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dguy6789

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Buttery smooth on Android is one thing. Comparing it to an iPhone is completely different. As for the screen, seeing that your buddy EliteIntel has now been banned, you are the only diehard OLED fan here. But that changes nothing. Enjoy inferior technology if you like but saying LCD is "flawed" makes you look foolish.

Troll troll troll your boat. On the contrary friend, calling a 1280x720 SAMOLED 4.8 inch display a deal breaker is completely obnoxious. You do realize that the entire purpose of SLCD is to make LCD mimic AMOLED as much as possible right? SLCD is some middle of the road technology that is a jack of all trades and a master of none. It's not as bright and has worse whites than the type of LCD in the iPhone and it still does not match the colors and true blacks of SAMOLED while managing to achieve worse outdoor visibility.
 

Puddle Jumper

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The GS2 has a non-pentile AMOLED screen. I have no problem with AMOLED, but the pentile matrix makes it look less sharp and more pixelated. Of course, higher resolutions somewhat mitigate that, but I would rather have an RGB matrix than a pentile one.

I would too but at the moment it's not possible to get a 720p Super AMOLED Plus screen that will fit in a smartphone so pentile is the next best option.
 

QueBert

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I love people who pretend they calibrated their OLED screen to where it has acceptable whites. My LCD will never have great blacks, your OLED will never have great whites. Both technologies have their pluses and minuses.

I owned a One X and played with a S3, the One X screen imho is a lot nicer looking. But I don't like it better because it's LCD, I like it better because to my eyes it looks better. When I 1st saw the One X I had no idea it was LCD even, all I had read about new phones before I saw it was about the One S, which has some sort of OLED. So if anything I was assuming the One X had the same sort of screen just larger when I saw it.
 
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Dari

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It can't display back, that's a pretty massive flaw. Then there is the poor response times as well.

And before you make some comeback about whites my calibrated Galaxy S2 has no problem with them.

Sure it can display blacks (assuming that's what you meant to write). I see it all the time, lol. It's the purple/green/orange/bluish whites on OLED that puts off most people. Also, the lifespan of the pixels. Finally, since there are more whites used on a smartphone than blacks, the power drain on the battery is atrocious.

Your argument is clearly flawed. LCD is far more advanced and mature than OLED and it shows (literally). But whatever floats your boat, I guess...
 

Dari

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Troll troll troll your boat. On the contrary friend, calling a 1280x720 SAMOLED 4.8 inch display a deal breaker is completely obnoxious. You do realize that the entire purpose of SLCD is to make LCD mimic AMOLED as much as possible right? SLCD is some middle of the road technology that is a jack of all trades and a master of none. It's not as bright and has worse whites than the type of LCD in the iPhone and it still does not match the colors and true blacks of SAMOLED while managing to achieve worse outdoor visibility.

You enjoy making stuff up?
 

Puddle Jumper

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I love people who pretend they calibrated their OLED screen to where it has acceptable whites. My LCD will never have great blacks, your OLED will never have great whites. Both technologies have their pluses and minuses.

I owned a One X and played with a S3, the One X screen imho is a lot nicer looking. But I don't like it better because it's LCD, I like it better because to my eyes it looks better. When I 1st saw the One X I had no idea it was LCD even, all I had read about new phones before I saw it was about the One S, which has some sort of OLED. So if anything I was assuming the One X had the same sort of screen just larger when I saw it.

I am surprised you thought the One X was AMOLED, I could immediately tell it was a LCD just by looking at it. And there is no reason an OLED screen can't be calibrated for better whites but you will never get proper blacks from LCD.

Sure it can display blacks (assuming that's what you meant to write). I see it all the time, lol. It's the purple/green/orange/bluish whites on OLED that puts off most people. Also, the lifespan of the pixels. Finally, since there are more whites used on a smartphone than blacks, the power drain on the battery is atrocious.

Your argument is clearly flawed. LCD is far more advanced and mature than OLED and it shows (literally). But whatever floats your boat, I guess...

Where have you seen a LCD that can display black because my high end IPS LED monitors can't and neither can the One X.
 

Dari

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I am surprised you thought the One X was AMOLED, I could immediately tell it was a LCD just by looking at it. And there is no reason an OLED screen can't be calibrated for better whites but you will never get proper blacks from LCD.



Where have you seen a LCD that can display black because my high end IPS LED monitors can't and neither can the One X.

I see blacks all the time. Just like you see whites all the time, except your whites have been bastardized.
 

QueBert

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I am surprised you thought the One X was AMOLED, I could immediately tell it was a LCD just by looking at it. And there is no reason an OLED screen can't be calibrated for better whites but you will never get proper blacks from LCD.



Where have you seen a LCD that can display black because my high end IPS LED monitors can't and neither can the One X.

And you will never get proper whites from an OLED, how hard is that to understand? you calibrated your phone to have better whites, but they still aren't very good. Just like the blacks on a One X aren't very good. Bottom line, if whites are important to you, you don't touch OLED, if blacks are important to you, you don't touch LCD.
 

Puddle Jumper

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And you will never get proper whites from an OLED, how hard is that to understand? you calibrated your phone to have better whites, but they still aren't very good. Just like the blacks on a One X aren't very good.

What is inherently wrong with whites on an AMOLED screen other than the power usage?
 

QueBert

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What is inherently wrong with whites on an AMOLED screen other than the power usage?

The hue's all wrong, I have seen calibrated screens and they clearly don't look whites to me. Blacks on a LCD will have the gray'ish hue, there's no way around that. Whites on OLED will have a purple/blue'ish hue, no way around that either. You can make it less noticeable, but to people who can see it, it's still there. It boils down to how sensitive your eyes are to it. Some people don't notice it, these are probably the same people who could look at their LCD monitor next to my properly calibrated CRT and honestly tell me that they don't see the picture on mine is words better than their LCD. I run the inverted system apps on my Galaxy Note because the whites were killing me.
 

iahk

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This is the most asinine banter I've seen in a while. ;)

Some people prefer blacks in a samoled display and some people prefer the whites on super lcd. deal with it. in the big picture, a lot of people don't really care or probably even know what type of display they are using.
 

Red Storm

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Finally, since there are more whites used on a smartphone than blacks, the power drain on the battery is atrocious.

Err, it's always been the opposite for me. The only time I have a white background is when I'm web browsing on sites that have it, otherwise most everything is black. This is one thing I consider to be an advantage of OLED.
 

gorcorps

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Err, it's always been the opposite for me. The only time I have a white background is when I'm web browsing on sites that have it, otherwise most everything is black. This is one thing I consider to be an advantage of OLED.

Given that you can choose your wallpaper, theme, etc... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's going to be different for everybody so it's a pointless debate. Even certain apps let you select between light/dark themes.
 

Red Storm

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Given that you can choose your wallpaper, theme, etc... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's going to be different for everybody so it's a pointless debate. Even certain apps let you select between light/dark themes.

Yes but isn't the power saving you get with black on OLED exclusive to it? I don't remember LCD having anything like that.
 

Dari

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Err, it's always been the opposite for me. The only time I have a white background is when I'm web browsing on sites that have it, otherwise most everything is black. This is one thing I consider to be an advantage of OLED.

If you're mostly using your phone for the obvious (texting, email, browsing the web, etc...) you're using a lot of whites...
 

gorcorps

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If you're mostly using your phone for the obvious (texting, email, browsing the web, etc...) you're using a lot of whites...

Texting apps have themes (mine is black background for this reason), email apps have themes but I just use the default email app because I don't use it as often, browsing the web is obvious. I personally don't "browse" on my phone often so that rarely comes up. I'm mainly on forums and for that I use tapatalk, which currently has a dark theme applied.
 

QueBert

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If you're mostly using your phone for the obvious (texting, email, browsing the web, etc...) you're using a lot of whites...

Only true if they have a superior S-LCD driven device, if they have an OLED one they're using a lot of purple'ish :D
 

KLin

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Amazon wireless had the galaxy nexus for a penny today with a new account. I bought it, and am going to cancel my current phone that's under my company's name.
 

poofyhairguy

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Just like it is known that the best iPhones to get are odd numbered ones (1, 3(GS), 5) it is looking like the best Galaxies are even numbered ones. I can't wait to get the A15 non-pentile 720p beast I dreamed of last year next year....
 

Bateluer

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Just like it is known that the best iPhones to get are odd numbered ones (1, 3(GS), 5) it is looking like the best Galaxies are even numbered ones. I can't wait to get the A15 non-pentile 720p beast I dreamed of last year next year....

There is no iPhone 5. :p



Seriously though, Samsung's near simultaneous launch of a flagship device, under its own name, on 5 US carriers is a major feat. And one not achieved by anyone else in the US, not even Apple managed to land an iPhone model on 5 carriers at launch. The 2G/3G/3GS were all AT&T exclusive, the 4 started on AT&T and came to Verizon several months later, and the 4S launched on AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint, with US Cellular coming a short time later. TMO never got it at all.

Hopefully, this is something we see more of, as it shifts power to the end user and to the manufacturers, away from the US carries. This is beneficial for the US consumer. :)
 

dguy6789

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You enjoy making stuff up?

Funny. You're a known massive Sony fanboy and a rather obnoxious one at that to put it nicely. I am sure it bothers you an awful lot when people say the Xbox 360 is more powerful than the PS3.

SLCD is a Sony technology. That's the only reason you have such a hard on for it. I find it quite amusing just how bothered you get when people either say SAMOLED is better or explain why it is better.
 

ponyo

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If you're mostly using your phone for the obvious (texting, email, browsing the web, etc...) you're using a lot of whites...

Do you own and use a smartphone? I guessing no based on your general lack of knowledge on the subject matter.
 

Bateluer

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Why does every thread involving a discussion of the SGS3 devolve into a pissing match over the SAMOLED screen? The HTC One X has a great screen, by all accounts. So does the SGS3. There's far more to these devices than just their screens.
 

poofyhairguy

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Why does every thread involving a discussion of the SGS3 devolve into a pissing match over the SAMOLED screen? The HTC One X has a great screen, by all accounts. So does the SGS3. There's far more to these devices than just their screens.

Not really with the way the S4 is dominating the US LTE market.
 

Bateluer

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Not really with the way the S4 is dominating the US LTE market.

I was more impressed with Sense 4 on the One X than I was with TouchWiz on the SGS2s. Haven't touched an SGS3 yet, obviously. Knowing Samsung's build quality and feel, I'm going to say the One X is a much better built device.