Gay Prop 8 protestors attack Christian Cross.
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You mean her god didn't pop out of the sky and save her? What kind of all powerful being is that?
Because a few protestors committing an act of vandalism, is equivalent to an entire state voting away a group's rights?
Round number, what percent of gay people commited this act?
bamacre
Lifer
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"But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline." - MLK Jr. from "I Have a Dream"
The woman knew she was provocative, and she succeeded. The bad news is, some of them lost their tempers. The good news is, no one was hurt. The only damage was to the woman's placard with the cross. 
Maybe, instead, they should invalidate her wedding and those of all of her friends and family. :Q
Maybe, instead, they should invalidate her wedding and those of all of her friends and family. :Q
umbrella39
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What exactly is the percentage threshold for violent/overly aggressive behavior? One could skim through these forums to find similar incidents that forum members try and use to portray Republicans, Democrats, etc, in a bad light. Guess it just depends which side you choose to defend or demonize.
"....entire state voting away a group's rights" - sounds like a case of Democracy to me.
Ns1
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If by democracy you mean the vocal majority eliminating the rights of the minority, then yes, I agree with you
The Future of Prop 8
I'm not beholden to any "side". When I see the utter stupidity of trying to demonize a whole group by the actions of a couple of people, I point it out. Show me a systemic pattern and we can have a real conversation.
Thankfully America is not a pure democracy. Preventing the "tyranny of the majority" was a major motivation to the designers of the constitution.
Lousy hypocrites. They should bend over and take it like a man, half of their voters do all the time
I'd agree with this to a point. Gay's aren't innately more tolerant than anyone else. I'm sure after a lifetime of being looked down upon, they skew more tolerant than average. However I find it hard to characterize wanting equal footing as wanting "power".
K1052
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Unfortunately that's an accurate statement, which is why the founders of this country went to great lengths to form a republic.
"From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction.A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions."
-James Madison, Federalist #10
How tolerant are they supposed to be when they're denied the same legal rights and privileges granted to other American citizens?
How tolerant would you be if it were your rights? :Q
There needs to be a name for these kinds of thread. You know, where one side pretends to be outraged by the other side's conduct.
It's just the standard rightwing modus operandi. Some while back, Vic characterized the whole thing as an addiction to outrage, to the feelings aroused.
And I really think it's true, that people are addicted to the chemical changes in their brains brought on by this sort of stuff, and will resort to some rather extreme means to get their fix.
Call it an exercise in smug self-righteous indignation...
It is getting close to repressed feelings by backing into them blindly and vicariously. We are impelled to feel what we feel and impelled to remain unconscious of them at the same time. It's another of those endless conundrum that resolve only in higher understanding.
sportage
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Hear about prop 8.5?
Due to the high divorce rate, straights will not be allowed to marry.
Oh, only gays can cast votes.
PS. Since WHEN is marriage connected to religion???
Marriage has to do with property rights between two.
Otherwise, there would be no such thing as marring
anywhere else than in a church in a religious ceremony.
Marriage = not religion. Just another BS connection fundies
try to shove down our throats.
Due to the high divorce rate, straights will not be allowed to marry.
Oh, only gays can cast votes.
PS. Since WHEN is marriage connected to religion???
Marriage has to do with property rights between two.
Otherwise, there would be no such thing as marring
anywhere else than in a church in a religious ceremony.
Marriage = not religion. Just another BS connection fundies
try to shove down our throats.
Mr. Lennon
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