G.Skill DDR2 800 HZ no longer have D9 Micron chip?
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I just got two more sticks last week. The previous ones did amazing things however with these two new ones I can't overclock more than 850mhz with all four sticks. I'm not entirely sure if this has more to do with the dual channel or if its the new ram itself, I haven't tested it all out yet. I can later tonight if i have time.
They're not using D9GMH anymore.
Want a more official confirmation ? Go to XtremeSystems Forums and post your question in the G.Skill Official Support section.
G.S.Technician aka G.Skill's technician from G.Skill's HQ will reply to you, just like I did, with the same answer, no longer D9
Want a more official confirmation ? Go to XtremeSystems Forums and post your question in the G.Skill Official Support section.
G.S.Technician aka G.Skill's technician from G.Skill's HQ will reply to you, just like I did, with the same answer, no longer D9
Only one thing...money.
Micron is asking a lot more than the other ICs ( Chips ) manufacturers.
So they say...you want Micron chips ? Buy a high end model, not a basic/entry model.
[ ofcourse they forgot that other manufacturers are producing 'cheap' memory kits with Micron chips, like the CellShock PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, Mushkin XP2-6400 4-4-3-10, Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, etc ]
Micron is asking a lot more than the other ICs ( Chips ) manufacturers.
So they say...you want Micron chips ? Buy a high end model, not a basic/entry model.
[ ofcourse they forgot that other manufacturers are producing 'cheap' memory kits with Micron chips, like the CellShock PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, Mushkin XP2-6400 4-4-3-10, Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, etc ]
I seriously would like someone to post a recent picture of a HZ module with the heatspreader removed and clearly showing that the IC's are not Micron.
To change the type of chips on such a popular and relatively expensive RAM makes no sense from marketing point of view.
Corsair did it back in November 2006 with their XMS2 series, and they were exchanging the modules for all those who paid the premium for them to get Micron, but the exchange program ended I believe in January 2007.
In the thread from the link above, the G.Skill tech is actually saying that they are Micron!
BTW, I came across G.Skill HZ back in April, when my XMS2 C4's arrived with one bad stick. Had to RMA it back to Newegg, got my $180 refund (they had a $50 MIR then, too), and promptly spent it on HZ's - ~$180 with no rebate.
I later got matching 2 x 512MB for a total of 3GB.
Now... please prove it they're not Micron. It is very easy to just say that, but we all need some kind of a proof - a statement, a picture, video... Just give us something!
To change the type of chips on such a popular and relatively expensive RAM makes no sense from marketing point of view.
Corsair did it back in November 2006 with their XMS2 series, and they were exchanging the modules for all those who paid the premium for them to get Micron, but the exchange program ended I believe in January 2007.
In the thread from the link above, the G.Skill tech is actually saying that they are Micron!
BTW, I came across G.Skill HZ back in April, when my XMS2 C4's arrived with one bad stick. Had to RMA it back to Newegg, got my $180 refund (they had a $50 MIR then, too), and promptly spent it on HZ's - ~$180 with no rebate.
I later got matching 2 x 512MB for a total of 3GB.
Now... please prove it they're not Micron. It is very easy to just say that, but we all need some kind of a proof - a statement, a picture, video... Just give us something!
@JustaGeek:
You can either have Elpida or Micron chips on the 6400 HZ, would you risk it , while you can surely get D9GMH on other memory kits at a lower price even ?
Not only that, G.Skill is using low binned D9 on the 6400 nowadays.
What's with that fanboyism around G.Skill 6400 HZ dude ?
It's not like Porsche & Suzuki...
You can either have Elpida or Micron chips on the 6400 HZ, would you risk it , while you can surely get D9GMH on other memory kits at a lower price even ?
Not only that, G.Skill is using low binned D9 on the 6400 nowadays.
What's with that fanboyism around G.Skill 6400 HZ dude ?
It's not like Porsche & Suzuki...
See, I wouldn't risk it, I already have, as I've explained above.
I surely don't understand your strong resistance against G.Skill. There is so much bad memory out there, but any chance you get, you badmouth G.Skill.
It's like if you had a grudge, or a personal vendetta against G.Skill.
I surely don't understand your strong resistance against G.Skill. There is so much bad memory out there, but any chance you get, you badmouth G.Skill.
It's like if you had a grudge, or a personal vendetta against G.Skill.
Are you drinking something or sniffing something dude ?
I have nothing against G.Skill and none manufacturer, I don't have a personal preference over a manufacturer...the only preference I've got is over my pocket ( my money ) and performance ( mainly overclocking ).
There's no bad module out there, only bad chips.
As long as a stick ( DIMM ) sports D9GMH/D9GKX chips, and they're not purposely selected for a low model ( low binning ), then they'd do like every other D9GMH/D9GKX stick.
Be it G.Skill, be it GeIL, be it Mushkin, Super Talent, Corsair, OCZ, A-Data, Crucial, Bugatti ( oh well ) it doesn't matter, it's down to the chips themselves.
just a simple example...crucial pc2-6400...125$ ( cheaper than the G.Skill 2GBHZ ) and surely Micron D9GMH...not only that, it looks like Crucial has been speed-binning their Ballistix sticks a lot lately they all do very good ( retail samples )...same price quotes can be found on Mushkin's XP2-6400 which is also D9GMH only...
If I were specifically looking for Micron chips I'd buy something that's guaranteed to have them, not something that might have them.
p.s. Don't imply that I have a vendetta or personal favor over a manufacturer again please, because:
1) I'm don't
2) I find it offending
thanks,
I have nothing against G.Skill and none manufacturer, I don't have a personal preference over a manufacturer...the only preference I've got is over my pocket ( my money ) and performance ( mainly overclocking ).
There's no bad module out there, only bad chips.
As long as a stick ( DIMM ) sports D9GMH/D9GKX chips, and they're not purposely selected for a low model ( low binning ), then they'd do like every other D9GMH/D9GKX stick.
Be it G.Skill, be it GeIL, be it Mushkin, Super Talent, Corsair, OCZ, A-Data, Crucial, Bugatti ( oh well
) it doesn't matter, it's down to the chips themselves.just a simple example...crucial pc2-6400...125$ ( cheaper than the G.Skill 2GBHZ ) and surely Micron D9GMH...not only that, it looks like Crucial has been speed-binning their Ballistix sticks a lot lately they all do very good ( retail samples )...same price quotes can be found on Mushkin's XP2-6400 which is also D9GMH only...
If I were specifically looking for Micron chips I'd buy something that's guaranteed to have them, not something that might have them.
p.s. Don't imply that I have a vendetta or personal favor over a manufacturer again please, because:
1) I'm don't
2) I find it offending
thanks,
Please change your tone.
I find it insulting, and this is not the first time you are calling me names.
Please stop.
Thank you.
So you're claiming that everybody should buy these as they'll surely get Micron chips on 'em ?
Because in statistics it doesn't go like that...1/2 people isn't a statistical sample at all.
p.s. Maxed at 1100 5-5-5-12 ? Doesn't sound like good D9GMH/D9GKX, more like down-binned ones or very old batch.
If I reply to this post I'm quite sure that you'll start saying that I have a vendetta with you...so what I will be doing from now on...is just ignore your posts like they didn't exist.
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Originally posted by: BenchZowner
They're not using D9GMH anymore.
Want a more official confirmation ? Go to XtremeSystems Forums and post your question in the G.Skill Official Support section.
G.S.Technician aka G.Skill's technician from G.Skill's HQ will reply to you, just like I did, with the same answer, no longer D9
I don't see any confirmation on that forum that HZ's aren't D9's anymore?
I only see him confirming they are D9's!
Give us a link to that post please!
Sorry I don't keep such bookmarks, and I'm pretty busy here with enough review samples on the bench, and no time.
Can barely sleep, can't be bothered to search a gigantic forum just for this simple cause.
Like I said...when purchasing 6400 HZ you're playing with your luck...you might get Elpida chips or Micron...
Can barely sleep, can't be bothered to search a gigantic forum just for this simple cause.
Like I said...when purchasing 6400 HZ you're playing with your luck...you might get Elpida chips or Micron...
I also find it interesting that JustaGeek keeps hawking Gskill like they are the second coming or something. Seems in every post he's trying to get someone to buy Gskill...what? do you work for Gskill?
LOL. No, I do not work for G.Skill.
When I ordered my 2x1GB modules from (......a major memory manufacturer) in April, one stick was DOA. Returned it for a refund back to Newegg, and while browsing the site for a replacement, I came across the G.Skill HZ's, with stellar reviews. Also, they work at the rated 800MHz 4-4-4-12 with only 2.0V - I do not think there is any other brand (D9's or not) able to accomplish that with only 2.0V.
Promptly ordered my HZ's, even though they cost me $180 and came without any rebates, and have been a "happy camper" ever since. In June, I ordered additional 2x512MB, and they are all performing flawlessly. I briefly overclocked them easily to 867MHz, but could not justify the bandwidth gain vs potential problems.
See, I just know if something works, or it doesn't.
And judging by the Newegg reviews written by people representing different levels of knowledge, I am not the only satisfied customer.
When I ordered my 2x1GB modules from (......a major memory manufacturer) in April, one stick was DOA. Returned it for a refund back to Newegg, and while browsing the site for a replacement, I came across the G.Skill HZ's, with stellar reviews. Also, they work at the rated 800MHz 4-4-4-12 with only 2.0V - I do not think there is any other brand (D9's or not) able to accomplish that with only 2.0V.
Promptly ordered my HZ's, even though they cost me $180 and came without any rebates, and have been a "happy camper" ever since. In June, I ordered additional 2x512MB, and they are all performing flawlessly. I briefly overclocked them easily to 867MHz, but could not justify the bandwidth gain vs potential problems.
See, I just know if something works, or it doesn't.
And judging by the Newegg reviews written by people representing different levels of knowledge, I am not the only satisfied customer.
Ok, you've original kit of another memory manufacturer had a stick that came DOA.
Did hell freeze over ? Nope.
Was it the first it ever happened ? Nope.
Has any company never had a DOA product in retail ? Nope, they all had and will do occasionally.It's just down to the lucky guy to buy the defective product that escaped the QC.
Oh wait! The 2003 Porsche Boxster had a manufacturing problem with the A. Transmission and have recalled 12k cars, so don't buy another Porsche ever!
Oh noez...I'm just exaggerating or I'm just stupid enough to say that.
What you're doing is like saying "Don't buy a Ferrari Enzo, it's cr@p, I bought one and it came with a scratched rim" stay away
friendly, as always
Did hell freeze over ? Nope.
Was it the first it ever happened ? Nope.
Has any company never had a DOA product in retail ? Nope, they all had and will do occasionally.It's just down to the lucky guy to buy the defective product that escaped the QC.
Oh wait! The 2003 Porsche Boxster had a manufacturing problem with the A. Transmission and have recalled 12k cars, so don't buy another Porsche ever!
Oh noez...I'm just exaggerating or I'm just stupid enough to say that.
What you're doing is like saying "Don't buy a Ferrari Enzo, it's cr@p, I bought one and it came with a scratched rim" stay away
friendly, as always
BenchZowner, look what I just found on Newegg...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820146108
Isn't that a gem...?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820146108
Isn't that a gem...?
Surely Micron D9GMH, and behave like every other D9GMH sticks.
Currently reviewing them ( retail kit ), doing DDR2-1101 4-4-4-12, and DDR2-1152 5-5-5-15 and DDR2-850 3-3-3-4 ( could go higher, but need to cool 'em better and provide them with more voltage )
Currently reviewing them ( retail kit ), doing DDR2-1101 4-4-4-12, and DDR2-1152 5-5-5-15 and DDR2-850 3-3-3-4 ( could go higher, but need to cool 'em better and provide them with more voltage )
Great!
I'm just afraid that 2.5V might affect their longevity. But it's great that they can run those speeds.
I'm just afraid that 2.5V might affect their longevity. But it's great that they can run those speeds.
2.5V in long-term usage will probably degrade them ( depends on your luck and the chips themselves on how much ) but anything up to 2.4V given that you're keeping them cool, they'll be fine.
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