[GamersNexus] Building a GTX 1080 Hybrid P 3: Performance Results (Overclocking 1080)

[Azix]

Gains with OC not so great. Interesting point about needing longer periods of testing to be sure an overclock is actually beneficial beyond benchmarks. Wonder how these 2.5Ghz claims for water-cooled cards will turn out since it wasn't stable with games just under 2200Mhz. Could be down to the single power connector. Another reason to not get a founders edition card as it's going to be gimped even if you put on a water cooling kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3fi1ovAP0

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2441-diy-gtx-1080-hybrid-thermals-100-percent-lower-higher-oc-room

 

[exar333]

The results actually look promising. The scaling between 1733 and 2050 are very solid. If we remove power delivery (more than a single 8-pin) + cooling ability (replace crappy OEM cooler) it should be telling on what the true ceiling is.

Using just the FE, I don't think it provides enough data to say how good (or bad) custom solutions may be. For reference, the 980Ti reference 'only' OC'd 25%. This is around 18%. Historically, that's pretty solid for the standard OEM card to OC to.

Seems to be a lot of conclusions being made, both positve and negative, on a real lack of evidence so far.

 

[Det0x]

. Wonder how these 2.5Ghz claims for water-cooled cards will turn out since it wasn't stable with games just under 2200Mhz

~2050 / ~1783* = ~14% max overclock on stock founders card

~2164 / ~1783* = ~21% max overclock on watercooled founders 1080 card

2500 / ~1783* = needs a 40% max overclock... Unlikely

* = TPU actually shows the average clock of 1080 as 1783 MHz

 

[4K_shmoorK]

Yeah you are right, these OC results look pretty awful. Throw it in the trash. No async compute? Useless.

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[railven]

The results actually look promising. The scaling between 1733 and 2050 are very solid. If we remove power delivery (more than a single 8-pin) + cooling ability (replace crappy OEM cooler) it should be telling on what the true ceiling is.

Using just the FE, I don't think it provides enough data to say how good (or bad) custom solutions may be. For reference, the 980Ti reference 'only' OC'd 25%. This is around 18%. Historically, that's pretty solid for the standard OEM card to OC to.

Seems to be a lot of conclusions being made, both positve and negative, on a real lack of evidence so far.

Just makes the wait for custom PCB cards more painful.

Kudos to Gamer Nexus for throwing an EVGA Hybrid on to it. Always good to see out of the box reviews. There was another review site that did an Accelero IV too. Kudos to them too.

 

[Azix]

Yeah you are right, these OC results look pretty awful. Throw it in the trash. No async compute? Useless.

nobody said the actual OC was bad.

1. question of 2.5Ghz claims
2. so-so scaling. or at least fps gains

 

[4K_shmoorK]

nobody said the actual OC was bad.

1. question of 2.5Ghz claims
2. so-so scaling. or at least fps gains

Maybe reserve judgement on OC capabilities until a hard launch? It seems there's a new thread every couple hours in the VC&G section discussing pretty much the same thing is all I'm saying.

Just a lurker going back to lurking now. VC&G still as circular in its discourse as ever.

 

[MrTeal]

The results actually look promising. The scaling between 1733 and 2050 are very solid. If we remove power delivery (more than a single 8-pin) + cooling ability (replace crappy OEM cooler) it should be telling on what the true ceiling is.

Using just the FE, I don't think it provides enough data to say how good (or bad) custom solutions may be. For reference, the 980Ti reference 'only' OC'd 25%. This is around 18%. Historically, that's pretty solid for the standard OEM card to OC to.

Seems to be a lot of conclusions being made, both positve and negative, on a real lack of evidence so far.

This overclocking did remove thermals. If you look at the review, the highest GPU delta T was under 20C, so the GPU temps would have stayed in the mid 40s. Hopefully better PCBs expose more overclocking headroom, and it's not just a limit of the chip itself.

 

[boozzer]

damn it, why the hell can't they include a 980 ti lightning in there? would give a much, much clearer comparison.

 

[96Firebird]

Compared to the "overclocker's dream", this must be the overclocker's utopia!


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[AtenRa]

OK i haven't seen this before,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNCfn4y8dBw&feature=youtu.be&t=4m54s

Really now, WTF

Edit: And when they say partners will launch at 27 of May they mean this, not custom cards.

 

[kawi6rr]

damn it, why the hell can't they include a 980 ti lightning in there? would give a much, much clearer comparison.

Because it would show the 1080 in a much dimmer light.

 

[Azix]

Maybe reserve judgement on OC capabilities until a hard launch? It seems there's a new thread every couple hours in the VC&G section discussing pretty much the same thing is all I'm saying.

Just a lurker going back to lurking now. VC&G still as circular in its discourse as ever.

For the founders edition I think its solid. this was under water. Probably a power limit. They apparently are launching other boards on the 27th so those might do better getting to that 2500Mhz under water claim I keep seeing around.

 

[monstercameron]

Compared to the "overclocker's dream", this must be the overclocker's utopia!

~15-20% IS utopic?

 

[boozzer]

Because it would show the 1080 in a much dimmer light.

for the last couple of years, it feels like most review sites exists just to feed me fud.

 

[4K_shmoorK]

For the founders edition I think its solid. this was under water. Probably a power limit. They apparently are launching other boards on the 27th so those might do better getting to that 2500Mhz under water claim I keep seeing around.

It would be interesting to know if there is a hard limit to OC clocks (even under water) because of the 8-pin. Even more interested to know if there will be 8 + 6-pin custom versions or will enthusiast cards (1080 Ti/Titan) be the only green pascal cards that see 8+6 configurations.

I think I, like most people in this forum, am more interested in what AMD will bring to the table.

 

[David_k]

~15-20% IS utopic?

It was a joke toward the Fury X and the promise of the "overclockers dream" card.

 

[boozzer]

It was a joke toward the Fury X and the promise of the "overclockers dream" card.

he knows the joke he is just putting the other poster on the spot for mocking prematurely

 

[railven]

~15-20% IS utopic?

If 0-5% is a dream, I'd agree.

EDIT:

It was a joke toward the Fury X and the promise of the "overclockers dream" card.

Sometimes jokes around here are too touchy. I had a good laugh. Haha.

 

[Face2Face]

OK i haven't seen this before,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNCfn4y8dBw&feature=youtu.be&t=4m54s

Really now, WTF

Edit: And when they say partners will launch at 27 of May they mean this, not custom cards.

Interesting video. NVIDIA isn't being very clear on why the Founders Edition is $100 more. It seems like they want to test the market to see if they can sell it as more of A premium product.

 

[PhonakV30]

But i dream Fury X with 1800Mhz

 

[MrTeal]

But i dream Fury X with 1800Mhz

Easy enough. You can't make it go 1800MHz, but if you bring yourself up to 250,000km/s ~1.8s will go by for every second you experience.

 

[maddie]

Just makes the wait for custom PCB cards more painful.

Kudos to Gamer Nexus for throwing an EVGA Hybrid on to it. Always good to see out of the box reviews. There was another review site that did an Accelero IV too. Kudos to them too.

Should save you and others quite a lot by stopping most from watercooling the FE model. 2% gains in games for all that trouble.

A solid board with at least 1 6 pin PCIE extra needed for watercooling.

With the power/mm^2 generated however, I guess its uncharted territory. Interested in seeing how it works out.

 

[Sweepr]

nobody said the actual OC was bad.

1. question of 2.5Ghz claims

The 2.5 GHz rumour mentions custom models with 2-3x 8-pin connectors, with watercooling.

Still, partners such as ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Galax, GigaByte, MSI are preparing custom boards with 2-3 8-pin connectors. According to our sources, reaching 2.5 GHz using a liquid cooling setup such as Corsair H115i or EK Waterblocks should not be too much of a hassle.

Thread should be closed, there's no way to predict how custom boards with extra power will do based on single 8-pin Founder's Edition.

 

[Grooveriding]

OK i haven't seen this before,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNCfn4y8dBw&feature=youtu.be&t=4m54s

Complete trainwreck. The reps are floundering to justify the new premium on the reference card. They can't even stop calling it a reference card themselves. They were ill prepared as the marketers to the press to represent the product and justify the inflated price point D:

Founders is a trainwreck of an idea and a real blunder in what is usually savvy nvidia marketing. This is one of those bad ideas you can only really save by reverting it and saying we dun goofed. Even if there was some credence to the idea that there is an actual demand for reference cards (maybe by system builders, I doubt end-users) after launch, then sell reference at launch without the founders vernacular for MSRP. Once the rush is over, rebrand it as founders and add the $100 premium and let that demand get filled.

The whole premise they put forward there was weak. It's more than likely a cash grab and an attempt to attach a premium to something that has generally been regarded as the bottom of the barrel lowest tier model.