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GeForce 8800GT Best Prices / In-Stock Listing

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Its simple supply and demand, folks. Unfortunately, my Sapphire X1950 pro is slowly biting the dust and I'll need to get in the market soon, too. Not likely to get any satisfaction from Sapphire customer service on their 2 year warranty (card is only a year old), that's for sure.

Cheers,
HeavyB
 
I don't know what most people feel these prices should be, but all of these cards are coming through distribution over $250. EVGA's cards are at MSRP on their website when they are in stock. Newegg and most stores have only added $10 to $20 over that, and why wouldn't they? Why not make $20-25 on a part instead of $9 while you can.

Now, that MSI OC card has a disty price of about $231, so MSRP should be around $240-250. It was for awhile but now sites have brought it up to $300. That's gouging! Tiger Direct seems to be a little higher than most on everything. But Outpost's EVGA's basic GT at $269 is MSRP, as is the XFX card at $279 that comes through distribution at $270.

If anyone wants to blame high prices on someone, talk to the mfg and ask why MSI can sell their overclocked model for $250.
 
Originally posted by: Wiseguy69
I don't know what most people feel these prices should be, but all of these cards are coming through distribution over $250. EVGA's cards are at MSRP on their website when they are in stock. Newegg and most stores have only added $10 to $20 over that, and why wouldn't they? Why not make $20-25 on a part instead of $9 while you can.

Now, that MSI OC card has a disty price of about $231, so MSRP should be around $240-250. It was for awhile but now sites have brought it up to $300. That's gouging! Tiger Direct seems to be a little higher than most on everything. But Outpost's EVGA's basic GT at $269 is MSRP, as is the XFX card at $279 that comes through distribution at $270.

If anyone wants to blame high prices on someone, talk to the mfg and ask why MSI can sell their overclocked model for $250.
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The initial review of the 8800GT on Anandtech mentioned that the price for the card should be BETWEEN $200-$250 US dollars. Keep in mind, this is quoted directly from nVidia. Anandtech themselves didn't believe them either, hence the quote:

"Initially, we thought that the 256MB parts would be $200 and the 512MB parts $250. It turns out that we were mistaken.

Not only that, but we can expect the stock clocked 512MB 8800 GT to hit $200 at the low end. The 256MB part, which won't show up until the end of November, will hit prices below $200. Upon hearing Ujesh Desai, NVIDIA's General Manager of Desktop GPUs, explain this incredible projection, my internal monologue was somehow rerouted to my mouth and I happened to exclaim (with all too much enthusiasm) "you're crazy!"
 
Originally posted by: edge929
Originally posted by: Wiseguy69
I don't know what most people feel these prices should be, but all of these cards are coming through distribution over $250. EVGA's cards are at MSRP on their website when they are in stock. Newegg and most stores have only added $10 to $20 over that, and why wouldn't they? Why not make $20-25 on a part instead of $9 while you can.

Now, that MSI OC card has a disty price of about $231, so MSRP should be around $240-250. It was for awhile but now sites have brought it up to $300. That's gouging! Tiger Direct seems to be a little higher than most on everything. But Outpost's EVGA's basic GT at $269 is MSRP, as is the XFX card at $279 that comes through distribution at $270.

If anyone wants to blame high prices on someone, talk to the mfg and ask why MSI can sell their overclocked model for $250.
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The initial review of the 8800GT on Anandtech mentioned that the price for the card should be BETWEEN $200-$250 US dollars. Keep in mind, this is quoted directly from nVidia. Anandtech themselves didn't believe them either, hence the quote:

"Initially, we thought that the 256MB parts would be $200 and the 512MB parts $250. It turns out that we were mistaken.

Not only that, but we can expect the stock clocked 512MB 8800 GT to hit $200 at the low end. The 256MB part, which won't show up until the end of November, will hit prices below $200. Upon hearing Ujesh Desai, NVIDIA's General Manager of Desktop GPUs, explain this incredible projection, my internal monologue was somehow rerouted to my mouth and I happened to exclaim (with all too much enthusiasm) "you're crazy!"
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Right, but its not the individual websites upping the price, its happening before they get the cards. Either by the distributors or the mfg's. Moreover, the Inquirer reported a few weeks ago a rumor that the initial batch of cards was scrapped. That maybe the cause of the increases. Either way, no doubt after demand dies down, prices will drop throughout the chain.
 
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Why was the initial batch scrapped? Did they get too hot?
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Yeah, heat was the main issue from the forums/articles that I've read. I think the number being thrown around is ~56,000 cards but don't quote me on that. It's been linked to a fan speed issue mainly (some are reporting bad memory probably due to overheating). The fan apparently is staying at 29% speed no matter what the temperature is. This is easily solved with a third-party program such as Rivatuner. You can manually set the fan speeds at different temps with it which override any other BIOS/OS settings.
 

I'm fine with using Rivatuner, but I hope that the MSI 8800 GT I ordered from Dell has an improved BIOS because my wife has a profile on my computer too and she wouldn't know to use Rivatuner. Hopefully there's a way to set up Rivatuner so that it opens automatically and automatically applies fan speed settings whenever someone logs on.
 
Originally posted by: Wiseguy69
I don't know what most people feel these prices should be, but all of these cards are coming through distribution over $250. EVGA's cards are at MSRP on their website when they are in stock. Newegg and most stores have only added $10 to $20 over that, and why wouldn't they? Why not make $20-25 on a part instead of $9 while you can.

Now, that MSI OC card has a disty price of about $231, so MSRP should be around $240-250. It was for awhile but now sites have brought it up to $300. That's gouging! Tiger Direct seems to be a little higher than most on everything. But Outpost's EVGA's basic GT at $269 is MSRP, as is the XFX card at $279 that comes through distribution at $270.

If anyone wants to blame high prices on someone, talk to the mfg and ask why MSI can sell their overclocked model for $250.
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The distribution price on the cards are no where near $250 (especially when nvidia announced msrp between 200-250.)

If you believe that distribution price is ~250 and websites are selling them at ~260-280, then you obviously have no idea on how retail industry works in the US. No RETAIL business can survive with a petty 10% margin (and then pay out their expenses and survive)

The MSRPs and distribution (qtys. of 1000) etc. prices that companies declare are only for the consumer market so that the consumer thinks that they are getting a good deal. There are Huge kickbacks from the manufacturers to the distributors and from distributors to the retailers. Just like the car industry, in most cases, a common person will never actually know what is the cost to the distributor and to the retailer. (the numbers that you see are just there to fool the consumer).
 
Originally posted by: tjaisv
8800GT prices should drop in January, right? I think i'll just wait until then.
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Prices will drop when demand drops. If I had to take a guess, I'd say it will die down after Xmas but we won't see $200 512MB stock versions until February-March. On the upside, I have noticed that the cards have been staying in stock longer now. Newegg, Frys, and a few other places had stock on Friday and some still have cards in stock as I type this (I know because I constantly check everywhere once every few hours).

 
The distribution price on the cards are no where near $250 (especially when nvidia announced msrp between 200-250.)

If you believe that distribution price is ~250 and websites are selling them at ~260-280, then you obviously have no idea on how retail industry works in the US. No RETAIL business can survive with a petty 10% margin (and then pay out their expenses and survive)

The MSRPs and distribution (qtys. of 1000) etc. prices that companies declare are only for the consumer market so that the consumer thinks that they are getting a good deal. There are Huge kickbacks from the manufacturers to the distributors and from distributors to the retailers. Just like the car industry, in most cases, a common person will never actually know what is the cost to the distributor and to the retailer. (the numbers that you see are just there to fool the consumer).
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Are you in the retail electronics business? You sound like you're speaking from a position of wisdom. If you think stores are making MORE than 10% on anything other than accessories like USB cables then you have no idea how the US retail market works. It has been mentioned in many articles on the internet, in magazines, and newspapers about how electronics retailers have razor thin margins and that PC's and components have become commodities. Why do you think so many PC's come with so much "trial" software? They need to make money any way they can. The Geek Squad is Best Buy's PC moneymaker. The only overhead is manpower.

Electronics retail stores and your average clothing retailer are not even close to being the same animal. Clothing retailers spend 5 out of 7 days "on sale" because they have a gigantic markup and even on clearance sometimes turn a profit. When have you ever seen a major sale at any PC store for 30% off anything that wasn't a closeout item? Its not common because they would lose money no matter how much they drove up sales volume.

In most cases, if you want to know what disty proces are, go to newegg and subtract a few dollars. That's it. Every so often Newegg slips in a higher markup item, but its usually a low volume item. It's also why most small retailers buy from Newegg and not distribution. Especially when a disty adds 2-3% if a store has to buy on credit card and can't get terms. Margin gone. And those HUGE kickbacks? 1-8%. And only on floor days and other special times like trying to move old stock.

 
WiseGuy is right, there isnt a whole ton of markup in the retail electronics business. Most sale prices posted by companies like Best Buy and CC are at or below their cost and are usually designed just to get customers in the doors so they can spend money on accessories and services that actually have a bit of markup on them. That said I will tell you that the price hike we are experiencing with the 8800gts is mostly supply and demand driven. The MSRP for example of the card my BB store recieved in stock was $229, not being in the market for a card at the time i passed it off as an item we would have whenever i needed it. However, my quad core bundle came a bit earlier than i anticipated and now its stuck with my old 6600GT. The point is that if big box common retailers like BB can sale this card for below 250 on the daily basis and still make a buck then online vendors with lower overheads should be able to price this card well within that 200-250 price range Nvidia quoted us with.
 
Never thought Best Buy would be just as cheap but I picked mine up B&M a few weeks ago 279 + 12% of coupon so was around 250 otd.

As soon as another round of coupons and or sale hits Im gonna pick up another one for SLI.
 
Just got in contact with Dell Customer service regarding the MSI 8800gt video card and they said the order was canceled because they no longer carry it, so I assume everyone else that ordered one when it was around $207 has been canceled as well, unless someone else can verify they are still legit.
 
WOW, that's going to bring dell a sh*t storm if that's true. Not that I really care as I have no current need for a graphics card.

I will personally devote an hour to wrecking as much havoc with Dell as possible. Dell CS, FTC, and BBB here I come!
 
Originally posted by: slickvic000
Just got in contact with Dell Customer service regarding the MSI 8800gt video card and they said the order was canceled because they no longer carry it, so I assume everyone else that ordered one when it was around $207 has been canceled as well, unless someone else can verify they are still legit.
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That was nice of them to let you know before calling, wasn't it? :roll:

I've been reading from people that this is what Dell did to them on other occasions. Dell will sell a product they say will soon be available, then the item disappears from their site, then time goes by with no update, and it isn't until they finally contacted them that they find out the order has been cancelled because Dell no longer sells the product.

That's just awful. 🙁
 
Just confirmed it this morning, sure enough they put my order status to "changed".
Dell Purchase ID/ Order Number/ PO Number/ Order Description/ Order Date/ Estimated Ship Date/ Order Status/ Email Notification/

0000000000008 000000000 GeForce 8800GT 512 MB GDDR3 Graphics Card 11/27/2007 N/A Changed N/A

Here's hoping that they do not do this to anyone else or im sure they will be receiving hell from the masses.
 
My Dell order is still listed as In Production with etimated ship date of 12/10. I got in on 11/24 so maybe my order will be filled. 🙂
 
Talked to a Dell customer service guy who said my order should ship the 10th or possibly earlier. I am pretty sure I was one of the first to order, but I just dont know...
 
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