basically your agreeing that the 5500 is for ignorant people who dont research their video card. in which case, i agree. the 5500 is an "upgrade" from the normal dog pooh they would be recieving which we call the 5200.

:beer:'s for the ignorant people getting this "upgrade"
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No, pre-built computers at local stores don't give you much of a choice in selection video cards. On the note on bandwidth, if the "benchmarks" state it's as much as twice as fast as the 9600se, doesn't that sort of rule out the 64bit possibility? If it is still 64bit, it must be pretty amazing.
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people buying pre-built rip-off computers at local stores fall into my personall "ignorant" category. but thats justs me, and people have different opinions 😉:beer:
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most ignorant people will be getting integrated video, i'm thinking.
 
nick, you've turned into a COMPLETE TROLL. All you do on these forums anymore is flame people and talk about 1. how you love VIAN, 2. a ti4200. You post meaningless posts that nobody cards to read, and now the role of VIAN has switched to you, you TROLL.
 
5100go,5200, 5200go, 5200u, 5500 (pending), 5600, 5600go, 5600u, 5700, 5700go, 5700u, 5800, 5800u, 5900se, 5900, 5900u, 5950u, ALL THESE CARDS IN LESS THAN A YEAR!!! Ati has released the 9600 and 9800 series since last year, and stuck with them
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9600SE, 9600, 9600Pro, 9600XT, 9800SE, 9800, 9800Pro, 9800XT not to mention their mobile parts(excluding the real high end boards from both companies of course). ATi not releasing a budget specific line DX9 part really shouldn't be considered a good thing, it is certainly a missing weapon in their arsenal. For nV you have their late parts(52, 56, 58) and then you have their on time parts(55, 57, 59) not all that different from ATi(except on the low end) although they don't do as many different versions per model number as ATi does normally.
 
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