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Gauntlet Team Division Poll

bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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here is a copy of my post from the gauntlet thread.

ok, guys, we should start looking at what we want to do with our team(s). We should end up with a little over 30 members, forcing us to split into 2 teams. However, even if not we are way ahead of the pace of the other larger teams. Do we want 2 relatively equal teams, one badass team with our 30 best guys, do we want me and dajeepster to split into one "smaller" team, do we want all of TAS (including dajeepster) on one team, etc? You know what, I think I'll start a new thread with a poll.



If anybody can think of any other options let me know and I'll add it to the poll.



Right now we have 22 users, so there is a possibility that we'll be under 30 and not HAVE to split up. Right now we are about 60% more powerful than the next highest single team (though s@nl is ahead of us with all their subteams added together).

Stickied as requested. For a week--please advice if this needs to be for longer.
AnandTech Moderator: Fullmetal Chocobo
 
Ok, here are some more numbers:

TAS:
biodoc
Chocobo Navy
dajeepster
Drsignguy
Fardringle
GLeeM
Neurodog
petrusbroder
salvorhardin
Tom Philippart
Total (11 members) 120-140K


The Others:
Assimilator1
Bryan Wallace
Ingleside
Lane42
mk
Ochadd
QuietDad
Rebel Alliance
Soggy
Starrider
Zim Hosein
Wiz
Total (12 members) 65-85K

Please note, that the numbers above are more or less intelligent guesses. Many of the TA-members have not crunched for long enough time for a decent estimate of the RAC.

Edit: corrected error in list.
Edit: to reflect the current team composition.
Edit: to reflect the current team composition.
 
If we are going to have two teams, which are as evenly divides as possible, then I think none of our teams has the chance to win the gauntlet unless we start some heavy recruiting and unless we increase the production of all members.

I myself can not decide just now: either a team of the first 30 crunchers and the second team (which would discourage recruiting to the second team, because that team would not have a chance to win) or two even teams, which may have a chance to win if we recruit sufficient members and increase production. I'll vote later.
 
Drsignguy is TAS too Peter.

I'd be interested in the long time Seti cruncher's opinions. I'm a transient to Seti and am "crashing" the gauntlet party. I don't mind being on the losing TeAm, if that's the way the vote goes.

I too haven't voted yet.
 
I have no preference, just offering my RAC to use how you see fit. Praying to whomever new powersupply gets here before old one goes..... things always get flakey just before you need them not to fail..
 
well, if we get enough strong members then we could have 2 very competitive teams. I kind of like s@N's "AAD against the world" concept but I think that it's not fair to dajeepster to dump him off by himself.

I personally think it would be best if we can go 1 & 2, but we'll probably need another 80k ppd and a nearly exact split to do it. If I borg every computer at the office for the entire guantlet I can probably get close to 30k ppd. I think that we need to get everyone crunching now so that we'll have a reasonable estimate of ppd for each member.
 
iam still a little fuzzy on how the RAC between teams will be matched up to have a fair Gauntlet.
Are the guys running the race gona set a max RAC and the stronger teams will have to split up to meet this max. ?
 
no, the only max is 30 team members. however, seti@netherlands and probably a few others are going to have more total ppd potential than we do, so if we just pick our top 30 users it might piss a few people off.
 
I think we should split into two teams. If the other teams have already started crunching in anticipation of the race then we would win the race. If we split into two teams it can make the race more exciting for everybody involved. We might not win, but mostly all of us are here to have a good time. I voted for TAS vs everyone else but now that I think about it, I would like to hear dajeepster's opinion on what the teams should be. If we do dajeepster & bryanw1995 vs everyone else the teams appear to be even points wise.
 
Does'nt really make it a differance to me. We are all still on the same team no matter what. But, I did vote to divide the TAS and others into two if needed. Just seems logical since it would be an easier solution if needed to split.
 
Well, this is very interesting:

12 TA:ers have voted:

4 votes for splitting only if we are more than 30 members,
4 votes for TAS vs the others
4 votes for splitting into two even teams.

This is kind of fun because two alternatives are out of the race: the alternative "one stong and one weak team" and "dajeepster and bryanw1995 and the others".
TAS is our rally-sub-team and TAS packs a big punch. OTOH: "TAS and the others" is similar to the "one strong and one weaker team"-alternative ...

Oh, BTW: Rudy Toody has some problems running seti@home on one (?) of his quads and has withdrawn from the race. I recognize the problem too - I have it on one of my quad-core too ... and it is not the heat ... 😉 Second post adjusted to reflect this.
 
it's going to be tough to decide what to do if three different options all get the same # of votes. We can't do anything until the 18th, however, so let's see if the other 11 gauntleteers want to vote before making a decision.
 
Originally posted by: petrusbroder
Well, this is very interesting:


Oh, BTW: Rudy Toody has some problems running seti@home on one (?) of his quads and has withdrawn from the race. I recognize the problem too - I have it on one of my quad-core too ... and it is not the heat ... 😉 Second post adjusted to reflect this.
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So whats the problem or that a secret?
 
Somewhat OT - but an answer to Soggysocks:

Oh, no secret: the computer crashes and reboots, and after some time (in my case 40 - 50 minutes) crashes again and reboots ... 🙁
I tried to find the problem and I know the following:
1. It is not the heat - it crashed when the CPU-temps were only in the 50-ies degrees C, it was a complete crash (and not only the program or BOINC), it did not matter if I ran it on one, two, three or four cores ...
2. I have an other computer which is very similar: the same mobo, cpu, RAM, graphics card, HDD, DVD-drive, case and PSU, and that one works perfectly with Seti@home.
3. Other projects work perfectly well on the crashing one, except for CPDN.
4. And, no, the CPU is not OC'ed.

It is kind of funny ... 😉
 
Somewhat OT - but an answer to Soggysocks:

Astrpulse, normal and optimized, would error out within 3 seconds. Normal Seti would run. Optimized Seti would not even start a WU.

Since that time, the BOINC Client disappears every few hours and takes all the YoYo, ABC, and PrimeGrid apps with it. I have re-installed the client to fix this (I hope.)
 
Originally posted by: Rudy Toody

Since that time, the BOINC Client disappears every few hours and takes all the YoYo, ABC, and PrimeGrid apps with it. I have re-installed the client to fix this (I hope.)
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I've seen this problem several times on my systems... more specifically, on a couple of the dell systems i have. I basically had to do a re-install and made sure I had good nic drivers. For some reason, it wouldn't just let me re-install the nic drivers, I had to do a fresh install... i.e. wipe the drive completely, not just a re-install... was strange.

but basically, this is a network problem. if i unplugged the computer from the network, BOINC would still run, but would just pop up that it had problems communicating. as soon as i plugged the cable back in, everything on boinc would disappear.

I haven't seen this problem in about 6 months on campus and i haven't seen it in two months at home. changing boinc clients didn't solve the problem either.
 
So far, I have gone a half day without problems. If I make it another half day, I will consider it fixed. (At one day and one hour everything will go toes ups to prove me wrong.)
 
Originally posted by: Rudy Toody
So far, I have gone a half day without problems. If I make it another half day, I will consider it fixed. (At one day and one hour everything will go toes ups to prove me wrong.)
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Bummer about the Seti issues!🙁 Hope it's fixed now.

:beer:
 
Ideally we could stay as one. Obviously if we exceed the maximum number of participants it needs to be done but also IMO for the sake of competition and sportsmanship if we lead in RAC by a huge margin it might be appropriate to have two sub-teams.

If we have to split up it should be to two at least comparatively competitive teams, one with the big teams and the other with the smaller ones (the RAC split in post #2 looks ideal). Splitting evenly would make winning difficult for either and having one team with the top30 wouldn't be nice to the ones who don't make it (though it looks like this won't be a problem). TAS & the rest seems to be the most obvious way to make two teams (dajeepster/BryanW1995,if they so choose, & the rest would be ok too).
 
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