Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

[KeithTalent]

huh? when?
and irony? Jeff killed Ros w/crossbow. she's now back singing the song while he died?

Wow...

KT

 

[zinfamous]

but how did Oleanna poison Joffery?
she never touched his cup

do you actually listen to the conversations in the show, or do you just fast forward to all the boobs? :hmm:

 

[Phoenix86]

but how did Oleanna poison Joffery?
she never touched his cup

There wasn't a continuous shot of the cup. It was on the table with Oleanna, she had opportunity. They basically did a "Oleanna killed Joffery at the wedding with the poisoned necklace jewel."

 

[Drako]

Icehenge, where the Druids Walkers play ...

And where are they now?
The little children of Icehenge
And what would they say to us?
If we were here... tonight

 

[smackababy]

There wasn't a continuous shot of the cup. It was on the table with Oleanna, she had opportunity. They basically did a "Oleanna killed Joffery at the wedding with the poisoned necklace jewel."

I was actually a bit disappointed they were so blunt about hit. I didn't have a problem with Little Finger hinting at it, using the Tyrell's motto to Sansa, but they should have left it at that. The slower people wouldn't get it and still be in the dark, but those paying attention would understand.

The siege or Mereen was a bit of a let down as well. I was hoping for longer than 30 seconds. I also dislike that Grey Worm was sent in to the sewers, but I will have to express my full discontent in the other thread.

 

[Anubis]

huh? when?
and irony? Jeff killed Ros w/crossbow. she's now back singing the song while he died?

 

[techs]

The siege or Mereen was a bit of a let down as well. I was hoping for longer than 30 seconds. I also dislike that Grey Worm was sent in to the sewers, but I will have to express my full discontent in the other thread.

It was a let down for me as well. I was expecting at least some real hostilities. The "secret" entrance ploy is just too overused.

As we head into the 5th episode and the half way point of the season the show hasn't done too many special effects or costly scenes with many extras. I'm hoping that's to save money for some big ones to come and not just HBO cutting the budget.

 

[quikah]

The siege or Mereen was a bit of a let down as well. I was hoping for longer than 30 seconds. I also dislike that Grey Worm was sent in to the sewers, but I will have to express my full discontent in the other thread.

I don't see a problem with Grey Worm going in, he is a representation of what the slaves can become, free.

The only issue I had with Mereen was the graffitti. There they are speaking this funky language when they come upon this english phrase. Looked goofy.

 

[Anubis]

It was a let down for me as well. I was expecting at least some real hostilities. The "secret" entrance ploy is just too overused.

As we head into the 5th episode and the half way point of the season the show hasn't done too many special effects or costly scenes with many extras. I'm hoping that's to save money for some big ones to come and not just HBO cutting the budget.

id guess we will see a large battle when the wildlings attack the nights watch. thats about all thats left now

 

[cronos]

Removed.

You're right. Sorry

 

[SMOGZINN]

So, in the scene at Caster's cottage the woman tells everyone that she is holding Caster's last baby, which must be given to the white walkers. But we know that is not true, there is another baby, the one that Sam just put in that town near the wall. So, maybe we are going to see the white walkers march on that town?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I don't see a problem with Grey Worm going in, he is a representation of what the slaves can become, free.

The only issue I had with Mereen was the graffitti. There they are speaking this funky language when they come upon this english phrase. Looked goofy.

I was fine with the graffiti being in English. I mean, sure, it's silly if you think about it, but I wasn't thinking about it, and having it scrawled on the wall in gibberish to represent a fictional language would require subtitles which kind of lessens the impact of the scene. For the sake of convenience, it's just easier.

I did have a problem with Grey Worm going in, if only because it seems like a mistake to send one of your top commanders into a potential ambush in which he's horribly outnumbered and is certain to die if caught... except that's the exact strategy Dany employed in Yunkai, so maybe she's feeling pretty good about sending the top guys to the front lines. And I suppose when you need a stirring speech, better to send in a trained actor than some random extra.

 

[Snock514]

Cersei's character seems to have run its course. Perhaps next on the chopping block? Suicide, maybe?

yes please

 

[smackababy]

So, in the scene at Caster's cottage the woman tells everyone that she is holding Caster's last baby, which must be given to the white walkers. But we know that is not true, there is another baby, the one that Sam just put in that town near the wall. So, maybe we are going to see the white walkers march on that town?

Hadn't they already one that once and Sam put an end to the white?

I did have a problem with Grey Worm going in, if only because it seems like a mistake to send one of your top commanders into a potential ambush in which he's horribly outnumbered and is certain to die if caught... except that's the exact strategy Dany employed in Yunkai, so maybe she's feeling pretty good about sending the top guys to the front lines. And I suppose when you need a stirring speech, better to send in a trained actor than some random extra.

This is one of the reason. I felt it worked to get the slaves to revolt, however, sending in your general on a suicide mission is pretty ridiculous. Minor spoiler, but nothing especially major:

Spoiler

It was different in the books, as they attempted to besiege the castle, and some other story stuff happened that made her send two other people on the suicide mission as a chance to regain her trust. This also leads to further story lines later on, which are major and one has to happen. Sending Grey Worm completely changes the dynamics of the Mereen stuff and further character storylines.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

This is one of the reason. I felt it worked to get the slaves to revolt, however, sending in your general on a suicide mission is pretty ridiculous. Minor spoiler, but nothing especially major:

Spoiler

It was different in the books, as they attempted to besiege the castle, and some other story stuff happened that made her send two other people on the suicide mission as a chance to regain her trust. This also leads to further story lines later on, which are major and one has to happen. Sending Grey Worm completely changes the dynamics of the Mereen stuff and further character storylines.

I have no problem with them changing book stuff as needed to make the story more adaptable to a television series. I watch with a couple people who have read the books (I haven't), and they told me

Spoiler

that they're now basically in the same boat as me, because the TV version is getting so divergent from the books that they literally don't know what will happen next

. I don't care about the content of the books, as the show stands up on its own without it.

 

[JEDI]

Tyrions trial prediction:
1) he's found guilty
2) Tyrion chooses his sellsword as his champion for trial by combat.
3) Tywin chooses Jamie (leader of the king's guard) to represent the empire.

Jamie and the sellsword fight for real.

And the winner is?

edit:
and I wonder how Jamie will explain his missing Valarian sword?

 

[sactoking]

Tyrions trial prediction:
1) he's found guilty
2) Tyrion chooses his sellsword as his champion for trial by combat.
3) Tywin chooses Jamie (leader of the king's guard) to represent the empire.

Jamie and the sellsword fight for real.

And the winner is?

If he's found guilty pursuant to speculation point #1 I assume you mean guilty by trial of 3 judges. If that's the case, he cannot then elect trial by combat. He can elect a trial or trial by combat but not both. This is the right he exercised in the Eyrie when he was informed that he would be tried by the Arryn child, he elected trial by combat instead (since the knew the kid was insane and would convict him) and Bronn stepped in to fight for him since Jaime wasn't there.

 

[Imported]

I'd say Jaime gets picked by Tyrion and not Bronn.. but then again maybe its the other way around. Atleast we know Bronn would defeat Jaime or so it seems from their training sessions.

 

[Anubis]

theres no way tywin picks a 1 handed jamie
also they show has told you who the 2 will be already if you have been paying attention
and thats not a book spolier i havent read them.

 

[smackababy]

I'd say Jaime gets picked by Tyrion and not Bronn.. but then again maybe its the other way around. Atleast we know Bronn would defeat Jaime or so it seems from their training sessions.

Jaime has admitted to Tyrion that he can no longer fight though, so why would he pick him.

 

[zinfamous]

The siege or Mereen was a bit of a let down as well. I was hoping for longer than 30 seconds.

I was thinking this at first, but I'm OK with it because the less time devoted to a drawn out battle/siege, the more time they can actually get her story moving, which most seem to agree has been slogging for some time.

So, as a card-carrying member of the "Dany's story has become boring club," I can't rationally complain about the lack of action at this moment, when it actually serves to get her moving along in less time. :\

That, and I imagine they are trimming the budget in any way possible. So, I was fine with what was shown.

 

[zinfamous]

So, in the scene at Caster's cottage the woman tells everyone that she is holding Caster's last baby, which must be given to the white walkers. But we know that is not true, there is another baby, the one that Sam just put in that town near the wall. So, maybe we are going to see the white walkers march on that town?

I wouldn't think the lineage of the baby matters--they just need babies right? but, that's just a guess.

Hadn't they already one that once and Sam put an end to the white?

say wut? :hmm:

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I haven't read any of them, but it was my understanding that the books were told from a couple different characters perspectives. If that's the case, I'm curious how they handled the last Craster baby white walker conversion scene?

 

[zinfamous]

I'd say Jaime gets picked by Tyrion and not Bronn.. but then again maybe its the other way around. Atleast we know Bronn would defeat Jaime or so it seems from their training sessions.

theres no way tywin picks a 1 handed jamie
also they show has told you who the 2 will be already if you have been paying attention
and thats not a book spolier i havent read them.

Jaime has admitted to Tyrion that he can no longer fight though, so why would he pick him.

I think this would actually be an interesting development, but as sactoking mentioned, there will be no trial by combat if the court happens--and it seems as though it will?

...unless Tyrion is convinced that he will be screwed in the trial and opts for combat. I'm not sure if he will be screwed, however (or at least convinced that he will be screwed--He might trust Horny prince, even though he realizes his father asked him on the court as part of an alliance, but perhaps not fully aware of the details of their alliance).

Jamie has offered to help him in any way that he can, so I do feel that he will be prominent in the outcome of the trial.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Jaime has admitted to Tyrion that he can no longer fight though, so why would he pick him.

Because Tywin and Cersei both have a vested interest in seeing Jaime alive and subsequently wouldn't nominate a champion that would actually kill him? That seems like it would be a pretty good move on Tyrion's part, actually, since the people trying him would immediately look to throw the battle so as not to kill a favorite family member.