G3900 Celeron... still waiting.

[skipsneeky2]

The AMD A4-3300 has ST performance on par with a slow Core2 Duo. Not exactly what knowledgeable builders would recommend in 2016. But they ARE cheap, and it's because they are dog slow.

If its as slow as a E5200,it wouldn't work for me period.Had a Dell given to me that originally had a E5200 and it was ok for light usage but even older games sorta sucked on it.A $20 Q6600 and a spare ssd really made that tower shine.:thumbsup:

Still got the E5200 sitting in a anti-static bag somewhere,i thought about giving it away for free but i think shipping it even would cost more then its worth.Some poor sap maybe on a Pentium 4 and G31/G33 could have it but i doubt people sit on much worst these days then a E5200.Anything worst most likely is sitting on a incompatible chipset anyways.

 

[Sheep221]

If its as slow as a E5200,it wouldn't work for me period.Had a Dell given to me that originally had a E5200 and it was ok for light usage but even older games sorta sucked on it.A $20 Q6600 and a spare ssd really made that tower shine.:thumbsup:

Still got the E5200 sitting in a anti-static bag somewhere,i thought about giving it away for free but i think shipping it even would cost more then its worth.Some poor sap maybe on a Pentium 4 and G31/G33 could have it but i doubt people sit on much worst these days then a E5200.Anything worst most likely is sitting on a incompatible chipset anyways.

I must say that not all core based pentiums were that bad, the 5200 was useless for everything, but I had penryn pentium T4300 laptop and it was pleasure to use, it was very fast and responsive either with windows 7 and later windows 10, good for games for that era(2009 laptop) I donated it when I upgraded to i7 laptop in Dec last year.

 

[waltchan]

The AMD A4-3300 has ST performance on par with a slow Core2 Duo. Not exactly what knowledgeable builders would recommend in 2016. But they ARE cheap, and it's because they are dog slow.

True, but I'll let VirtualLarry respond to this.

 

[SPBHM]

If its as slow as a E5200,it wouldn't work for me period.Had a Dell given to me that originally had a E5200 and it was ok for light usage but even older games sorta sucked on it.A $20 Q6600 and a spare ssd really made that tower shine.:thumbsup:

Still got the E5200 sitting in a anti-static bag somewhere,i thought about giving it away for free but i think shipping it even would cost more then its worth.Some poor sap maybe on a Pentium 4 and G31/G33 could have it but i doubt people sit on much worst these days then a E5200.Anything worst most likely is sitting on a incompatible chipset anyways.

have you tried the e5200 with the SSD first?

also overclock? the e5200 was one of the best OC CPUs around, you could beat a stock e8400 without much work

I must say that not all core based pentiums were that bad, the 5200 was useless for everything, but I had penryn pentium T4300 laptop and it was pleasure to use, it was very fast and responsive either with windows 7 and later windows 10, good for games for that era(2009 laptop) I donated it when I upgraded to i7 laptop in Dec last year.

E5200 is like a t4300, but with 400MHz more and double the l2 cache!?

 

[Sheep221]

have you tried the e5200 with the SSD first?

also overclock? the e5200 was one of the best OC CPUs around, you could beat a stock e8400 without much work





E5200 is like a t4300, but with 400MHz more and double the l2 cache!?

T4300 had to be redesign of some sort, has smaller cache and lower base freq, but has 140 million more transistors than E5200 so maybe that caused it to be more responsive.

 

[SPBHM]

T4300 had to be redesign of some sort, has smaller cache and lower base freq, but has 140 million more transistors than E5200 so maybe that caused it to be more responsive.

I think your data is not correct (I know it's on the Intel website), they are pretty much the same thing, just less l2

in any case, I still have a t4400 being used, and it performs exactly as you would expect in relation to the e5200, given the clock and cache difference, e5200 is clearly faster at anything, t4400 uses less power.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/6011296?baseline=6085732

 

[Sheep221]

Funny, it seems marginally faster, however you are correct also about me referring to Intel database, at least I think that data presented there are valid.

 

[VirtualLarry]

T4300 had to be redesign of some sort, has smaller cache and lower base freq, but has 140 million more transistors than E5200 so maybe that caused it to be more responsive.

A re-spin of Penryn? Never heard of it.

 

[Sheep221]

A re-spin of Penryn? Never heard of it.

I have no idea mate, but penryns were only for laptops, wolfdales were for desktop.

 

[crashtech]

Well, Harpertown Xeons and Yorkfield Xeons and C2Qs lived on quite a few desktops and were just Penryn cores by another name.

 

[SPBHM]

Funny, it seems marginally faster, however you are correct also about me referring to Intel database, at least I think that data presented there are valid.

if you check the die size and transistor count, their site specifies the same number for the t4300 (1mb) and t9500 (6mb), which is incorrect, the t4300 used a smaller die without the l2 (and it wasn't just disabled), even by a picture you can see that the t4300 die is a lot smaller because it physically lacks a lot of the l2 and the info there is wrong.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Quote:
Originally Posted by crashtech View Post
The AMD A4-3300 has ST performance on par with a slow Core2 Duo. Not exactly what knowledgeable builders would recommend in 2016. But they ARE cheap, and it's because they are dog slow.
True, but I'll let VirtualLarry respond to this.

True, but I'll let VirtualLarry respond to this.

The A4-3300 2.5Ghz dual-core APU are no barn-burner, but they're passible. About like an E5200, only not overclocked.

The A4-3420 2.8Ghz dual-core APU, overclocked to 3.15Ghz, is a bit more potent, about like a Haswell G1820 Celeron. Maybe faster in iGPU, slightly slower in CPU.

Good enough for your average Joe on a budget, for web-browsing, with 8GB and an SSD.

Not so good for watching 4K video (they won't do it).

 

[skipsneeky2]

have you tried the e5200 with the SSD first?

also overclock? the e5200 was one of the best OC CPUs around, you could beat a stock e8400 without much work

Not at first,i did swap the E5200 back in later for gaming benchmarks and comparisons after i added in the ssd.Still felt pretty ok but for the $20 spent,a Q6600 in what was essentially a free tower really opened up such a old pc.

I couldn't overclock as it was a Dell.Felt and was right back in 2007 replacing a E6750 with a Q6600 and even more so today.No experience with a E8400 or higher chip,i wouldn't know if those can even fair today.

 

[VirtualLarry]

And just like that, G3900 is gone from Newegg again. Not even there but showing OOS. Showing discontinued.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx8...rce=googleps&gclid=CKnw7ojnhswCFUM8gQodshcAhg

Still in stock there.

 

[Sheep221]

Get it from other continent Larry, they just have shortage in the US.

 

[VirtualLarry]

AntOnline now has G3900 Celeron Skylake CPUs for $42 and some change, both on Newegg's marketplace, as well as ebay.

I picked up a few, for fun.