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Game of Thrones DVD...must be a bad joke.

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Mike Gayner said:
I don't think you have studied economics. Anyone who had studied economics would tell you that saying something is worth "what it costs, plus a SMALL markup" is a value judgement, which serves no purpose in economics. Moreover, the word "sustainable" has no cohesive meaning in that silly diatribe.

I think you're a liar. And a stupid one.
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And economists base their work on the idea of a 'rational self-actor', which most humans (or other animals) aren't. That ALSO makes a value judgement, and one which is proved untrue in overwhelming research. They also fail to take into account human nature or countless other factors which have proved the central focus of economics in practice, but elude ivory tower theoreticians to this day.

I think you're an idiot. Now where are we.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
If you're an HBO subscriber, you can access any of their shows online via HBOGO. Yes, it's slightly more of a pain in the ass than just going through Comcast On Demand, but it's available, plus every other show HBO has ever done (which means fuck paying for The Sopranos, Band of Brothers, The Wire, True Blood, Entourage, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Rome, Deadwood, Eastbound and Down, Carnivale, Flight of the Conchords, Oz, etc.)... But, yeah, dick move to pull them from the On Demand.



Well, first of all... the Blu-ray came out in 2008, roughly 7 years after the series aired and 6 years after the original DVD boxset came out. And $35... well, that's just plain retarded. The MSRP is STILL listed at $99.99 (which, obviously, no one pays) and Amazon is selling it at $48.60 at the exact time I write this post. You CANNOT compare individual deals on random days to the MSRP of an unreleased item. It is complete bullshit to say "Oh, there was a deal, with manufacturer's coupons and a day and date release of BoB, that made it go from $99.99 to $34.99, so it's ridiculous that an unsubstantiated rumor suggests that the MSRP for GoT is going to be $79.98." Are you fucking kidding me? Jesus tits, even Amazon has it listed at $54.99 if you pre-order now, which is $25 less than you idiots are proclaiming is some end-of-the-world nonsense; have you honestly never see pre-release pricing before?
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yeah...I don't care. at Amazon, it's 48.70 or whatever. I, and many others, had it delivered to our doors day of release, from Amazon, for $35, on BD.

even at the current price for the BD--$48.70, 3 years after release, it still baffles me that the DVD's were upwards of $90 for six years.

Makes no fucking sense. that was my larger point.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
If you're an HBO subscriber, you can access any of their shows online via HBOGO. Yes, it's slightly more of a pain in the ass than just going through Comcast On Demand, but it's available, plus every other show HBO has ever done (which means fuck paying for The Sopranos, Band of Brothers, The Wire, True Blood, Entourage, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Rome, Deadwood, Eastbound and Down, Carnivale, Flight of the Conchords, Oz, etc.)... But, yeah, dick move to pull them from the On Demand.



Well, first of all... the Blu-ray came out in 2008, roughly 7 years after the series aired and 6 years after the original DVD boxset came out. And $35... well, that's just plain retarded. The MSRP is STILL listed at $99.99 (which, obviously, no one pays) and Amazon is selling it at $48.60 at the exact time I write this post. You CANNOT compare individual deals on random days to the MSRP of an unreleased item. It is complete bullshit to say "Oh, there was a deal, with manufacturer's coupons and a day and date release of BoB, that made it go from $99.99 to $34.99, so it's ridiculous that an unsubstantiated rumor suggests that the MSRP for GoT is going to be $79.98." Are you fucking kidding me? Jesus tits, even Amazon has it listed at $54.99 if you pre-order now, which is $25 less than you idiots are proclaiming is some end-of-the-world nonsense; have you honestly never see pre-release pricing before?
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What kind of quality do people want? HBO is a premium channel - they spend the most, and every year win the most Emmy awards for it.

One of the most expensive ever was Rome:

"Towards that end, the two networks committed a US$100–110 million (£62.7 million) budget to the production of twelve 1-hour episodes, with HBO contributing $85 million, and the BBC contributing $15 million.[3] The BBC contributed £800,000 to every episode of Rome in its first season."

Several other HBO Series as well cost a ton, and were critically acclaimed.

If you don't want that expensive type of show, there's network television.

If you don't want that, there's basic cable - 'Judge Judy', 'Steve Wilkos' type shows.

I like that HBO is making great series.

Same thing applies to, say, computer games. There are great quality games and they cost a lot to make, and there are 'casual games' of a lot lower budget.

One of the downsides of Steam is the downward pressure on prices; the fewer people who will buy a premium title at $60, the lower the budgets and fewer the games.
 
HBO thinks its worth $50. If people don't pay $50, HBO will lower the price.

Or we can gather a few thousand people and go sit in front of HBO's offices and bitch about being asked (not forced) to pay $50 for 8 or so hours of entertainment.
 
PrinceofWands said:
Most series that I've picked up have been $25-35 for a season...of 20-24 episodes. It's common to find them at $15-20/season, even for sci-fi and other high budget shows (220+ episodes of SG1 ran me less than $200 new). It usually works out to $1-2/episode. That gives GoT a worth of about $10-20 per 'season', sticking with industry standards.
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HBO stuff costs A LOT more to make than SG1

i heard Rome was like $125 million per season
 
They see it this way: "It's a 5-disc set, and we're only charging slightly more than $10 per disc. This is a great deal because normally you have to pay $20 per disc!"

I see they dropped the price. $30 for a season of TV that you love doesn't seem too bad.
 
It's well made. I'd rather pay $80 for one well made show, then shell out $xxx.xx monthly to have a cable line up full of shit.
 
Hmm I already pre-ordered it at $45. I don't like paying more than $2-3 per HD episode (including Blu-Ray), but I wanted to support the show.

Anyway... Amazon has the pre-order price guarantee, but the last time that happened, I think they actually charged me the ordered price, and then refunded me the difference?

Yeah, I found an example with Back to the Future (Blu-Ray):

Greetings from Amazon.com.

We're writing to let you know we processed your refund of $2.00 for your Order <removed>.

This refund is for the following item(s):

Item: Back to the Future: 25th Anniversary Trilogy (+ Digital Copy) [Blu-ray]
Quantity: 1
ASIN: B00198X0UO
Reason for refund: Pre-order price protection

Here's a the breakdown of your refund for this item:

Item Refund: $2.00
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I think I'll just cancel my original order and order it again. I don't like the hassle of refunds.
 
YAY! At $30 it's worth considering. Still high, but not so high that it's morally offensive. Will likely watch for a $20-25 special before I bite, but at least it shows some semblance of reason on their part.
 
PrinceofWands said:
YAY! At $30 it's worth considering. Still high, but not so high that it's morally offensive. Will likely watch for a $20-25 special before I bite, but at least it shows some semblance of reason on their part.
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All that pissing and moaning was for naught... what were the odds.
 
PrinceofWands said:
YAY! At $30 it's worth considering. Still high, but not so high that it's morally offensive. Will likely watch for a $20-25 special before I bite, but at least it shows some semblance of reason on their part.
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Sounds like market adjustment working as intended.
 
The cost is actually higher per episode because it's impossible to stay awake for the first three shows. I don't count those but $30 is reasonable regardless.
 
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