Galaxy tab price fail

[Deeko]

There are Windows 7 tablets that do real web browsing. The problem is right now there are two approaches - slim down a netbook, or expand a smartphone. Neither is really the ideal solution to the problem.

 

[Narmer]

There are Windows 7 tablets that do real web browsing. The problem is right now there are two approaches - slim down a netbook, or expand a smartphone. Neither is really the ideal solution to the problem.

What is the problem, in your opinion?

 

[Deeko]

What is the problem, in your opinion?

The "big smartphone" form factor doesn't do as much (as MrX pointed out, web browsing is still not desktop quality), whereas the slimmed down desktop doesn't have an interface optimized for finger-based touch.

 

[MrX8503]

Yeah, what I want is the form factor of the iPad, but with a desktop browsing experience. I envision a tablet mainly as a consume device rather than a creation one. That is my preference anyway so I probably won't get a tablet until that happens.

 

[phexac]

This is quite sad, but all the Android tablets that I've heard about so far actually make the iPad look good And I actually have the Samsung Captivate and like it outside of the absurd GPS situation. I would LOVE a 10" or so fully-functional android tablet with iPad-like battery life. Does not look like that's in the cards so far.

And going back to the GPS issue, Samsung's terrible handling of the matter (still not handled, and basically ignored) makes me disinclined to buy a product of this type from them in the future.

 

[zerocool84]

This is quite sad, but all the Android tablets that I've heard about so far actually make the iPad look good And I actually have the Samsung Captivate and like it outside of the absurd GPS situation. I would LOVE a 10" or so fully-functional android tablet with iPad-like battery life. Does not look like that's in the cards so far.

And going back to the GPS issue, Samsung's terrible handling of the matter (still not handled, and basically ignored) makes me disinclined to buy a product of this type from them in the future.

You just gotta give them time. By next year we'll have some good Android tablets.

 

[electroju]

It seem people do not do a lot of research about tablet PC or they are too keen to eye candy, so they ditch one tablet PC and go on to the next. There are three good tablet PC that competes against the iPad. The Archos 101 is one of them and only of the three to provide a near 10 inch screen. Its main feature is as being a portable media player. The other tablet PC is Samsung Galaxy Tab. It is portable player and it has codecs that are not default for the Archos 101. The Galaxy Tab has two cameras for web conferencing and for taking snap shots. It also has 3G and GPS. It has a lot of bell and whistles, so the cost is reasonable. The only problem with the Galaxy Tab is Samsung pushes you to access their network for applications, so you will need 3G. The third tablet PC is a Blackberry PlayBook. This is probably the best of all them, but it does not have 3G and it has limited codec support. The Galaxy Tab and PlayBook uses a 7 inch screen, but they are easier to fit in your hand compared to larger tablet PC.

I do not think people actually care what OS is in their cell phone, so it is the same thinking on the tablet PC. If it functions for them just nicely, they do not care. Anybody will get use to a interface, so eye candy is not require. Eye candy becomes a requirement when idiots prefer it over functionality.

The Samsung Galaxy Tab does not fail on the price for the amount of features it contains. FYI, tablet PC are still as complex as a notebook and desktop, so the price is expensive.

 

[Commodus]

It seem people do not do a lot of research about tablet PC or they are too keen to eye candy, so they ditch one tablet PC and go on to the next. There are three good tablet PC that competes against the iPad. The Archos 101 is one of them and only of the three to provide a near 10 inch screen. Its main feature is as being a portable media player.

The other tablet PC is Samsung Galaxy Tab. It is portable player and it has codecs that are not default for the Archos 101. The Galaxy Tab has two cameras for web conferencing and for taking snap shots. It also has 3G and GPS. It has a lot of bell and whistles, so the cost is reasonable. The only problem with the Galaxy Tab is Samsung pushes you to access their network for applications, so you will need 3G.

The third tablet PC is a Blackberry PlayBook. This is probably the best of all them, but it does not have 3G and it has limited codec support. The Galaxy Tab and PlayBook uses a 7 inch screen, but they are easier to fit in your hand compared to larger tablet PC.

I've used the Archos 101 (I was at the CTIA mobile expo this month) and... no. It feels cheap, and it's not really well-optimized. Classic Archos, stuffing it full of features that make the numbers big but which don't result in a great experience.

The Galaxy Tab doesn't need 3G to get online (it has Wi-Fi), but you won't see a Wi-Fi only version for a little while. And the story goes that it's going to be $499 -- in other words, as much as the bigger Wi-Fi iPad. You get cameras, but I've used the Galaxy Tab: that size makes it feel too much like an oversized smartphone.

And the BlackBerry PlayBook... it's interesting, but it won't ship until around March 2011. It's easy to claim superiority when you're flaunting a device that won't arrive for another five months. By then, we'll probably see the next iPad, with a dual-core processor and likely at least one camera.

 

[Synomenon]

What's the resolution of the iPad and the Galaxy Tab?

 

[MagickMan]

You just gotta give them time. By next year we'll have some good Android tablets.

The new Nook Color looks interesting, especially since it's backed by the second biggest ebook seller. I'm curious about battery life, it's IPS panel, web browsing, and video playback. But, at $250 it might just be a steal.

 

[zerocool84]

The new Nook Color looks interesting, especially since it's backed by the second biggest ebook seller. I'm curious about battery life, it's IPS panel, web browsing, and video playback. But, at $250 it might just be a steal.

I read the hands on and battery life on it sucks and web browsing isn't going to be that good since it's not top of the line hardware. It's an eReader first then everything else second. It's definitely not a tablet replacement.

 

[MrX8503]

It seem people do not do a lot of research about tablet PC or they are too keen to eye candy, so they ditch one tablet PC and go on to the next. There are three good tablet PC that competes against the iPad. The Archos 101 is one of them and only of the three to provide a near 10 inch screen. Its main feature is as being a portable media player. The other tablet PC is Samsung Galaxy Tab. It is portable player and it has codecs that are not default for the Archos 101. The Galaxy Tab has two cameras for web conferencing and for taking snap shots. It also has 3G and GPS. It has a lot of bell and whistles, so the cost is reasonable. The only problem with the Galaxy Tab is Samsung pushes you to access their network for applications, so you will need 3G. The third tablet PC is a Blackberry PlayBook. This is probably the best of all them, but it does not have 3G and it has limited codec support. The Galaxy Tab and PlayBook uses a 7 inch screen, but they are easier to fit in your hand compared to larger tablet PC.

I do not think people actually care what OS is in their cell phone, so it is the same thinking on the tablet PC. If it functions for them just nicely, they do not care. Anybody will get use to a interface, so eye candy is not require. Eye candy becomes a requirement when idiots prefer it over functionality.

The Samsung Galaxy Tab does not fail on the price for the amount of features it contains. FYI, tablet PC are still as complex as a notebook and desktop, so the price is expensive.

I would have to disagree with this 100%. Most consumers may not know the difference as clearly as Windows/Mac OSX on a desktop, but the OS does matter to them in a mobile device.

Also I don't think you can make such comparisons from cellphones to tablets.

As for eye candy, I don't see a problem with wanting both eye candy and functionality. The company that gets that down, beats the competition.

 

[electroju]

I've used the Archos 101 (I was at the CTIA mobile expo this month) and... no. It feels cheap, and it's not really well-optimized. Classic Archos, stuffing it full of features that make the numbers big but which don't result in a great experience.

I did not rave over the Archos 101. Of course anything made using plastic is cheap. It is an option to some people.

The Galaxy Tab doesn't need 3G to get online (it has Wi-Fi), but you won't see a Wi-Fi only version for a little while. And the story goes that it's going to be $499 -- in other words, as much as the bigger Wi-Fi iPad. You get cameras, but I've used the Galaxy Tab: that size makes it feel too much like an oversized smartphone.

I did not say that the Galaxy Tab requires 3G to access the Internet. I said it requires 3G to install additional applications.

And the BlackBerry PlayBook... it's interesting, but it won't ship until around March 2011. It's easy to claim superiority when you're flaunting a device that won't arrive for another five months. By then, we'll probably see the next iPad, with a dual-core processor and likely at least one camera.

Sure I am saying BlackBerry PlayBook is one of the best, I doubt that Apple will introduce another iPad next year with what you say. At this time the iPad requires an add-on to handle SD cards. Also iPad can not handle Flash unless it is jailbreaked. If the iPad is jailbreaked, the warranty is voided.

The three that I suggest are options and they should be treated as capable options. The options that I suggest may be liked even though you do not like it. I do not like Flash, but unfortunately almost all sites uses it and some of the sites require it.

At this time all tablet PC are super sized smartphones. Until tablet PC are categorized as a notebook computer, tablet PC will still be a super sized smartphone.

 

[electroju]

I would have to disagree with this 100%. Most consumers may not know the difference as clearly as Windows/Mac OSX on a desktop, but the OS does matter to them in a mobile device.

From what I learn is that you can not assume that they know what operating system they are using. I do not have a smartphone, but I do not care what operating system my cellphone is using because it functions as a cellphone. If you tell people what operating system their cellphone is using, the so and so operating system does not mean anything to them.

Also I don't think you can make such comparisons from cellphones to tablets.

IMHO, tablets PC should be categorized as a notebook, but it is not. Companies still categorized it as a cell phone or it is suiting its own individual niche market.

As for eye candy, I don't see a problem with wanting both eye candy and functionality. The company that gets that down, beats the competition.

I disagree. The KIS or keep it simple works better than having a lot of bells and whistles. I tried writing a program that did one goal but with a lot of bells and whistles to pretty the goal. It did not work well and it kept on crashing. Then I created a program with the same goal, but being simple to achieve the goal. The simple program worked a lot better than the program with a lot of bells and whistles.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I did not rave over the Archos 101. Of course anything made using plastic is cheap. It is an option to some people.


I did not say that the Galaxy Tab requires 3G to access the Internet. I said it requires 3G to install additional applications.


Sure I am saying BlackBerry PlayBook is one of the best, I doubt that Apple will introduce another iPad next year with what you say. At this time the iPad requires an add-on to handle SD cards. Also iPad can not handle Flash unless it is jailbreaked. If the iPad is jailbreaked, the warranty is voided.

The three that I suggest are options and they should be treated as capable options. The options that I suggest may be liked even though you do not like it. I do not like Flash, but unfortunately almost all sites uses it and some of the sites require it.

At this time all tablet PC are super sized smartphones. Until tablet PC are categorized as a notebook computer, tablet PC will still be a super sized smartphone.

There's just not enough time to explain to you how wrong you are on nearly every point you're trying to make.... I agree that the Arcos is a poor device, beyond that, you're just wrong

 

[s44]

There's just not enough time to explain to you how wrong you are on nearly every point you're trying to make....

Check out his posting history in AVHT... Being wrong about everything isn't new.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://mobile-broadband.t-mobile.com/tablets/tablet

$399 + 2 year contract @ TMobile $200 ETF, $35 activation fee.

 

[MrX8503]

From what I learn is that you can not assume that they know what operating system they are using. I do not have a smartphone, but I do not care what operating system my cellphone is using because it functions as a cellphone. If you tell people what operating system their cellphone is using, the so and so operating system does not mean anything to them.

If you don't have a smartphone, how can you make such an opinion? Thanks to advertising, most consumers know what the iPhone(iOS) and Droid(android) is like without having to know what OS it is. Trust me, the consumers care what OS their phone is running. Smartphones aren't just being used as a phone anymore.

IMHO, tablets PC should be categorized as a notebook, but it is not. Companies still categorized it as a cell phone or it is suiting its own individual niche market.

No they categorize it as a tablet, it's very own market.

I disagree. The KIS or keep it simple works better than having a lot of bells and whistles. I tried writing a program that did one goal but with a lot of bells and whistles to pretty the goal. It did not work well and it kept on crashing. Then I created a program with the same goal, but being simple to achieve the goal. The simple program worked a lot better than the program with a lot of bells and whistles.

Now I'm not questioning your skills, but a talented developer can make a fully functional app with all the bells and whistles. This is the type of app that gets top dollar. It's the difference between a Ferrari and a Honda accord. Functionality is just one part of the whole picture.

 

[Narmer]

I did not rave over the Archos 101. Of course anything made using plastic is cheap. It is an option to some people.


I did not say that the Galaxy Tab requires 3G to access the Internet. I said it requires 3G to install additional applications.


Sure I am saying BlackBerry PlayBook is one of the best, I doubt that Apple will introduce another iPad next year with what you say. At this time the iPad requires an add-on to handle SD cards. Also iPad can not handle Flash unless it is jailbreaked. If the iPad is jailbreaked, the warranty is voided.

The three that I suggest are options and they should be treated as capable options. The options that I suggest may be liked even though you do not like it. I do not like Flash, but unfortunately almost all sites uses it and some of the sites require it.

At this time all tablet PC are super sized smartphones. Until tablet PC are categorized as a notebook computer, tablet PC will still be a super sized smartphone.

That really sucks.

 

[rudeguy]

There's just not enough time to explain to you how wrong you are on nearly every point you're trying to make.... I agree that the Arcos is a poor device, beyond that, you're just wrong

is he trying to say that you need 3g to install apps?

PS: Your Andy still has an owie

 

[Pliablemoose]

is he trying to say that you need 3g to install apps?

PS: Your Andy still has an owie

Heh, you'd never know I use Android phones

The dude is just wrong BTW, data is data, your phone/tablet doesn't care how it gets it...

 

[rudeguy]

Heh, you'd never know I use Android phones

The dude is just wrong BTW, data is data, your phone doesn't care how it gets it...

Poor Andy...

Who is that guy anyways?


To all those reading: Don't listen to anything that guy said. He's wrong. He also kicks stray puppies.

 

[MagickMan]

I read the hands on and battery life on it sucks and web browsing isn't going to be that good since it's not top of the line hardware. It's an eReader first then everything else second. It's definitely not a tablet replacement.

Nook color is powered by a Cortex A8. The rumor is 800MHz. Battery life? 8 Hours continuous use. Meh, that's not too bad.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy...pf_rd_i=301197

$699 TMobile

 

[Narmer]

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy...pf_rd_i=301197

$699 TMobile

Either the joke's on us for thinking these are the final prices or the joke is on Samsung for thinking their tablet is worth that much. After seeing the price dive their galaxy s phones took, I think these tablets will be $200 by christmas.