Galaxy tab price fail

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AstroManLuca

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AT&T's $15-$25 data plan is an unsubsidized price data plan, there's no way the data plans for the Tab will be this cheap.

I suspect a $30 plan will be the minimum data plan and that's tiered, not unlimited...

Yeah, I was being charitable. Even if it had the exact same data plan options as the iPad, simply being on a contract rather than month-to-month makes the Tab's plans less compelling.

As for what the plans end up being, well... we'll just have to wait and see. And there are differences in carriers you know. Verizon says they want to go tiered, but they haven't yet. It's likely they will before the Tab is launched so you might see something like what AT&T has. A Sprint Galaxy Tab would have "unlimited" (5 GB) for $30 if it follows Sprint's usual pricing.
 

Pliablemoose

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$599 unsubsidized from Verizon 1GB data/month for $20.


Verizon Wireless Puts Samsung Galaxy Tab™ in Stores in November

BASKING RIDGE, N.J., and DALLAS, Oct. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless and Samsung Telecommunications America (Samsung Mobile) today announced the highly anticipated Samsung Galaxy Tab™ will be available Nov. 11 for $599.99. Running on Android™ 2.2, the Samsung Galaxy Tab features a brilliant 7-inch touch screen; robust HTML Web browsing experience with full support for Adobe® Flash® 10.1 for video and mobile gaming; and a 1GHz Cortex A8 Hummingbird Application processor.

Verizon Wireless customers can add a monthly access plan beginning at $20 a month for 1 GB on their Samsung Galaxy Tab. For additional features and specifications on the Samsung Galaxy Tab, visit www.verizonwireless.com/galaxytab.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/verizon-to-sell-galaxy-tab-starting-november-11-for-600-world/

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/samsung/tablet/

LOL, this thread was pretty accurate for being a month old :)

Also, I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but I wonder if Apple & Verizon's recent collaboration & likely agreement to put the iPhone on Verizon's network had anything to do with the way it's sold on Verizon... Although, I think a 2 year contract on a tablet data plan would be crazy...
 
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Phobic9

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$600 for the Galaxy Tab? Granted I have a 32GB 3G iPad but I was thinking it would've been much cheaper for the Samsung tablet. Guess not.

Edit: And why the hell is Verizon still putting Blockbuster on their Android devices? Yes I know all about rooting and all that but seriously, what the hell?
 
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Pliablemoose

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$600 for the Galaxy Tab? Granted I have a 32GB 3G iPad but I was thinking it would've been much cheaper for the Samsung tablet. Guess not.

Edit: And why the hell is Verizon still putting Blockbuster on their Android devices? Yes I know all about rooting and all that but seriously, what the hell?

It doesn't sound so bad till you put a 7" tablet next to a 10" tablet and remember that a diagonal measurement requires you to do some math to figure out square inches to make sense out of the measurements...

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I also agree with Jobs that a 7" tablet, particularly running Froyo is a mess...

A 7" Gingerbread tablet for $300 I'd consider, Froyo for $600 is just stupid

A gen II iPad will likely have cameras, and hold the price point, and they'll likely drop the gen I prices by a hundred bucks if they don't just kill production of the gen I's. The refurbs are already competitively priced.
 
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tfinch2

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I bought my iPad to hold me over until I could get a good Android tablet for a decent price. Still waiting...
 

ponyo

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I'll wait til they hack it so it can send and receive calls. If sales disappoint, maybe they will discount the price as well. This needed to be sold at $399 tops to had any chance. $299 would have been killer and could have put a hurt on iPad sales. At $599, it makes no sense except for gadget freaks and extreme Apple haters.
 

MrX8503

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Another problem I see with this device is that its incredibly narrow. Its a 16:9 screen?

Its too narrow in portrait mode to browse the internet and its to short in landscape mode. All the 16:9 is good for is watching movies.

If this device was 10"+, it could probably get away with a 16:9 screen. I think the perfect spot would be a 16:10 screen.
 

Bateluer

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Sure, if by "pretty accurate" you mean "completely wrong". The $1000 figure was obvious nonsense, and y'all fell for it big time.

But, it still fails for having a 600 dollar price tag. :p

I'd be interested in this device at a 300-400 dollar price tag, it is competing with the same market as the netbook, after all. It should be priced accordingly.
 

Pliablemoose

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Sure, if by "pretty accurate" you mean "completely wrong". The $1000 figure was obvious nonsense, and y'all fell for it big time.

There was significant pressure on Samsung to reduce the price, they're still screwing everyone...
 

Deeko

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I don't understand.

This thread started by saying it would be $1000. People said the unsubsidized price is too high, it should be in the $500-$600 range. Now, we've caught wind of the Verizon version being $599 with a reasonably priced, no contract data plan, and Sprint being $559.

I still consider this price point to be too high, I've called the iPad overpriced many times. However, there are those here that say the iPad's price is fine, and that we won't see a similarly-specced Android tablet for any cheaper. The Tab clearly fits that mold. Its cheaper than the 16GB iPad, albeit not by much. Yet people are still in lolz@samsung mode.

Whether you think Froyo is tablet-ready compared to iOS is an entirely different question, but people seem to have gotten what they "wanted", and yet their opinion remains the same. Why? If you ask me, people just don't like the Tab, either because they're jaded against Samsung's Android offerings, or they're just pro-Apple, or what. That's fine. You don't have to like the product. It just seems strange to me that its priced in the range people say is fair, and yet they're still coming in here screaming that its overpriced.
 

ponyo

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For me it's too high because US carriers had Samsung remove the phone capability. I want the option to take the sim card from my Galaxy S phone and be able to use it on the Galaxy Tab as a larger phone. If I can do that or the XDA guys figure out a way, I've no problem paying $599 for this device even with the TFT screen.
 

Narmer

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I don't understand.

This thread started by saying it would be $1000. People said the unsubsidized price is too high, it should be in the $500-$600 range. Now, we've caught wind of the Verizon version being $599 with a reasonably priced, no contract data plan, and Sprint being $559.

I still consider this price point to be too high, I've called the iPad overpriced many times. However, there are those here that say the iPad's price is fine, and that we won't see a similarly-specced Android tablet for any cheaper. The Tab clearly fits that mold. Its cheaper than the 16GB iPad, albeit not by much. Yet people are still in lolz@samsung mode.

Whether you think Froyo is tablet-ready compared to iOS is an entirely different question, but people seem to have gotten what they "wanted", and yet their opinion remains the same. Why? If you ask me, people just don't like the Tab, either because they're jaded against Samsung's Android offerings, or they're just pro-Apple, or what. That's fine. You don't have to like the product. It just seems strange to me that its priced in the range people say is fair, and yet they're still coming in here screaming that its overpriced.
$1000 was the price in Australian dollars, not American. It came out to around $700. Many considered that too high. Now they want to charge $600 for a smaller screen, unoptimized (according to Google) OS with garbage software from the likes of Samsung and Verizon (lol) and you have complete fail in the making. Samsung thinks their brand is worth the money (it isn't).
 

Deeko

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$1000 was the price in Australian dollars, not American. It came out to around $700. Many considered that too high. Now they want to charge $600 for a smaller screen, unoptimized (according to Google) OS with garbage software from the likes of Samsung and Verizon (lol) and you have complete fail in the making. Samsung thinks their brand is worth the money (it isn't).

The Australian dollar is worth 0.98785 USD according to the internet. So $1000AUD isn't that far off.

My point is that in the beginning of this thread, people said "OMGZ $1000! Too expensive! It should be $500-$600!" and now it is. Yet people are now saying "OMGZ too expensive! it should be $300-$400!"

I get the feeling these people are going to lash out at the Tab no matter what its price, is my point.
 

Narmer

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The Australian dollar is worth 0.98785 USD according to the internet. So $1000AUD isn't that far off.

My point is that in the beginning of this thread, people said "OMGZ $1000! Too expensive! It should be $500-$600!" and now it is. Yet people are now saying "OMGZ too expensive! it should be $300-$400!"

I get the feeling these people are going to lash out at the Tab no matter what its price, is my point.
Sorry, I confused the Australian with some of the Euro prices. You're right. Maybe people just don't like Samsung because they're a "me-too" company. They don't even have this product well-thought out yet. No ecosystem, no innovation, no nothing. Just a cheap answer to an iPad that's Apple's been working on for years. Worse, it's inferior in almost every way. I can't think of a single reason to get this Galaxy Tab.
 

Oyeve

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The Australian dollar is worth 0.98785 USD according to the internet. So $1000AUD isn't that far off.

My point is that in the beginning of this thread, people said "OMGZ $1000! Too expensive! It should be $500-$600!" and now it is. Yet people are now saying "OMGZ too expensive! it should be $300-$400!"

I get the feeling these people are going to lash out at the Tab no matter what its price, is my point.

Those people must be iTools. I am very interested in this product as its not too big and not too small. I couldn't care less about cell phone use as I have a proper cell phone and landline.
 

zerocool84

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Editorial: Why the Galaxy Tab's price makes sense

Alright, I was wrong. On the Engadget Podcast I said that Samsung is capable of navigating to store.apple.com and checking out the iPad prices. I figured Samsung would see $500 as its maximum unsubsidized price for the Galaxy Tab, but apparently Samsung decided its competition was the iPad with 3G. Is a $600 Galaxy Tab a compelling offering up against a $630 3G iPad? Maybe, maybe not. But it's not an insane proposition by any means. In fact, I think it could do pretty well.

I seem to be somewhat in the minority on this point (if Twitter's reaction to the price is any indication of the majority). Certainly Steve Jobs takes issue with the value proposition a 7-inch tablet, and would perhaps be as flippant of the price as many of my esteemed Twitter-friends. But am I crazy? Have I lost my mind? Has Samsung sucked me in with its unstoppable PR machine and ground me into a Tab believer? Perhaps, but let's look at the facts before we get all hyperbolic:
$600 is less than $630. Crazy, I know, but it's true. Samsung is at a distinct disadvantage in not having a 3G-free version of the Tab to compete with Apple's $500 WiFi-only iPad (probably because Google wouldn't give it Market access if they tried), but that doesn't preclude competition in the higher-end, 3G-included space with a cheaper product.

7-inches isn't necessarily cheaper than 10-inches. Smartphones cost around $500 to $600 unsubsidized, despite their much smaller screens. It's a well known fact that smaller components aren't necessarily cheaper than large ones -- in fact, they're often more expensive. Of course, this doesn't mean much to a consumer: they see a tablet that's half the size (in overall screen area) of its competitor and they'll probably expect it to be half the cost. Still, it's worth pointing out, and as we get used to this odd space between laptops and phones, we're all probably going to get better acquainted with the way these prices work.

The Tab offers some compelling differences and advantages over the iPad. It runs Android, which for some people is reason enough, based on UI or app selection preference. It also means that the Tab has turn-by-turn directions out of the box that are substantially better than Apple's offering. While the screen is smaller, it's also higher in pixel density, a boon for reading. It's smaller, which means it's easier to bring along than the nearly laptop-sized iPad. It has two cameras, the iPad has none.

At the end of the day I think the iPad will absolutely outsell the Galaxy Tab, probably in 3G models alone. The iPad UI, at least with multitasking, is much better optimized for a tablet, and the developer community has embraced the iPad like few products before it. In a vacuum I think the Galaxy Tab would be well received, but the Galaxy Tab won't exist in a vacuum, obviously. Still, Samsung has been relieved of the task of creating desire or reasoning in customers for a tablet computer -- the iPad already accomplished that hard task -- and Samsung stands to reap the benefits. Whether it be Kindle users looking to "upgrade" to color, or Android users looking for a familiar experience in a tablet, I think there's a market for the Tab, and its $600 pricetag is merely a burden, not a death sentence.

I think he makes some good and bad arguments.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/editorial-why-the-galaxy-tabs-price-makes-sense/
 

kaerflog

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I might be in the minority but I like the 7" inch form factor than Apple 10".
I like the fact that I can grip it one handed vertically.
The resolution of 1024x600 is not that far off Apple's 1024x760.
If I can browse the net with my HD2 and its 800x480 comfortably, the Galaxy resolution will be more than enough.
The problem is 2.2 aren't made for tablets which would be the main reason why I wouldn't want one right now.
I was going to get one if Tmobile had subsidized this low enough but its way too high for me.
I'll wait till the next generation tablets.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Sorry, I confused the Australian with some of the Euro prices. You're right. Maybe people just don't like Samsung because they're a "me-too" company. They don't even have this product well-thought out yet. No ecosystem, no innovation, no nothing. Just a cheap answer to an iPad that's Apple's been working on for years. Worse, it's inferior in almost every way. I can't think of a single reason to get this Galaxy Tab.

How is it inferior in almost every way? They have the same cpu, the Tab has a faster gpu, the Tab has twice as much ram, the Tab has a higher dpi screen, and the Tab is available on better networks than AT&T.

Oh the tab also supports Flash and multitasking.
 

ponyo

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How is it inferior in almost every way? They have the same cpu, the Tab has a faster gpu, the Tab has twice as much ram, the Tab has a higher dpi screen, and the Tab is available on better networks than AT&T.

Oh the tab also supports Flash and multitasking.

He's just Samsung hater. Kind of like Apple hater but goofier.