Gallup: half of conservatives upbeat on Obama Presidency

jonks

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/111...s-Confident-Obama.aspx

Lots of interesting numbers here.

45% of conservatives think Obama will be a good president. (88% of libs, no surprise)

75% of 18-29 year olds think Obama will be a good president. 60% of 30 and overs agree.

With all this good feeling comes a lot of expectations, many of which cannot be met, so what I expect to hear from the admin in the near term is a lot of expectation management peppered with optimism.

But for now, dude has a lot of political capital.
 

spidey07

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Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.
 

Moonbeam

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We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.

Bush's approval ratings went into the stratosphere only after 9/11. Before then he tried to reach across the aisle after the Florida debacle. But he was still lazy considering how many vacations he went on before 9/11.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

Nevermind him. He just likes to babble long enough to hope something halfway smart-sounding comes out.
 

Mani

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Not surprising. Most people regardless of political affiliation can spot a "doer". Obama ran a masterful campaign and clearly has the intellect and understanding it takes. The question is how much power he has to really dig us out of what is most definitely the deepest hole we've been in since the GD.
 

evident

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: spidey07
Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.

Bush's approval ratings went into the stratosphere only after 9/11. Before then he tried to reach across the aisle after the Florida debacle. But he was still lazy considering how many vacations he went on before 9/11.

he shouldnt of invaded iraq... if they just got the "mission accomplished" in afghanistan his ratings would probably still be through the roof
 

techs

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I must say, Obama has handled the period between the election and inauguration, at least up to now, brilliantly.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.

What?
 

jpetermann

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I am a conservative, and a Christian, and I know this will shock many, but I am pretty optimistic about our president-elect. Though I would not stand on the same side with him on some social issues, I do believe he will bring about some needed change for our country and hopefully bring some dignity and respect back to our country and the office he will hold.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: spidey07
Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.

What?

hehe
 

Deliximus

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Obama's transition team has been doing a marvelous job thus far (despite only been 10 days) in not overstepping their bounds. I love today's comment by the French President towards Putin regarding Bush. LOL
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

You should understand that the reason nobody knows anything is because the truth is protected by a powerful unconscious motivation not to confront it. That is why myth alludes to the concept of a hero, a person who, in pursuit, say of the golden fleece or some such other metaphor for truth, has to run some sort of test or feats of accomplishment others are incapable of. For example, the shield is used as a mirror to see a monster that turns people to stone. That is a symbol, an archetypal reference to the fact that a face to face confrontation with reality, how you really feel, would be impossible without a mirror, something to show you who you really are, something that can render the monster you feel you are safe enough to begin to deal with.

So when people are told the truth, they can't believe it. They don't have the capacity, the understanding, or the experience and exposure to do so. Instead, like you, people block further thought by ridicule and confusion. Only the hero goes straight ahead. He is tremendously driven and can't turn back. He takes a road that leads down into hell, but comes back with eternal life. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

Nevermind him. He just likes to babble long enough to hope something halfway smart-sounding comes out.

You were made to feel stupid. That's why smart seems important to you. I know I'm stupid, which, of course, makes me smarter than you.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

Nevermind him. He just likes to babble long enough to hope something halfway smart-sounding comes out.

You were made to feel stupid. That's why smart seems important to you. I know I'm stupid, which, of course, makes me smarter than you.

Ouch, that hurt all the way over here. :)
 

Siddhartha

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The best thing Mr Obama can do is to communicate with the country about expectations, set goals, and explain plans on how to get there. He needs to publish upfront his list of priorties, what it would take and the level of difficulty to achieve each goal.

He could do quarterly or monthly fireside talks, like FDR, and discuss the status and next steps for each goal.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The best thing Mr Obama can do is to communicate with the country about expectations, set goals, and explain plans on how to get there. He needs to publish upfront his list of priorties, what it would take and the level of difficulty to achieve each goal.

He could do quarterly or monthly fireside talks, like FDR, and discuss the status and next steps for each goal.

He's planning on doing weekly YouTube clips. FDR = PWNED.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: jonks
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111...s-Confident-Obama.aspx

Lots of interesting numbers here.

45% of conservatives think Obama will be a good president. (88% of libs, no surprise)

75% of 18-29 year olds think Obama will be a good president. 60% of 30 and overs agree.

With all this good feeling comes a lot of expectations, many of which cannot be met, so what I expect to hear from the admin in the near term is a lot of expectation management peppered with optimism.

But for now, dude has a lot of political capital.

I wouldn't say so much capital as a honeymoon or grace period.

As for this conservative, while no Obama supporter.
I hope he has a successful presidency for the sake of the country not for the sake of an ideology.
And like many Conservatives as opposed to an optomistic sense, have a lets watch and see what develops sense about it.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:
:music:
Purple haze all in my brain
Lately things just dont seem the same
Actin funny, but I dont know why
scuse me while I kiss the sky
Purple haze all around
Dont know if Im comin up or down :music:

Maybe this will help you understand his post.



 

the unknown

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

You should understand that the reason nobody knows anything is because the truth is protected by a powerful unconscious motivation not to confront it. That is why myth alludes to the concept of a hero, a person who, in pursuit, say of the golden fleece or some such other metaphor for truth, has to run some sort of test or feats of accomplishment others are incapable of. For example, the shield is used as a mirror to see a monster that turns people to stone. That is a symbol, an archetypal reference to the fact that a face to face confrontation with reality, how you really feel, would be impossible without a mirror, something to show you who you really are, something that can render the monster you feel you are safe enough to begin to deal with.

So when people are told the truth, they can't believe it. They don't have the capacity, the understanding, or the experience and exposure to do so. Instead, like you, people block further thought by ridicule and confusion. Only the hero goes straight ahead. He is tremendously driven and can't turn back. He takes a road that leads down into hell, but comes back with eternal life. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

What a joke. There's no substance in what you're saying. It's like you found some program where you enter a few key words and it churns out some phrases that you piece together.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You were made to feel stupid. That's why smart seems important to you. I know I'm stupid, which, of course, makes me smarter than you.
With a strange complex to feel the need to talk down to people.

Anyways, I for one have a theory that Obama can meet most of his expectations if he manages to get Osama bin Laden's head. It will instantly legitimize his early Presidency and from there he can really get things going. Running for a second term will be a cake walk after that. Because everything else he has to fix is simply going to take more time to produce results than most average Americans will probably tolerate.
 

Infohawk

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I don't care what half of conservatives or half of Americans think. The average person is a moron. The kind of moron who thought Bush was a good candidate and that the Iraq war was even remotely a good idea.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: the unknown
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

You should understand that the reason nobody knows anything is because the truth is protected by a powerful unconscious motivation not to confront it. That is why myth alludes to the concept of a hero, a person who, in pursuit, say of the golden fleece or some such other metaphor for truth, has to run some sort of test or feats of accomplishment others are incapable of. For example, the shield is used as a mirror to see a monster that turns people to stone. That is a symbol, an archetypal reference to the fact that a face to face confrontation with reality, how you really feel, would be impossible without a mirror, something to show you who you really are, something that can render the monster you feel you are safe enough to begin to deal with.

So when people are told the truth, they can't believe it. They don't have the capacity, the understanding, or the experience and exposure to do so. Instead, like you, people block further thought by ridicule and confusion. Only the hero goes straight ahead. He is tremendously driven and can't turn back. He takes a road that leads down into hell, but comes back with eternal life. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

What a joke. There's no substance in what you're saying. It's like you found some program where you enter a few key words and it churns out some phrases that you piece together.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You were made to feel stupid. That's why smart seems important to you. I know I'm stupid, which, of course, makes me smarter than you.
With a strange complex to feel the need to talk down to people.

Anyways, I for one have a theory that Obama can meet most of his expectations if he manages to get Osama bin Laden's head. It will instantly legitimize his early Presidency and from there he can really get things going. Running for a second term will be a cake walk after that. Because everything else he has to fix is simply going to take more time to produce results than most average Americans will probably tolerate.

It is. You should explain it to me.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: the unknown
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We had infinite hope as children before we were destroyed. That is why we can never feel hope again. We don't want to remember our pain.

What? :confused:

You should understand that the reason nobody knows anything is because the truth is protected by a powerful unconscious motivation not to confront it. That is why myth alludes to the concept of a hero, a person who, in pursuit, say of the golden fleece or some such other metaphor for truth, has to run some sort of test or feats of accomplishment others are incapable of. For example, the shield is used as a mirror to see a monster that turns people to stone. That is a symbol, an archetypal reference to the fact that a face to face confrontation with reality, how you really feel, would be impossible without a mirror, something to show you who you really are, something that can render the monster you feel you are safe enough to begin to deal with.

So when people are told the truth, they can't believe it. They don't have the capacity, the understanding, or the experience and exposure to do so. Instead, like you, people block further thought by ridicule and confusion. Only the hero goes straight ahead. He is tremendously driven and can't turn back. He takes a road that leads down into hell, but comes back with eternal life. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

What a joke. There's no substance in what you're saying. It's like you found some program where you enter a few key words and it churns out some phrases that you piece together.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You were made to feel stupid. That's why smart seems important to you. I know I'm stupid, which, of course, makes me smarter than you.
With a strange complex to feel the need to talk down to people.

Anyways, I for one have a theory that Obama can meet most of his expectations if he manages to get Osama bin Laden's head. It will instantly legitimize his early Presidency and from there he can really get things going. Running for a second term will be a cake walk after that. Because everything else he has to fix is simply going to take more time to produce results than most average Americans will probably tolerate.

There is no substance to what I said for you because it was pearls before swine.