FYI: shut off your PC when it's not in use

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Nebor

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.

35/month electric bill.. I'm jealous. 2 months ago was 140, last month I got it down to 110.

My Apt is small, just over 500sq/ft. So that makes a difference. Especially if you're in a house.

Do you live in the Robot Arms apartments?
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Hmm, that's half(ish) my Bill.
Yeah mine's usually low, sub-$50's, at least in the winter. Summer, with an AC and dehumidifier chugging away, it climbs closer to $100. On the plus side, my gas bills in the summer are about $10/month. (Gas here fuels the furnace, water heater, and range/oven.)
Winter though.....gas bills can peak out around $200. This structure was evidently built long before the concept of insulation ever entered the mind of the first caveman.


This apartment is somewhere around 644sq ft. Lighting is mostly CFL, with a few incandescent bulbs in places that are only on for a short duration, which would kill a fluorescent in a hurry.



Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
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Don't forget about investing in rechargeable batteries. Buy one of the Sanyo Eneloop packs when its on sale and you could pretty easily save a couple of hundred dollars in batteries a year (probably not so much anymore now that most devices have their own rechargeable battery). It'd definitely help with 360 and Wii controllers though.
Second. Yeah they're a bit pricey. Yeah the mA rating might not be as high as other cheap NiMHs on the market.
1) The NiMH ratings on some of the cheap batteries are inflated anyway, and seem to be achieved if you're only drawing enough power to light a gnat's reading material. I tested some Sanyo 1700mAh cells against Powerizer 2250mAh cells (AA's, all of them), at a current draw somewhere around 1A. They both showed a voltage drop pretty near the same place. The Sanyo's generally had a smoother voltage curve, stayed higher longer, and they also didn't die in droves in a few months. (Of a batch of about 20 Powerizers, 40%+ were completely useless after only a few months of light use. The Sanyo's in the testing were over a year old and doing just fine.)

2) They keep their charge very well. Note though, right out of the package, they will have some charge, but all NiMHs need to be cycled a few times to reach full capacity. So if they seem to crap out a bit sooner than expected, give them a few cycles.

3) Rechargeables pay for themselves fast, and it doesn't take them too much longer to pay for the charger too.

4) Just buy them, darn it. :)


 
Mar 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Heh, I'm pulling about 1300W from the wall right now with PCs at full load, and they run :p

That's about $45 a month here.

Yeah, it wouldn't be hard to be using quite a bit of electricity, especially if you run stuff like folding. If you had an original PS3 running it, and say a quad core with dual GPUs you'd be using probably 800W just there. Of course it wouldn't be a total waste, but it'd save you a bundle in electricity.

Oh, another power hog that should be turned off is audio equipment, at least if its not used for extended amounts, especially vintage and receivers. In that sense a good universal remote can work wonders, so you can flip off the surge protector for your HT stuff, and then when you get home flip it on and let your remote go and reconfigure everything.

Don't forget about investing in rechargeable batteries. Buy one of the Sanyo Eneloop packs when its on sale and you could pretty easily save a couple of hundred dollars in batteries a year (probably not so much anymore now that most devices have their own rechargeable battery). It'd definitely help with 360 and Wii controllers though.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.

35/month electric bill.. I'm jealous. 2 months ago was 140, last month I got it down to 110.

My Apt is small, just over 500sq/ft. So that makes a difference. Especially if you're in a house.

Do you live in the Robot Arms apartments?

Sounds familiar, but missed the reference.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: sandorski
Hmm, that's half(ish) my Bill.
Yeah mine's usually low, sub-$50's, at least in the winter. Summer, with an AC and dehumidifier chugging away, it climbs closer to $100. On the plus side, my gas bills in the summer are about $10/month. (Gas here fuels the furnace, water heater, and range/oven.)
Winter though.....gas bills can peak out around $200. This structure was evidently built long before the concept of insulation ever entered the mind of the first caveman.

No Gas Bill, use Electric Heat. In Winter my Bill climbs to $50(ish)/month, but my Bill is Averaged out based on Previous 12 months usage. So that makes it a predictable Cost, but also kinda vague for nailing down Individual item power usage.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.

35/month electric bill.. I'm jealous. 2 months ago was 140, last month I got it down to 110.

My Apt is small, just over 500sq/ft. So that makes a difference. Especially if you're in a house.

I wish. I've got ~800 sqft 1 BR apartment. Have a ~15ft sloped vaulted ceiling in my living room/kitchen. I just think my AC is terribly inefficient and, well, I live in South Florida so it's almost always on.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: ChaoZ
People don't turn off their computers when they sleep? Wtf?

No, too busy Predicting Climate, looking for Black Holes, and studying Proteins. Busy, busy, busy.
 

Spike

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2001
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My electricity bill stays around $45 a month no matter what... even when I try to leave my pc's off so go figure. My gas bill (water heater, radiant heating, cooking) is what varies a ton, from $35 in the summer to $90 in the winter.

I still want to get a killawat so I can watch my pc's just out of curiosity. Especially now that I'm running a 24" LCD, that has to hog a fair bit more juice than my old 20".
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.

35/month electric bill.. I'm jealous. 2 months ago was 140, last month I got it down to 110.

My Apt is small, just over 500sq/ft. So that makes a difference. Especially if you're in a house.

I wish. I've got ~800 sqft 1 BR apartment. Have a ~15ft sloped vaulted ceiling in my living room/kitchen. I just think my AC is terribly inefficient and, well, I live in South Florida so it's almost always on.

ah ok. Ya, the only thing I need is my Baseboard Heaters in Winter and a Fan(barely works at times, but I still live) in the summer.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Sounds familiar, but missed the reference.
Futurama, of course. :)


Originally posted by: sandorski
No Gas Bill, use Electric Heat. In Winter my Bill climbs to $50(ish)/month, but my Bill is Averaged out based on Previous 12 months usage. So that makes it a predictable Cost, but also kinda vague for nailing down Individual item power usage.
Profile says you're in Canada? You must have absolutely incredible insulation.
Back home at my parents' house (east side of Pennsylvania), before we got a wood pellet furnace, we used electric heat. I think our record was $500 for one month, but that was atypically high. I think the place is 1800sq feet, very roughly. The (finished) basement was probably the worst heatsink in the place. The walls were uninsulated, and the floor was cold all the time. Those walls have since been redone and given Styrofoam insulation. It's not terribly thick, but it's certainly better than nothing.

That, coupled with the wood pellet furnace means that the basement finally feels livable in the winter, and it also has lowered the heating bills dramatically.


 

Mojoed

Diamond Member
Jul 20, 2004
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I was going to make a thread just like this, but I forgot.

I kept my PC on 24/7, until I started paying for my own electricity.

I save about $30/month putting my PC to sleep now when not in use.
 

lifeobry

Golden Member
Oct 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: ChaoZ
People don't turn off their computers when they sleep? Wtf?

I can understand if they're folding/SETI/downloading/etc.

But people that keep it on for no reason = :confused:
 

Bignate603

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.
A PC can consume 150-200W (tower only, not including the monitor), at least based on some informal testing I did awhile ago.

* 24 = 3.6 - 4.8KWH per day.
* 30 = 108 - 144KWH per month

US average is $0.1196/KWH
$12.9168 - $17.2224 per month to have a PC running 24/7.

The lowest on the chart is West Virginia, at $0.0787/KWH. Highest is Hawaii, at $0.2299/KWH.

Yes, and all that goes into heat. If you've been running your AC (I still am, I'm in Phoenix) you then have to use electricity to get rid of that heat.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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if i can figure out why I can't get it to power back on normally after a sleep, then I would use it. It always come back as if it were an improper shutdown.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: shortylickens
FYI: Make more money and 25 bucks wont matter to you.
Also, that 25 bucks does a lot more for the economy than you might know.

Meh, whatever, I most likely make more than you.

And yet you whine about 25 dollars........
 

fleabag

Banned
Oct 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
FYI: Make more money and 25 bucks wont matter to you.
Also, that 25 bucks does a lot more for the economy than you might know.

parable of the broken window
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: shortylickens
FYI: Make more money and 25 bucks wont matter to you.
Also, that 25 bucks does a lot more for the economy than you might know.

parable of the broken window

Thus, the child did not bring any net benefit to the town. Instead, he made the town poorer by at least the value of one window, if not more. His actions benefited the glazier, but at the expense not only of the shopkeeper, but the baker and cobbler as well. Moreover, the benefit to the glazier is relatively small, because most of what he charges is to compensate him for his tedious and strenuous labour, as well as the materials he uses.
If the glazier, the baker, and the cobbler are not able to make a profit when they are working, I fail to see how losing work is any better. They need to reevaluate their business model and make some sort of a profit no matter what they are doing. Otherwise they should all just quit and mooch off the tax dollars. Thats like the government paying people to NOT raise pigs or harvest corn.
It might seem to fix a few problems now, but in the end we cant all pay out money for folks to sit around doing nothing. Sooner or later, SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE, actually has to go to work and produce a product or service of value and then sell it for slightly more than it cost them to make. They need to create value, which is the real source of money. Thats business.
Though I'm sure many P&N folks would love to fight me on that.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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People who leave their computer(s) running 24x7 should be punched in the face for several minutes.
 

DangerAardvark

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, well I'd like to think it would make that much difference, but seeing as how my total Electric Bill is $35/month, I think you did more than just turn off your PC. Your Rates, I suppose, could be much higher than mine.
A PC can consume 150-200W (tower only, not including the monitor), at least based on some informal testing I did awhile ago.

* 24 = 3.6 - 4.8KWH per day.
* 30 = 108 - 144KWH per month

US average is $0.1196/KWH
$12.9168 - $17.2224 per month to have a PC running 24/7.

The lowest on the chart is West Virginia, at $0.0787/KWH. Highest is Hawaii, at $0.2299/KWH.

Yuck, $24 per month if I had my PC on all day, but it's off at least 8 hrs a day, so -1/3 = $16 a month.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sounds familiar, but missed the reference.
Futurama, of course. :)


Originally posted by: sandorski
No Gas Bill, use Electric Heat. In Winter my Bill climbs to $50(ish)/month, but my Bill is Averaged out based on Previous 12 months usage. So that makes it a predictable Cost, but also kinda vague for nailing down Individual item power usage.
Profile says you're in Canada? You must have absolutely incredible insulation.
Back home at my parents' house (east side of Pennsylvania), before we got a wood pellet furnace, we used electric heat. I think our record was $500 for one month, but that was atypically high. I think the place is 1800sq feet, very roughly. The (finished) basement was probably the worst heatsink in the place. The walls were uninsulated, and the floor was cold all the time. Those walls have since been redone and given Styrofoam insulation. It's not terribly thick, but it's certainly better than nothing.

That, coupled with the wood pellet furnace means that the basement finally feels livable in the winter, and it also has lowered the heating bills dramatically.

smacks head Futurama, of course. Not quite that small...more like the Closet. :laugh:

Most of my Apt facing Outside is glass, practically all of it in fact, but it's not a very large area. Plus I live on the West Coast which usually doesn't get that cold, perhaps a total of a month or so below freezing(24 hour period). Good Insulation is quite popular and common up here though.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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www.anyf.ca
I keep mine on, produces a bit more heat, making it so I don't have to run the furnace as much, so I save on gas costs. Though I don't think the change is all that significant. I'd have to calculate the cost per BTU and pretty sure electric is more expensive. :p

I have a couple servers that run 24/7 too. The backup server is the only one that is off all the time and only turns on to run a job then turns off. One of these days I need to buy a killawatt or a TED (hooks to electrical panel and measures total consumption) and check how much money this costs me.

I'm only consuming like $30 of power total though, last I checked. I suppose that might go up now that it's winter. Running the furnace blower, heater under the garage, etc. That heater alone is a killer. 2800 watts. I had to install a double pole 30amp breaker just for that.
 

SparkyJJO

Lifer
May 16, 2002
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
People who leave their computer(s) running 24x7 should be punched in the face for several minutes.

Why? We pay the bill, not you.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
People who leave their computer(s) running 24x7 should be punched in the face for several minutes.

Why? We pay the bill, not you.

Global warm MY planet will you?! :|
 

SparkyJJO

Lifer
May 16, 2002
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
People who leave their computer(s) running 24x7 should be punched in the face for several minutes.

Why? We pay the bill, not you.

Global warm MY planet will you?! :|

Global warming is a scam (the past couple years here have been driving that home and we are set up for another harsh winter from the looks of things). Besides, I heat the room with the PCs, if the PCs weren't on I'd be using electric to run the heater anyway. And in the grand scheme of things, me running a few systems 24/7 isn't going to affect a darn thing.

Complain about global warming? Complain at the sun, it's the source of heat ya know.