FYI Stay very far away from Norton Antivirus 2004

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SportSC4

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forgot about AVG, i've never used it but have heard many good things about it. their is a free version and a paid version. i'm gonna use hjo3's reply...
AVG > PC-cillin > AVG Free > Norton > McAfee
 

Aquaman

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I use Norton Suite 2004 Pro .......... not problems with lag when doing a full scan.

I have Athlon XP 1600 (1.4ghz) & 512 mb ram.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Sealy

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I have zone alarm and avg on my computer. I used to use house call, but it would scan, find a virus, but it could'nt get rid of it, I'd have to go through and do it myself. Then I downloaded the free version of avg, and it found and got rid of the same virus with no problem.

Then I proceeded to kick my husband's a$$ for opening .pif, .zip ect..... files! He now understands!
 

V00DOO

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When I was running NAV 2004 all web pages load in 5 seconds. My CPU (Intel P4 2.8GHZ w/HT) usage was 65% while loading a wed page. First I thought I get a virus and of course my first instinct is to scan for virus. Then I finallly disable NAV 2004 auto protect and the problem went away.
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Installed it a few days ago and brings back rather painful memories of running windows 95 on a 486....


I think it scans every friggin 0 and 1 in every line of code, for the resource hit I would hope so....

I don't know what YOU'RE talking about. I have Norton 2004 and it runs fine.
 

toant103

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Installed it a few days ago and brings back rather painful memories of running windows 95 on a 486....


I think it scans every friggin 0 and 1 in every line of code, for the resource hit I would hope so....

i have the corporate version from school, it's alright I think
 

amdskip

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I am running norton corporate version so all is good here. It finds a virus and gets rid of it, isn't that the point and then they go and bloat down the retail version.
 

TheVrolok

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Always been a Norton user(NAV 2k3 now), Zone Alarm Pro for my Firewall .. NEVER had a virus, not one. I'm also not an idiot. I don't understand what makes some of these other AV's so much better tho, how is everyone getting infected, I don't know how I could get infected unless NAV 2k3 simply doesn't detect the viruses at all.
 

Atlantean

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Originally posted by: geckojohn
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: BillGates Yep, and it has activation. :(
So? What does that mean if it has activation?

It means that you can't download it from the net and use it for free, stupid. Jeez

Thats why I was asking cause I know it can be downloaded from the net and used for free, stupid. Jeez.
 

PliotronX

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Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: geckojohn
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: BillGates Yep, and it has activation. :(
So? What does that mean if it has activation?

It means that you can't download it from the net and use it for free, stupid. Jeez

Thats why I was asking cause I know it can be downloaded from the net and used for free, stupid. Jeez.
Well the cracked versions of software bypass activation so you'd never know what activation is like with a cracked app. Just an FYI, NAV2004's activation has not been working quite as well as Windows Product Activation nor even as well as Adobe's new activation schemes. For several months there was an ongoing catastrophic issue with NAV2004's activation and it took a lot of time for Symantec to cook up a fix. By that time they had lost a lot of customers and word of mouth. Now the biggest issue with NAV2004 is its resource hogging. Nobody likes a bloated tool :D I think they overestimated the computing power of today's average machine, thinking their customers would never notice. It's sure backfired though, every review I've seen gives it a much lower score than NAV2003 netted.
 

Nod32 or Panda Titanium 2004 and Sygate Personal Firewall 5.5 is a good combination, better than NIS 03/04. Panda Platinum 8 internet security is a resource hog and the built in spam filtering is not worth a sh@t. The Antivirus and firewall are stable and Platinum 8 ability to pick up some RATS is nice. Panda Platinum 7 is not bad on the resources and has Sygate Personal 5.0 intergrated in it. Norton IS 03 spam filter sucks big time. The addblocker causes issues also with some sites not loading correctly even with the addblock dissabled. The Antivirus and Firewall are stable. Norton IS 04 has a excellent spam filter. The Addblocker issues where never corrected in 04. The Antivirus and Firewall are stable but they suck up about 20% more resources than NIS 03. The big mistake Norton is making with Internet Security is a custom install. Its a all or nothing install with them.
 

DOSfan

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Always been a Norton user(NAV 2k3 now), Zone Alarm Pro for my Firewall .. NEVER had a virus, not one. I'm also not an idiot. I don't understand what makes some of these other AV's so much better tho, how is everyone getting infected, I don't know how I could get infected unless NAV 2k3 simply doesn't detect the viruses at all.

It isn't just infection.

Nitemare and I are complaining about the way it slows down system performace just from running in the background.

With NIS 2K3 for me, and NAV 2K4 for Nitemare, websurfing becomes webcrawling. Literaly. Page loads take at least 6 times longer with NIS 2K3 running as without for me. And for the record, I am using Firebird.

It has nothing to do with us getting virii.

That is how other AV's can be so much better.
 

Ryan

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I'll never touch any of the bloated pigs that orton makes ever again - AVG Antivirus is the way to go.
 

imported_Phil

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You wouldn't believe the problems we have with Norton AV/NIS at work with customers machines. The resource drain isn't usually a big deal for most PCs, but things like NAV disabling itself on every bootup, machines hanging at the XP loading screen, etc. When that happens, we remove it and install McAfee instead.

It's a shame, because NAV used to be one of the best AV systems out there, but it's become so horribly bloated and picky in the last two revisions that it's hardly worth bothering with anymore.

Personally, I use Avast! Antivirus (free edition). Works like a charm and it's totally unobtrusive.
 

Imdmn04

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Use Mozilla or Firebird, adAware, windows update, and have some common sense about opening attachments with certain extensions, and know the risk assoicated with downloading warez, cracks, serials.

This is the best defense against any virus, a human brain is a lot smarter than any anti-virus software, if it looks fishy, don't open it.

Be very alert if u opened something and nothing happend, that means you probably just have been infected with a virus, you better do something about it as quickly as possible.
 

fw3308

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In all versions of NAV from my experience you need to change how the real time protection is set up. By default it is set up to scan any file openend, executed, modified or whatever. If you leave that set that way then yes your PC will lag in a serious way. You can change it though by opening up NAV and going to the Real Time configuration, click on advanced and change the settings from Accessed to Modified. Also check to see what yur Heuristics are set to as well. The default level should be fine. Hope this helps.
 

rh71

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I switched from NAV to AVG because of it.. AVG is free and updates are more frequent..
 

edro

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I think all anti-virus software sucks. I have never had a virus in over 8 years of internet use... Every once in a while, I will install the newest edition of Norton for the heck of it, and it never finds anything...
 

arcas

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Dumb question...what is AVG's full name? I might have to invest in this for my parents (I made the mistake of installing NAV 2k3 and they've been complaining about their machine's performance ever since).

 

JoPh

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norton corporate edition 8.1 here.
school gives it to me for free.
never had any problems with it.
 

NickE

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I'm using Mcafee Enterprise 7.1 - works fine and it's only a 7.5MB download using our grant number, much smaller than Norton. Used to have Norton Internet Security 2003 on our two machines at home, but once the subscriptions ran out, then it's either pay for that, pay to upgrade to 2004 (activation prevents use on two machines) or pay to upgrade to Pro which allows multiple installs. Much easier to find the corporate NAI grant and use that. No complaints so far, no appreciable slowing down, picks up viruses in emails etc. and takes very little resources, even when doing a full scan.
 

aircooled

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I've got NAV 2003 on my home machine, and will not upgrade to 2004 from all the hooror stories I've heard.

At work we use eTrust AntiVirus 7 (formerly Innoculate), and it seems to have a low overhead. I put AVG on all my friends and family's machines.