G2020 and Radeon 7750

[vass_badass]

will intel pentium G2020 bottleneck Radeon HD 7750 1GB GDDR5 or vice versa?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Pentium is not for gaming.

 

[SPBHM]

it really depends on the game and settings...


if you can pay another $20 you should probably get the Athlon X4 750K.

 

[Jimzz]

Do you already have the 7750?
I ask as the deals on the 7770 and 7790 make the 7750 over priced compared to them.

The G2020 is Ivy based so its pretty good for a starter CPU.
You live near a microcenter?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The G2020 is Ivy based so its pretty good for a starter CPU.

Sadly, this misconception continues, and on a respected tech forum of all places. 4 thread is minimum for modern games, and I'm not gonna debate it again.

 

[frozentundra123456]

To answer your question, my opinion is no. Pentium with a 7750 will still be faster than any apu without a discrete card. The Pentium is fine for older games, but has stuttering issues in newer highly multi threaded games.

That said, I would agree with the poster who suggested moving up to an x4 750, or even an Fx 6300.
I also agree that the 7750 is overpriced and its main advantage is that it requires no external power connector. If you have a decent power supply, as already stated, 7770 or 7790 gives better performance for not much more money.

 

[vass_badass]

Do you already have the 7750?
I ask as the deals on the 7770 and 7790 make the 7750 over priced compared to them.

The G2020 is Ivy based so its pretty good for a starter CPU.
You live near a microcenter?

I haven't bought the CPU neither the GPU. I was planning to get this combo. My budget for CPU+GPU is around 200$.

I will be playing games life BF3, Farcry series, Assasin Creed series, Crysis etc. Currently i have a very old monitor which just support max 1024x768 resolution. I will be upgrading to new monitor later. But just for now i need a CPU and GPU.

 

[lyssword]

no, I'd say it's a perfect combo

 

[AustinInDallas]

1024x768

I'm sure that's a fine combo

 

[Stuka87]

I would really suggest getting a CPU with 4 threads. Either an i3, or an AMD x4. BF3 is nearly unplayable in multiplayer with a dual threaded CPU. An i3 does pretty decent as long as you only play 32 player or smaller games.

A 7750 will play it fine at 1024x768. No issues there.

 

[Jimzz]

How about a AMD 6300 for $120(newegg) plus a used 7770 for $70ish used here in the F/S section?

That would help since some of the games you listed can use more than 2 cores well.

 

[Kristijonas]

Pentium is not for gaming.

60+ fps in nearly every game is not suitable for you?

 

[Stuka87]

60+ fps in nearly every game is not suitable for you?

Nearly every game from 6 years ago, sure. But no modern games.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

60+ fps in nearly every game is not suitable for you?

Nope.

 

[DominionSeraph]

How many threads on this are you going to make? Go to General Hardware and fill out the sticky. VC&G and CPU&OC can't do builds to save their lives, so just ignore them.
Once your build has been vetted by mfenn, it's good to go.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

60+ fps in nearly every game is not suitable for you?

To expand, Tom's Hardware has this to say from their 18 CPU shootout:

The Pentium isn't bad, to be sure. In fact, for $70, it still does really well against the FX chips we tested that cost $125 and up, use quite a bit of power, and generate significantly more heat. Nevertheless, we see the trend toward more threaded titles continuing, compelling us to start distancing ourselves from dual-core non-Hyper-Threaded CPUs in 2013. At least for the time being, whatever quad-core Athlon II and Phenom II processors that are still available seem like smart buys.

And here's their gaming chart with the Pentium as baseline:

Furthermore, the Ahtlon II X4 has come from behind and is their new recommended budget gaming CPU, usurping the Pentium which has held the honor for a while:

With modern games often able to take advantage of more than two processing cores, AMD's old quad-core chips (like the Athlon II X4 and Llano-based A6 and A8 APUs) look better now compared to Intel's dual-core models than they did before. As a result, I cut the Pentium G860 from our recommendation list.

I can only hope Anandtech forum members stop dishing out bad advice soon, it's embarrassing that it still continues to this day.

 

[Kristijonas]

AnonymouseUser, the chart only proves my point. Processors that are considered 'good' for games are only 120-130% compared to G860. And G2020 is 10% better than it is. I believe G2020 is a good gaming CPU. Particularly for games that utilize 2 cores. It's a strong dual-core CPU and it I would argue that it is actually better in games than some of the CPUs in that chart.
Also, 7750 will always bottleneck before G2020. Another proof that it's a good low-medium range gaming CPU. For example, I have a G860 and 7790 and 7790 will always bottleneck before G860 will...
Sorry if my words appear harsh. It's a hot topic for me, I mean no disrespect!

 

[frozentundra123456]

AnonymouseUser, the chart only proves my point. Processors that are considered 'good' for games are only 120-130% compared to G860. And G2020 is 10% better than it is. I believe G2020 is a good gaming CPU. Particularly for games that utilize 2 cores. It's a strong dual-core CPU and it I would argue that it is actually better in games than some of the CPUs in that chart.
Also, 7750 will always bottleneck before G2020. Another proof that it's a good low-medium range gaming CPU. For example, I have a G860 and 7790 and 7790 will always bottleneck before G860 will...
Sorry if my words appear harsh. It's a hot topic for me, I mean no disrespect!

I agree with you. I also don't see how anonymous interprets that quote from Toms as saying that the Pentium is unsuitable for gaming. It says quite the opposite to me.

As I said I would think the athlon x4 would be a better choice, but for low end gaming with a 7750, a Pentium should be adequate, and the gpu would definitely be the limiting factor.

 

[tweakboy]

For 200 dollars you can get 8GB RAM and a i5 CPU and i5 basic motherboard.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The sad thing is that the stuttering that occurs with dual-core cpus is not reflected in those charts. Continue to offer bad advice as much as you wish, I certainly won't.

EDIT>> You'll also notice those tests are GPU limited, except with the Pentium, 2- and 3-core AMD CPUs, which are GPU and CPU limited. So that "only 20%" difference is even more telling than you seem to grasp.

 

[Kristijonas]

Personally, I had encountered more stuttering with A8-3870K for some reason. It just felt slower than my current PC and I had the same maintenance habits as I do now.

 

[Stuka87]

Personally, I had encountered more stuttering with A8-3870K for some reason. It just felt slower than my current PC and I had the same maintenance habits as I do now.

Then something else was wrong with the system. There is no way a dual threaded, non-turbo, CPU is going to out perform a quad core CPU in current games.

The pentium *may* be faster in single threaded, and maybe dual threaded games. But no modern games are only dual threaded. And no I do not consider SC2/WoW to be modern.

The OP specifically states he wants to play BF3 and FC3. BF3 will peg a 4.5GHz 2500K if you have a fast enough GPU. FC3 is also fully quad core aware.

 

[vass_badass]

I would really suggest getting a CPU with 4 threads. Either an i3, or an AMD x4. BF3 is nearly unplayable in multiplayer with a dual threaded CPU. An i3 does pretty decent as long as you only play 32 player or smaller games.

A 7750 will play it fine at 1024x768. No issues there.

I can get the i3-3210 but then i have to go for 6670 1GB GDDR5(*budget*). I wont be playing multiplayer at all. Will the 6670 be enough for 1024*768?

 

[eternalone]

I play just fine with a Sandy bridge pentium G850 2.9 and a 7750 BF3 32 player maps medium to ultra on some settings, people are exaggerating.

 

[Yuriman]

Tough call for me, but I think I'd go for the Pentium + 7770. Certainly, you're going to have some bottlenecks from the dual core, but anything less than a 7770 probably isn't worth buying at this point if you intend to game. Save your pennies and down the road, sell that 2020 and get yourself a used quad.