G8 near to cancel the debts

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

 

[MrMajestyk]

Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
debt forgiveness is the best way one country can help another.

Yes, let's forgive the debt racked up by the sleazy despots who have virtually enslaved their populations and siphoned all but a few pennies form the economy to fuel their disgusting, immoral dictatorships. Just one less thing for them to worry about (as if!!) -

Could not agree more. The greed of the world banks on giving loans to dictators who have no intention whatever of repaying ~ just topping up their Swiss bank accounts.

It's no wonder elections in Africa are always swamped with vote rigging and violence - the winner gets his hands on the cash register !

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

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No it isn't. It doesn't count military aid, disaster aid, etc.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

though I do agree, America gives the more money than any other country, we should take care of our problems here first.

I don't know why so many people think the US are the biggest charity donor... in fact the US are not among the biggest pro-capita donor, nor in absolute terms, nor in percentage on the GDP...

Yes, actually, we are the biggest contributor. The government spends the most on charities of any other country, and we as people, privately, spend even more than the government.

Well, no...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_gdp
per capita?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap

Tsunami efforts:
per capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple_cap
and what about in absolute terms?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple

 

[Jadow]

get some Sarbaines Oxley auditors to contstantly harrass these countries to ensure that they aren't corrupt. Those SOX auditors are hardcore.

 

[0roo0roo]

they should really leave this stuff to private donaters. our debt is huge. they keep raising my university fee's because we don't have enough money.. and we are giving sh*t away? #%@#^@

africa is just a money hole. last time it got debts canceled they just took out new loans and wasted more money. all the aid destroys any need for self sufficiency...destroys ability to be self sustaining..distorts their economies.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: MrMajestyk

Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
debt forgiveness is the best way one country can help another.

Yes, let's forgive the debt racked up by the sleazy despots who have virtually enslaved their populations and siphoned all but a few pennies form the economy to fuel their disgusting, immoral dictatorships. Just one less thing for them to worry about (as if!!) -

Could not agree more. The greed of the world banks on giving loans to dictators who have no intention whatever of repaying ~ just topping up their Swiss bank accounts.

It's no wonder elections in Africa are always swamped with vote rigging and violence - the winner gets his hands on the cash register !

The bush administration has said it?ll link debt forgiveness to democratic reform, an amazingly good idea that flies in the face of the ?pay of those who hate you? that causes us to pay so much to Egypt in foreign aid.

i think foreigners and atheists don't know that the majority of Americans give 10% of there income to charity and that Christ himself said not to tell anyone what you give.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

though I do agree, America gives the more money than any other country, we should take care of our problems here first.

I don't know why so many people think the US are the biggest charity donor... in fact the US are not among the biggest pro-capita donor, nor in absolute terms, nor in percentage on the GDP...

Yes, actually, we are the biggest contributor. The government spends the most on charities of any other country, and we as people, privately, spend even more than the government.

Well, no...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_gdp
per capita?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap

Tsunami efforts:
per capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple_cap
and what about in absolute terms?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple

Great page, thanks for the link.

But the data is wrong, or outdated actually, you did claim the throne as the biggest contributor, but still one of the worst contributor pr. capita. That happened in 2002, and can be read on another page linked in this thread, page 1.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

though I do agree, America gives the more money than any other country, we should take care of our problems here first.

I don't know why so many people think the US are the biggest charity donor... in fact the US are not among the biggest pro-capita donor, nor in absolute terms, nor in percentage on the GDP...

Yes, actually, we are the biggest contributor. The government spends the most on charities of any other country, and we as people, privately, spend even more than the government.

Well, no...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_gdp
per capita?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap

Tsunami efforts:
per capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple_cap
and what about in absolute terms?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple

Great page, thanks for the link.

But the data is wrong, or outdated actually, you did claim the throne as the biggest contributor, but still one of the worst contributor pr. capita. That happened in 2002, and can be read on another page linked in this thread, page 1.

Hum.. what do you mean by "you"?
The source of informations for most stats on this site is the CIA world factbook 2005, along with some UN agencies. Anyway, I wasn't trying to bash on the US.. just pointing out that many people in the US for some reason think their country as the only nation providing aid to developing countries, while in fact this is not the case. It's one of the most interesting false assuptions coming from our media system.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: episodic

Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
debt forgiveness is the best way one country can help another.

Yes, let's forgive the debt racked up by the sleazy despots who have virtually enslaved their populations and siphoned all but a few pennies form the economy to fuel their disgusting, immoral dictatorships. Just one less thing for them to worry about (as if!!) -

//yep. . .

The bush administration has said it?ll link debt forgiveness to democratic reform, an amazingly good idea that flies in the face of the ?pay of those who hate you? that causes us to pay so much to Egypt in foreign aid.

Originally posted by: Engineer
Maybe in a few years, we can get the world to cancel our debts as well! :laugh:

more like we'll cancel our own debts

well, considering that Communist China, Japan and other foreign investors own a large percentage of this debt in the form of T-Bills, Bonds, etc, I don't think they will look too kindly on the US gov't cancelling this debt. The international markets would be in complete chaos if the "full faith and credit' of the US government is broached.

That being said, 7 trillion dollars and growing under this administration is disgusting and the day of reckoning is coming where the interest to service this debt will grow out of control.
Back on topic:
To quote Howard Stern of all people "Why am I paying all these taxes?" I understand the logic of forgiving debt because these countries are suffering but nobody is going to forgive my mortgage debt. The world bank needs to stop lending money to these countries under ridiculous terms that they can never fulfill and where much of it gets sphioned off to despots. :thumbsdown:

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

though I do agree, America gives the more money than any other country, we should take care of our problems here first.

I don't know why so many people think the US are the biggest charity donor... in fact the US are not among the biggest pro-capita donor, nor in absolute terms, nor in percentage on the GDP...

Yes, actually, we are the biggest contributor. The government spends the most on charities of any other country, and we as people, privately, spend even more than the government.

Well, no...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_gdp
per capita?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap

Tsunami efforts:
per capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple_cap
and what about in absolute terms?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple

Great page, thanks for the link.

But the data is wrong, or outdated actually, you did claim the throne as the biggest contributor, but still one of the worst contributor pr. capita. That happened in 2002, and can be read on another page linked in this thread, page 1.

Hum.. what do you mean by "you"?
The source of informations for most stats on this site is the CIA world factbook 2005, along with some UN agencies. Anyway, I wasn't trying to bash on the US.. just pointing out that many people in the US for some reason think their country as the only nation providing aid to developing countries, while in fact this is not the case. It's one of the most interesting false assuptions coming from our media system.

I was assuming you to be american, i am not, that's what i meant by you.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

though I do agree, America gives the more money than any other country, we should take care of our problems here first.

I don't know why so many people think the US are the biggest charity donor... in fact the US are not among the biggest pro-capita donor, nor in absolute terms, nor in percentage on the GDP...

Which "country" gives more in absolute dollars?

Using the per capita argument is losers argument. Basically saying you cant compete in raw dollars so we find a medium we can compete in.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

I don't understand.
In Denmark, we pay $302.72 per person.
In the US, you pay $23.76 per person.
Now you might pay more, but you have 60 times more citizens than we do. And why don't you pay 300$ pr. person?
I would complain to italians, because they actually pay less than you. But i don't speak italian, and there are no italians on this board (afaik). Apart from them, you're the ones that pay the least money in the world pr. capita.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

I don't understand.
In Denmark, we pay $302.72 per person.
In the US, you pay $23.76 per person.
Now you might pay more, but you have 60 times more citizens than we do. And why don't you pay 300$ pr. person?
I would complain to italians, because they actually pay less than you. But i don't speak italian, and there are no italians on this board (afaik). Apart from them, you're the ones that pay the least money in the world pr. capita.

I am sure when somebody feeds their mouth with aid from the United States they will care that on a per capita basis our govt doesnt shell out as much aid as Denmark.

I am sure if they looked the stockpiles of food our money bought compared to denmark they will care even less.

Per capita is a weak argument. Especially considering we are talking about govt funded aid not private donations. I am willing to bet private donations as a per capita basis are probably lower in denmark than in the United States.

Wanna guess why?

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

I don't understand.
In Denmark, we pay $302.72 per person.
In the US, you pay $23.76 per person.
Now you might pay more, but you have 60 times more citizens than we do. And why don't you pay 300$ pr. person?
I would complain to italians, because they actually pay less than you. But i don't speak italian, and there are no italians on this board (afaik). Apart from them, you're the ones that pay the least money in the world pr. capita.

I am sure when somebody feeds their mouth with aid from the United States they will care that on a per capita basis our govt doesnt shell out as much aid as Denmark.

I am sure if they looked the stockpiles of food our money bought compared to denmark they will care even less.

Per capita is a weak argument. Especially considering we are talking about govt funded aid not private donations. I am willing to bet private donations as a per capita basis are probably lower in denmark than in the United States.

Wanna guess why?

So that means you won't mind if we pay 23$ pr. capita in europe?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

I don't understand.
In Denmark, we pay $302.72 per person.
In the US, you pay $23.76 per person.
Now you might pay more, but you have 60 times more citizens than we do. And why don't you pay 300$ pr. person?
I would complain to italians, because they actually pay less than you. But i don't speak italian, and there are no italians on this board (afaik). Apart from them, you're the ones that pay the least money in the world pr. capita.

I am sure when somebody feeds their mouth with aid from the United States they will care that on a per capita basis our govt doesnt shell out as much aid as Denmark.

I am sure if they looked the stockpiles of food our money bought compared to denmark they will care even less.

Per capita is a weak argument. Especially considering we are talking about govt funded aid not private donations. I am willing to bet private donations as a per capita basis are probably lower in denmark than in the United States.

Wanna guess why?

So that means you won't mind if we pay 23$ pr. capita in europe?

You can do whatever you want. Donations are meant to be voluntary not mandatory.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Forsythe
How about some data instead of just your word, which i have problems trusting beforehand.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

This is only one program of developmental aid through this one program, but some people mainly bring up only this type of aid.

Probably up at the top in terms of military aid as well.

Thank you 🙂

So, apart from Italy, America is the worst contributor in that statistic.

In terms of % of GDP or whatever, yes, in that one specific program.

This is the entire amount of government support you give.

When the world?s governments met at the Earth summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, they adopted a programme for action under the auspices of the United Nations ? Agenda 21. Amongst other things, this included an Official Development Assistance (ODA) aid target of 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) for rich nations, roughly 22 members of the OECD, known as the Development Assistance Committee (DAC). [Note that terminology is changing. GNP, which the OECD used up to 2000 is now replaced with the similar as GNI, Gross National Income which includes a terms of trade adjustment. Some quoted articles and older parts of this site may still use GNP or GDP.]

ODA is basically aid from the governments of the wealthy nations, but doesn?t include private contributions or private capital flows and investments. The main objective of ODA is to promote development. It is therefore a kind of measure on the priorities that governments themselves put on such matters. (Whether that necessarily reflects their citizen?s wishes and priorities is a different matter!)

That is fine, I am looking at foreign aid and the closest country is 10 billion behind us.

Go find something else to complain about.

In fact looking at the website it appears Bush the greedy bastid that is supposedly is has nearly doubled our govt support aid since taking office.

I don't understand.
In Denmark, we pay $302.72 per person.
In the US, you pay $23.76 per person.
Now you might pay more, but you have 60 times more citizens than we do. And why don't you pay 300$ pr. person?
I would complain to italians, because they actually pay less than you. But i don't speak italian, and there are no italians on this board (afaik). Apart from them, you're the ones that pay the least money in the world pr. capita.

I told you, in private donations the majority of us give 10% of our money to cherity. We're not a comunistic soceity, our giving is on the individual, not state-tyrany level.

So that means you won't mind if we pay 23$ pr. capita in europe?

i'd prefer it, then you could individually give according to your ability and conviction, it'd be great if your giving where voluntary and individual.

Also, foreign aid is a bit of a misnomer, giving money to Greece is like the US giving money to Arkansas.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain


Also, foreign aid is a bit of a misnomer, giving money to Grease is like the US giving money to Arkansas.

I assume you think of "Greece". 😀

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain


Also, foreign aid is a bit of a misnomer, giving money to Grease is like the US giving money to Arkansas.

I assume you think of "Greece". 😀

thanks, spell checkers don't pickup on those things.

though I'm quite happy that I?ve become much more literate in the six years that I?ve been here.

 

[BBond]

There was a cartoon on Truthout's front page yesterday that captured the essence of this.

In it Bush is holding a cancelled unpaid restaraunt bill proclaiming, "It's on the house!"

The customers, representing the countries the whose "debt" is being "forgiven" reply, "But we haven't had anything to eat."

That about sums it up.

 

[BBond]

BTW, if the U.S. gave at the same rate per capita as Denmark our total would be $87,788,800,000 per year.

 

[Ferocious]

heh Bush went after down-and-out Americans with his bankruptcy law changes....so he could bail out more foreigners.

No doubt they will get medical assistance too....while many working Americans are forced to go without it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
heh Bush went after down-and-out Americans with his bankruptcy law changes....so he could bail out more foreigners.

No doubt they will get medical assistance too....while many working Americans are forced to go without it.

You dont believe if you run up large CC debt and file banktruptcy you should be held responsible?

 

[Zebo]

Easy to spend other peoples money. Politicians are all filth as far as I'm concerned "looking good" instead of doing good. All these monies has had so many cuts taken off it before and if it ever saw the poeople who needed it most. From contractors we hire to the thugs that run these countries that buy Swiss country homes very little actually get down to the person so indebting them for it is just wrong. Almost as wrong as giving it to the thugs in the first place.