Gay marriage and you (religious zealots)

[Rage187]

Want to keep going or do you get the point???

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980
Thing is though that gay marriage leads to MONOGOMY which means that if both partners don't have aids, they are both effectively immune to it forever whereas if they weren't allowed to marry, they could have many partners and the risk of infection would INCREASE by not being married.

Of course, you ignore lesbian partners who can't get aids through sex from each other and, even if they could, would be less likely to get it because of marriage.

A person doesn't need to be married to be monogomous.

No. But that's not the point. They were discussing banning gay marriage on the justification that it's dangerous and thus is for their own protection like being forced to wear your seatbelt.
Pay. Attention.

Do you really think you are going to get anywhere with your condescending attitude? Let me guess... you know everything and anyone who argues with you is an idiot? If you want to change this country, you're going to need people rallying behind you. To get those people, you're going to need to work on your attitude.

This thread has degenerated into nothing but a thinly veiled name calling contest. I'm done with it.

as you can see from the other thread, I'm perfectly capable of dealing with people in a reasonable manner. When I run into people as those in here some of whom can't follow the basic flow and idea of the conversation, it's very frustrating.
I'm not berating you because you disagree with me. I'm berating you because you don't seem to have any reading comprehension and jump into a conversation talking about something completely different.

 

[Brutuskend]

Just for the record. I have no desire to marry my cousin or any close family member.

I'm just trying to make a point.

Some laws may be wrong. And some laws may be antiquated. Some laws WILL change.

Give it time.

 

[Rage187]

Heres a brand new disease, congratulations on your communities accomplishments.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Want to keep going or do you get the point???

That article talks about a strain which is resistant to ANTIBIOTICS because of the excessive use of antibiotics!
It discusses its spead in Sanfrancisco because there is the problem of promiscuous unprotected sex there.
This can happen to straight people too.

So what you're talking about - I presume - is banning gay sex, period.

Because Gay marriage leads to monogamy which means that these problems would not happen.

Thus you should welcome it openly if this is truly your concern.

Sounds like you have a problem with promiscuity and unprotected sex to me.

 

[Rage187]

Sounds like you are eating crow.

I'd stop posting now, as it appears you do not know the facts of your own arguments.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Heres a brand new disease, congratulations on your communities accomplishments.

Slow slow down... it's my turn!

Yeah.. those AIDs ridden black people. What's going on. They're so.... um.. Black that now they foster AIDs.

I can play the statistics game too! A term you need to learn is causation.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Want to keep going or do you get the point???

Wow that one says that in gay men, over two years, the cases of Ghonnorea has trippled. I wonder if maybe there are any instances where in a short period of time instances of a certain disease has increased among straight couples?

What does this have to do with lesbians?

They're far less likely to transmit STDs. By your logic that gays are a threat because of the spread of STDs and thus should be protected from themselves, surely lesbians could say the same about straights and ban straight sex!

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Sounds like you are eating crow.

I'd stop posting now, as it appears you do not know the facts of your own arguments.

Apparently you didn't bother to read my or TuxDave's responses.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Rage187
Heres a brand new disease, congratulations on your communities accomplishments.

Slow slow down... it's my turn!

Yeah.. those AIDs ridden black people. What's going on. They're so.... um.. Black that now they foster AIDs.

I can play the statistics game too! A term you need to learn is causation.

OMG BAN BLACK MARRIAGES WHICH PRODUCE MONOGAMY! NO WAIT! THAT DOESN"T MAKE SENSE! BAN BLACK SEX ENTIRELY!

 

[Rage187]

Lesbian sex is generally considered low risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but research shows that HPV can be spread between women. Recent studies suggest that HPV is more common among lesbians than previously thought, and is as likely to affect lesbians who have never had sex with a man as those who have.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Lesbian sex is generally considered low risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but research shows that HPV can be spread between women. Recent studies suggest that HPV is more common among lesbians than previously thought, and is as likely to affect lesbians who have never had sex with a man as those who have.

Wow...your grasp on the ideas here is astonishing!

Here's how it's going:

you: Gay sex is higher risk than straigh sex - BAN IT
me: marriage is monogamy and reduces this.
me: straight sex is higher risk than lesbian sex - BAN IT (hyperbole)
you: but lesbians still do have some risk even though it is reduced therefore straight sex stays :disgust:

You don't see your double standard here?

I'm spell it out for you:
Gay sex being higher risk than straight sex is no more relevant than straigh sex being higher risk than lesbian sex.
Neither makes a case for banning that kind of sex and neither certainly makes a case for banning marriage which REDUCES the effects of that risk.

 

[Rage187]

Typing in all caps after getting called out on your own personal ignorance, does nothing but prove my point.


Once again, welcome to the United States of America. One nation under GOD; get used to it.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980

Originally posted by: Rage187

Lesbian sex is generally considered low risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but research shows that HPV can be spread between women. Recent studies suggest that HPV is more common among lesbians than previously thought, and is as likely to affect lesbians who have never had sex with a man as those who have.

Wow...your grasp on the ideas here is astonishing!

Here's how it's going:

you: Gay sex is higher risk than straigh sex - BAN IT
me: marriage is monogamy and reduces this.
me: straight sex is higher risk than lesbian sex - BAN IT (hyperbole)
you: but lesbians still do have some risk even though it is reduced therefore straight sex stays :disgust:

You don't see your double standard here?

I'm spell it out for you:
Gay sex being higher risk than straight sex is no more relevant than straigh sex being higher risk than lesbian sex.
Neither makes a case for banning that kind of sex and neither certainly makes a case for banning marriage which REDUCES the effects of that risk.

please point out where I said BAN gay sex?

oh yeah thats right, you cant.


You dont even know what your arguing about, so you just hear what you want and act on it.

I'm done with this thread, but expect any state you decide to live in, to ban gay marriage.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Lesbian sex is generally considered low risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but research shows that HPV can be spread between women. Recent studies suggest that HPV is more common among lesbians than previously thought, and is as likely to affect lesbians who have never had sex with a man as those who have.

That quote was answering the question "Can HPV be transferred from women to women?" The original page starts of will saying HPV is prevalent among sexually active young women. It can very easily spread through heterosexual sex. The quotation that you posted just implies that the spread of HPV from women to women was previously underestimated. It does not imply that the spread of HPV is predominantly through lesbian sex.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980

Originally posted by: Rage187

Lesbian sex is generally considered low risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs), but research shows that HPV can be spread between women. Recent studies suggest that HPV is more common among lesbians than previously thought, and is as likely to affect lesbians who have never had sex with a man as those who have.

Wow...your grasp on the ideas here is astonishing!

Here's how it's going:

you: Gay sex is higher risk than straigh sex - BAN IT
me: marriage is monogamy and reduces this.
me: straight sex is higher risk than lesbian sex - BAN IT (hyperbole)
you: but lesbians still do have some risk even though it is reduced therefore straight sex stays :disgust:

You don't see your double standard here?

I'm spell it out for you:
Gay sex being higher risk than straight sex is no more relevant than straigh sex being higher risk than lesbian sex.
Neither makes a case for banning that kind of sex and neither certainly makes a case for banning marriage which REDUCES the effects of that risk.

please point out where I said BAN gay sex?

oh yeah thats right, you cant.


You dont even know what your arguing about, so you just hear what you want and act on it.

I'm done with this thread, but expect any state you decide to live in, to ban gay marriage.

I thought you promised to exit a while ago, what's the holdup?

 

[EpsiIon]

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980

Originally posted by: EpsiIon

Originally posted by: Audiophile1980
Click me for a COMIC

Ahhh, ignorance. "I don't understand a point of view, so I'm going to mock it."

*sigh* Sometimes I think I can post until my fingers cramp up and people like you still won't even want to understand a point of view that isn't your own.

Oh I understand your point. And it's invalid. Both legally by your own constitution and by the principles of your nation.
BTW, I feel the same way as you regarding your "*sigh*"

Did you not read my long post? It addresses the whole thing. I don't see how you could possibly not understand that very simple concept.

*sigh* (BTW, those sighs are not to offend, they are a real representation of my frustration and feeling of futility)

Anyway, your long post is a simple compilation of many points made on the issue, all of them a matter of worldview. If you really think that my point is invalid "both legally by [my] own constitution and by the principles of [my] nation," then either you clearly don't understand my point or you don't understand the laws, constitution, and principles of our nation.

Honestly, I can't really blame you for not understanding my point. Your worldview must be so drastically different from mine... Quite frankly, I have way too much to do than continue this conversation with you. I've already wasted enough time on it tonight.

I'm sorry if my previous post offended you. It wasn't mean to, but I really think that comic is ignorant and unnecessarily inflammatory.

Hmmm, I just noticed that you put it in your sig, as well. I truly pity you if you get satisfaction from offending people. Good night.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: rbloedow



I thought you promised to exit a while ago, what's the holdup?

There you go making stuff up again.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Typing in all caps after getting called out on your own personal ignorance, does nothing but prove my point.


Once again, welcome to the United States of America. One nation under GOD; get used to it.

First of all, I was typing all in caps to mock you. You do realize that, right?

Second, we've been over this:

Welcome to America, the land of the free, a country based on Freedom. The principle that anyone can do whatever they wish as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others and that they're guaranteed equal protection under the law. Get used to it.

You're obviously spewing vitriol based on hate and not a genuine understanding of the issues of gay marriage. This is evident from your wild 'gay disease' tangent which supports gay marriage more than detract from it. That stance only serves to back gays.

 

[Audiophile1980]

I'm done with this thread, but expect any state you decide to live in, to ban gay marriage.

By my count, that's only 11 (Confederate-bible thumping) states which have banned it and 39 which haven't. It doesn't seem that the odds support your last statement especially with that Mass supreme court ruling.

 

[Audiophile1980]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: rbloedow



I thought you promised to exit a while ago, what's the holdup?

There you go making stuff up again.

1st, you do realize that's a different person, right? Not all of your opposition is me.

2nd, what WERE you arguing with all that slamming STD crap if not that? It was a reasonable conclusion that most anyone would have come to since you didn't specify any other one. Were you just saying it to bash gays for no reason? Did you have a point or was it just the bashing? Since it started at the time of discussing risks and danger leading to laws of protection, it was a very logical conclusion.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Typing in all caps after getting called out on your own personal ignorance, does nothing but prove my point.
Once again, welcome to the United States of America. One nation under GOD; get used to it.

And it's a country where there is a wall of separation between church and state. DEAL WITH IT! I want you to be happy. Stop being so unhappy about that truth.

 

[flexy]

And it's a country where there is a wall of separation between church and state. DEAL WITH IT! I want you to be happy. Stop being so unhappy about that truth.

There is NOT.

Politicians use/used faith and god EXTENSIVELY in this campaign to catch votes.

 

[xeno2060]

Ban Bait!!! All F@gs Must Die!!!

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: flexy

And it's a country where there is a wall of separation between church and state. DEAL WITH IT! I want you to be happy. Stop being so unhappy about that truth.

There is NOT.

Politicians use/used faith and god EXTENSIVELY in this campaign to catch votes.

Politicians have the right to practice their faith. The separation of church and state does not restrict that.