Gamestop: 360 returns are down

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Queasy
My only complaint is that I just don't have the time for gaming like I used to. A full-time job, marriage, two kids, a house, sports, and a side-business will do that to you. I literally have not played a game in almost three weeks. I rented Bioshock the week it came out and have not had the time to play it.

Same problem here minus the two kids. I rarely have time between social events, all the sports I play (run marathons, soccer, and ice hockey), the house, full time job (which as been really stressful lately), and side photography business...I rarely get a moment to sit down and play. Last night was an exception. My wife had to work late, so she sat next to me on the couch with her laptop while I played COD4 and Forza 2 for about 4 hours...it was SOOOO nice.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I have a few clients that are in their 60's that are seriously into RPGs and MMOs. 2 were playing on OEM systems with IGP that could barely play some of the titles, before I was referred to them. The Wii seems to be pulling in more of that age group too. Fun knows no age, and once you get someone to try an addictive title, that's all she wrote.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: hans030390

I guess in my area, the gamers are all mostly teens. 33 seems WAY to high for me.

You have to remember that at 33, a lot of those guys/gals grew up on the NES and Atari 2600...when console gaming really caught on. Not only that, but they were there when arcades were huge. Really anyone from the age of 30-40 were there when video games really came to be and look on them fondly as a connection with their youth.

My dad played stick ball and baseball all the time when he was a kid. To this day (and he's just turning 70 this coming January), he still regularly goes to the batting cage and loves going to baseball games. It reminds him of his youth and playing stick ball in Brooklyn.

Playing anything from Bioshock to XBLA Frogger brings back fond memories of spending hours trying to beat Super Mario Brothers at my friends house.

My point is...the average age of gamers is rising and is going to continue to rise as people who grew up with games get older. I still see myself being 70 and playing video games. Heck, my wife (who would be the furthest thing from the definition of a nerd) loves playing Viva Pinata.

Bingo. I'm about to turn 33 and I started out with an Atari 2600. I later got an Atari 5200 and a SNES as well. I then got hooked on PC gaming with D&D - Pool of Radiance and didn't get back to console gaming until the Dreamcast and have moved to almost 100% console gaming only now.

Gaming is a hobby just like any other hobby. It is has the stigma of being kids only but there are plenty of adults that grew up playing video games that still enjoy it today.

My only complaint is that I just don't have the time for gaming like I used to. A full-time job, marriage, two kids, a house, sports, and a side-business will do that to you. I literally have not played a game in almost three weeks. I rented Bioshock the week it came out and have not had the time to play it.

Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons


(Not that I'd buy a Zephyr Premium or Elite -- I'm holding out for a 65nm Falcon.)

I'm waiting on the Falcon to buy my second (with a larger hard drive)...but I wouldn't wait on it for my first as there is just too much fun to be had. Call of Duty 4 online has been fantastic. Bioshock is amazing. Forza 2 is great. Madden 08 has been a blast with friends (soooo much better than 07). Gears of War is still fun to pop in. Rainbow Six is a blast online. Halo 3 is days away. Mass Effect is going to be AMAZING...there's no doubt about it (Bioware is incapable of making a bad game IMHO).

Common Dave...jump in!

I have enough unplayed PC, PS2 and PS3 games that I can afford to wait

I just started playing (watching?) Xenosaga 1 and have Ico and several other PS2 games, plus Marvel Ultimate Alliance on the PS3.

Once I join Gamefly I'll rent Lair (just to see if I'm in the minority who get the controls), Stranglehold, Ninja Gaiden and Heavenly Sword.

Mass Effect is the first 360 game I "need" to play, though I have others like Crackdown on my "want to play" list.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant? I didn't know Frogger was the be-all, end-all of gaming for "millions" of Americans. Your mom doesn't stand for every American who has ever played a game, either (although I hear she's on her back a lot.....eh, had to take the cheap shot at the troll, everyone does ).

Why can't you consider "ex-gamers" into the equation? No wonder you think the average age is 15, you only count the people when they first start playing games, and that's it. Hell, I took a couple of years off from console gaming until I picked up my 360, am I now not included in the age survey?

The Wii/GC, DS/GBA have always had the stigma of being more for kids, and they definitely lean that way. But they certainly aren't for "kids only". You said yourself that you bought a Wii, are you now telling us your exterior matches your maturity level?

The simple fact of the matter is that you are wrong in your assumption that the average gamer is 15. The last official survey/study showed that it was 29, and that was a couple of years ago.

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Your cheap shot earned you a week off.

At this point within the thread, CasioTech had said nothing to deserve such a comment.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant?

yes ... he is.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

When is the last time you have been right about ANYTHING? Most of the Wii owners on this forum are older than 20. That is, older than you. Those systems aren't for kids ONLY. Many, many adults love them for their unique games. Wasn't Jessica Alba in the news recently talking about playing Brain Age on her DS? And some rapper was talking about playing Phoenix Wright on his. It's not JUST kids. If I had to guess, I'd say it's very popular among kids under 10-12, then the popularity fades as you move through the teens (graphics whores/kids who grew up on Playstation), then when you get into the 20s you hit the people who have matured enough to have fun playing a "kids" game because it's FUN without getting hung up on cartoonish graphics.

Wii and DS games are ACCESSIBLE (easy to learn), which makes them ideal for adults.

The average age of 33 does sound a bit high to me, but 15 is too low.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant?

yes ... he is.

If enough of us pile on, will he leave?

BANZAI!

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant?

yes ... he is.

I'm beginning to see that.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant? I didn't know Frogger was the be-all, end-all of gaming for "millions" of Americans. Your mom doesn't stand for every American who has ever played a game, either (although I hear she's on her back a lot.....eh, had to take the cheap shot at the troll, everyone does ).

Why can't you consider "ex-gamers" into the equation? No wonder you think the average age is 15, you only count the people when they first start playing games, and that's it. Hell, I took a couple of years off from console gaming until I picked up my 360, am I now not included in the age survey?

The Wii/GC, DS/GBA have always had the stigma of being more for kids, and they definitely lean that way. But they certainly aren't for "kids only". You said yourself that you bought a Wii, are you now telling us your exterior matches your maturity level?

The simple fact of the matter is that you are wrong in your assumption that the average gamer is 15. The last official survey/study showed that it was 29, and that was a couple of years ago.

First off, yes my mother is a very attractive woman (and spawned a very attractive offspring) whereas no one would probably touch your mother with a rented dick.

Yes I have no problem playing GC/Wii games even though they are WAY below my maturity level. I play games for different reasons that the average loser does.. IE, cursing and bloodshed. I can be content with playing an artful game that isn't all shooting and destruction.

again 29 is the age people buy games for their small children. I can assure you that very few women at that age play games and there could be quite a few men, but that still isn't an average. Let me explain...

Every 10 year old that plays, there has to be a 55 year old to average that 33 y/o gaming range. There are millions more 10 y/o than 55 y/o. Older people don't even know what a PS3 is. Either way, when someone is over 50 they probably have better things to do with their time, like travel or drive fast cars and spend their retirement money on hot young girlfriends. I know I wouldn't waste time with games after the age of 30 but that's me (with my high maturity). Games don't even grab my attention these days. I may play something for 15 minutes a day. I lost interest in MP3/Bioshock after 3 hours.

A gamer is someone who plays consistantly, on current consoles. If you take into account someone who played frogger and mario or space invaders, than the average 'gamer' is 65 years old but that would be as retarded a survey as you are. You believe everything you read.


It doesn't count that some old guy played frogger 20 years ago either. Without Madden, the average age count would drop even more.

 

[RaiderJ]

You have to remember CasioTech is just a ForumTrollbot that spent way too much time on other video game forums. It seems to have picked up a bad attitude along the way.

For the 360, adding the extra heatsink isn't something I'd consider a permanent fix. All it does is lower the temperature of the board around the GPU, which will lessen the flex. However, considering the size of the original heatsink, I can't say it's a bad thing. If anyone has a 360 with the RRoD, it is easily fixed with $5 in parts from Home Depot, assuming you have no objections to opening your case.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant? I didn't know Frogger was the be-all, end-all of gaming for "millions" of Americans. Your mom doesn't stand for every American who has ever played a game, either (although I hear she's on her back a lot.....eh, had to take the cheap shot at the troll, everyone does ).

Why can't you consider "ex-gamers" into the equation? No wonder you think the average age is 15, you only count the people when they first start playing games, and that's it. Hell, I took a couple of years off from console gaming until I picked up my 360, am I now not included in the age survey?

The Wii/GC, DS/GBA have always had the stigma of being more for kids, and they definitely lean that way. But they certainly aren't for "kids only". You said yourself that you bought a Wii, are you now telling us your exterior matches your maturity level?

The simple fact of the matter is that you are wrong in your assumption that the average gamer is 15. The last official survey/study showed that it was 29, and that was a couple of years ago.

First off, yes my mother is a very attractive woman (and spawned a very attractive offspring) whereas no one would probably touch your mother with a rented dick.

Yes I have no problem playing GC/Wii games even though they are WAY below my maturity level. I play games for different reasons that the average loser does.. IE, cursing and bloodshed. I can be content with playing an artful game that isn't all shooting and destruction.

again 29 is the age people buy games for their small children. I can assure you that very few women at that age play games and there could be quite a few men, but that still isn't an average. Let me explain...

Every 10 year old that plays, there has to be a 55 year old to average that 33 y/o gaming range. There are millions more 10 y/o than 55 y/o. Older people don't even know what a PS3 is. Either way, when someone is over 50 they probably have better things to do with their time, like travel or drive fast cars and spend their retirement money on hot young girlfriends. I know I wouldn't waste time with games after the age of 30 but that's me (with my high maturity). Games don't even grab my attention these days. I may play something for 15 minutes a day. I lost interest in MP3/Bioshock after 3 hours.

A gamer is someone who plays consistantly, on current consoles. If you take into account someone who played frogger and mario or space invaders, than the average 'gamer' is 65 years old but that would be as retarded a survey as you are. You believe everything you read.


It doesn't count that some old guy played frogger 20 years ago either. Without Madden, the average age count would drop even more.

please just shut up already.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: CasioTech

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Still a crappy survey. Sure you could have played games in the 80's like most. But with the death of frogger came the death of gaming for millions. My mom played Q-Bert, NES Mario and then as it got to complicated and 3d (as well as targeted ONLY TO YOUTH) as seen with PS1/N64.

Now it's more mature but you can't consider ex-gamers (currently 33+) that are getting back into gaming. Last time I checked the Wii/GC, PSP and DS/GBA are for KIDS ONLY. Those make pretty much for 75% the gaming market. Current gamers average no more than 15 years of age.

Are you really that ignorant? I didn't know Frogger was the be-all, end-all of gaming for "millions" of Americans. Your mom doesn't stand for every American who has ever played a game, either (although I hear she's on her back a lot.....eh, had to take the cheap shot at the troll, everyone does ).

Why can't you consider "ex-gamers" into the equation? No wonder you think the average age is 15, you only count the people when they first start playing games, and that's it. Hell, I took a couple of years off from console gaming until I picked up my 360, am I now not included in the age survey?

The Wii/GC, DS/GBA have always had the stigma of being more for kids, and they definitely lean that way. But they certainly aren't for "kids only". You said yourself that you bought a Wii, are you now telling us your exterior matches your maturity level?

The simple fact of the matter is that you are wrong in your assumption that the average gamer is 15. The last official survey/study showed that it was 29, and that was a couple of years ago.

First off, yes my mother is a very attractive woman (and spawned a very attractive offspring) whereas no one would probably touch your mother with a rented dick.

Yes I have no problem playing GC/Wii games even though they are WAY below my maturity level. I play games for different reasons that the average loser does.. IE, cursing and bloodshed. I can be content with playing an artful game that isn't all shooting and destruction.

again 29 is the age people buy games for their small children. I can assure you that very few women at that age play games and there could be quite a few men, but that still isn't an average. Let me explain...

Every 10 year old that plays, there has to be a 55 year old to average that 33 y/o gaming range. There are millions more 10 y/o than 55 y/o. Older people don't even know what a PS3 is. Either way, when someone is over 50 they probably have better things to do with their time, like travel or drive fast cars and spend their retirement money on hot young girlfriends. I know I wouldn't waste time with games after the age of 30 but that's me (with my high maturity). Games don't even grab my attention these days. I may play something for 15 minutes a day. I lost interest in MP3/Bioshock after 3 hours.

A gamer is someone who plays consistantly, on current consoles. If you take into account someone who played frogger and mario or space invaders, than the average 'gamer' is 65 years old but that would be as retarded a survey as you are. You believe everything you read.


It doesn't count that some old guy played frogger 20 years ago either. Without Madden, the average age count would drop even more.

please just shut up already.

LMAO ... but you have to admit, it's amusing to read his replies because it's like a trainwreck. he's almost so stupid that you feel bad for him, but at the same time you don't because he's just such an idiot and brings it all on himself.

 

[CasioTech]

At least I know what i'm talking about instead of reading noob survey's that are flawed without any of the variables checked out. This is probably a survey funded by the video game industry to get old people to get back into gaming (and for existing old people, not to feel so bad that their favorite hobbies are that of a prepubescent teenager.) Where do they even get these polls? From people walking down the street? Or from game sales which prove nothing?

What's the matter purebeast, am I getting in the way of you browsing at your 'uber sweet' programming job? I kind of pity you because you always use your job as a front for your inadequacies. People who think they are an intricate part of society because they are employed are pretty pathetic. Life is more than about your job. Like looking great and having a non gold digging g/f. But that's for another day. Either way you are too ingnorant for me to teach you about fundamentals of living a happy life. It's clear playing games all day and browsing forums makes you happy. When virtual life > real life, you should look into that. On top of that you never have in interesting response to my pwnage other than some kind of vulgar, distasteful, remark. Bigot.

As for Halo 3. I have been watching some beta footage. Nothing in HD so I can't tell if it's better than Halo 2 for PC. Doesn't seem that way yet. What are some other things they added to multiplayer that are honorable mentions?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
At least I know what i'm talking about instead of reading noob survey's that are flawed without any of the variables checked out. This is probably a survey funded by the video game industry to get old people to get back into gaming (and for existing old people, not to feel so bad that their favorite hobbies are that of a prepubescent teenager.) Where do they even get these polls? From people walking down the street? Or from game sales which prove nothing?

What's the matter purebeast, am I getting in the way of you browsing at your 'uber sweet' programming job? I kind of pity you because you always use your job as a front for your inadequacies. People who think they are an intricate part of society because they are employed are pretty pathetic. Life is more than about your job. Like looking great and having a non gold digging g/f. But that's for another day. Either way you are too ingnorant for me to teach you about fundamentals of living a happy life. It's clear playing games all day and browsing forums makes you happy. When virtual life > real life, you should look into that. On top of that you never have in interesting response to my pwnage other than some kind of vulgar, distasteful, remark. Bigot.

As for Halo 3. I have been watching some beta footage. Nothing in HD so I can't tell if it's better than Halo 2 for PC. Doesn't seem that way yet. What are some other things they added to multiplayer that are honorable mentions?

hahah awesome, keep them coming.

i love how you have yet to spell my username correct one time.

and please oh please teach me the ways mr danny casio. i want to know how you got on such the high pedestal that you are on.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
First off, yes my mother is a very attractive woman (and spawned a very attractive offspring) whereas no one would probably touch your mother with a rented dick.

I didn't know you could rent dicks. Must only be in your part of town, or something your family does to put food on the table.

Originally posted by: CasioTechYes I have no problem playing GC/Wii games even though they are WAY below my maturity level. I play games for different reasons that the average loser does.. IE, cursing and bloodshed. I can be content with playing an artful game that isn't all shooting and destruction.

Not every GC/Wii game is considered childish. Stating that very thing ruins your credibility, if you ever even had any, from the very start. Care to name us a couple of "artful" games you've enjoyed in the past?

Originally posted by: CasioTechI know I wouldn't waste time with games after the age of 30 but that's me (with my high maturity). Games don't even grab my attention these days. I may play something for 15 minutes a day. I lost interest in MP3/Bioshock after 3 hours.

So why do you waste your time on games now? You claim to be so mature and wise to the gaming world, yet you still play videogames? Why? You even state that games don't grab your attention anymore, yet we're supposed to believe your opinion to be relevant.

Originally posted by: CasioTechA gamer is someone who plays consistantly, on current consoles. If you take into account someone who played frogger and mario or space invaders, than the average 'gamer' is 65 years old but that would be as retarded a survey as you are. You believe everything you read.

Any survey I've ever seen only counts current gamers. Assuming a study includes anyone who has ever played a game for one second in their life, and counts their age at the time towards the study, is completely retarded, to steal a word from your playbook. I'm not the biggest believer in every study that was ever released, but I surely believe one that was done under certain conditions rather than your malignant diatribe that you just pulled out of your ass.

You're just wrong on your assumption of the average age of gamers. Come to terms with it. Or, respond, and give me something to do for my last hour of work.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
At least I know what i'm talking about instead of reading noob survey's that are flawed without any of the variables checked out. This is probably a survey funded by the video game industry to get old people to get back into gaming (and for existing old people, not to feel so bad that their favorite hobbies are that of a prepubescent teenager.) Where do they even get these polls? From people walking down the street? Or from game sales which prove nothing?

So where exactly are your "checked out" variables for your numbers? Who did you poll?

Originally posted by: CasioTechWhat's the matter purebeast, am I getting in the way of you browsing at your 'uber sweet' programming job? I kind of pity you because you always use your job as a front for your inadequacies. People who think they are an intricate part of society because they are employed are pretty pathetic.

Somebody has to pay for your welfare check every month.

Originally posted by: CasioTechAs for Halo 3. I have been watching some beta footage. Nothing in HD so I can't tell if it's better than Halo 2 for PC. Doesn't seem that way yet. What are some other things they added to multiplayer that are honorable mentions?

An actual comment that I can respond to with dignity and purpose. I'd suggest not watching any footage from the beta. One, it's multiplayer, in which games notoriously lack in graphics because of aspect of reducing lag and such over network connections. I couldn't tell you technically why this is, it's just commonly known. Look at GRAW for an example. Check out some HD single player videos, and then you'll get an idea of how it will look.

ANYTHING looks better than Halo 2 for the PC. That horrid piece of shit should've never hit store shelves.

New things to multiplayer include new maps, the addition of "equipment", and more customizable options for players and clans. Also, the match recording feature will be used by many, many people.

 

[CasioTech]

***BORE***. Yes, my father rents out dicks to put food on my family's table.

Artful, like Starfox Adventures, MP, Zelda TP, Monkey Ball, SSBM, Luigi's Mansion... I could go on and on.

I play games because I still enjoy my daily supply of eye candy for the time being. My time has dwindled exponentially since I was 15 playing video games on my DC.

So you get paid to do nothing at your job but sit and post on forums? I'll bet you feel accomplished at the end of your day.

 

[Aikouka]

You can't say the study is bogus unless you know how the study was conducted. I perused the website and was unable to find any comments on their sample size, etc. Also, if you go to another section, it details out the age groups and shows that around 50% of the gamers are age 18 to 46 (I think that was the gap).

Although no matter what, unless you have a study to back up your own idea of "no, 33 is not the median" then just keep your quiet. You have no data to back your own claims up other than what you believe. Personal beliefs are not adequate enough to debunk an entire study unless the study claims all encompassing and you're a contradiction to that (which I doubt you'll find a study claiming universal quantification in their logical remarks anyway).

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: CasioTech
At least I know what i'm talking about instead of reading noob survey's that are flawed without any of the variables checked out. This is probably a survey funded by the video game industry to get old people to get back into gaming (and for existing old people, not to feel so bad that their favorite hobbies are that of a prepubescent teenager.) Where do they even get these polls? From people walking down the street? Or from game sales which prove nothing?

So where exactly are your "checked out" variables for your numbers? Who did you poll?

Originally posted by: CasioTechWhat's the matter purebeast, am I getting in the way of you browsing at your 'uber sweet' programming job? I kind of pity you because you always use your job as a front for your inadequacies. People who think they are an intricate part of society because they are employed are pretty pathetic.

Somebody has to pay for your welfare check every month.

Originally posted by: CasioTechAs for Halo 3. I have been watching some beta footage. Nothing in HD so I can't tell if it's better than Halo 2 for PC. Doesn't seem that way yet. What are some other things they added to multiplayer that are honorable mentions?

An actual comment that I can respond to with dignity and purpose. I'd suggest not watching any footage from the beta. One, it's multiplayer, in which games notoriously lack in graphics because of aspect of reducing lag and such over network connections. I couldn't tell you technically why this is, it's just commonly known. Look at GRAW for an example. Check out some HD single player videos, and then you'll get an idea of how it will look.

ANYTHING looks better than Halo 2 for the PC. That horrid piece of shit should've never hit store shelves.

New things to multiplayer include new maps, the addition of "equipment", and more customizable options for players and clans. Also, the match recording feature will be used by many, many people.

You know, I don't know anything about welfare and i'll bet you have about 4 kids just to qualify for that huge Section 8 help. Citizens like you makes me glad 60% of my revenue is cash and my brother is an accountant The things we do...erm. My family's always had way to much money to ever qualify for any 'welfare'.

Halo 2 for PC looks WAY better and is much improved over the Xbox version. If anything that horrid shit should have never been released for XBOX.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
You can't say the study is bogus unless you know how the study was conducted. I perused the website and was unable to find any comments on their sample size, etc. Also, if you go to another section, it details out the age groups and shows that around 50% of the gamers are age 18 to 46 (I think that was the gap).

Although no matter what, unless you have a study to back up your own idea of "no, 33 is not the median" then just keep your quiet. You have no data to back your own claims up other than what you believe. Personal beliefs are not adequate enough to debunk an entire study unless the study claims all encompassing and you're a contradiction to that (which I doubt you'll find a study claiming universal quantification in their logical remarks anyway).

You just said it yourself. 50% are aged 33 on average. The other 50% are kids who would destroy that data.

 

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Please forgive me since I'm new to this forum but is this retard exclusive to the console forum or does he troll all of them?

 

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Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Please forgive me since I'm new to this forum but is this retard exclusive to the console forum or does he troll all of them?

It's sort of a game of "whack a troll". He sticks his head up out of one hole and gets hammered, only to pop up somewhere else.

 

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
Artful, like Starfox Adventures, MP, Zelda TP, Monkey Ball, SSBM, Luigi's Mansion... I could go on and on.

Many people would consider Starfox Adventure, Monkey Ball, and Luigi's Mansion child's games, but we don't judge games as harshly as you do. Only games you like fall under your "artful" umbrella. Games you don't like are automatically considered childish.

Originally posted by: CasioTechSo you get paid to do nothing at your job but sit and post on forums? I'll bet you feel accomplished at the end of your day.

Like you said earlier, there's more important things to life than work. Why are you such a hypocrite in your posts?

Originally posted by: CasioTechYou know, I don't know anything about welfare and i'll bet you have about 4 kids just to qualify for that huge Section 8 help. Citizens like you makes me glad 60% of my revenue is cash and my brother is an accountant

So I actually pay all of my taxes and you don't? That makes me like you even more.... My wife is an accountant, does that make me better than you?

Originally posted by: CasioTechHalo 2 for PC looks WAY better and is much improved over the Xbox version. If anything that horrid shit should have never been released for XBOX.

That proves you know nothing about gaming, period. Halo 2 looked decent for it's time on the console of choice. How exactly is the PC port "much improved" over the XBOX version? I'm serious, I'd like to know what you consider "improved".

 

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
You can't say the study is bogus unless you know how the study was conducted. I perused the website and was unable to find any comments on their sample size, etc. Also, if you go to another section, it details out the age groups and shows that around 50% of the gamers are age 18 to 46 (I think that was the gap).

Although no matter what, unless you have a study to back up your own idea of "no, 33 is not the median" then just keep your quiet. You have no data to back your own claims up other than what you believe. Personal beliefs are not adequate enough to debunk an entire study unless the study claims all encompassing and you're a contradiction to that (which I doubt you'll find a study claiming universal quantification in their logical remarks anyway).

You just said it yourself. 50% are aged 33 on average. The other 50% are kids who would destroy that data.

Just shut up already.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-b...s_index.php?story=9342

According to the report, which questioned a sample of 1,700 U.S. households, 69 percent of American ?heads of households? play computer or video games. The average gamer was said to be thirty-three years of age, with 31 percent under eighteen years of age, 44 percent between eighteen and forty-nine and 25 percent fifty years or older. The average age of the most frequent game purchaser is forty years of age.

They're not just making shit up. And before you question the number of households, that is more than the number of people who are polled in most presidential election polls (they usually use ~1000 people and have a margin of error of +/- 3%).

If you want to criticize the statistic (and really, we would all prefer that you just shut the hell up), question the fact that there is no mention of the number of hours per week spent gaming. If you weighted the average based on hours spent gaming, you'd see the number dropped. Question the wording of the question, because for all we know they could count flash games.

But really, please just shut the hell up. Every post you make is one of the most insanely, idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent nonsense, are you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.