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FYI...if you are under 50, you didn't get a 'slave name'

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RKS

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ask and ye shall receive.


So Tristicus if I'm such a dip shit what did I say that wasn't factually accurate? I'll agree with you when you're able to disect what I said and prove a single point I made to be incorrect. Until then all you did was make yourself look like the dip shit here.
have a blessed day.

Actually the most appropriate rebuttal to his logic should have been, "No, you are".
 

nageov3t

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wouldn't you have to be able to trace your family lineage straight back to the 1800s and find the slave owners to make the argument, though?

I mean, who's to say that you're great great great great grandfather didn't escape to Canada or take the name of the family who rescued him? or that a fraternal great great grandparent emigrated from Africa and chose their own Americanized name?
 

zinfamous

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Depending on the state he was in, if he was a convicted felon it's very likely he can't change his last name. I know in California you have to petition it and get it approved which is almost impossible. In that case no he couldn't just legally change it. But even in that case he didn't have to mention the one he goes by since it's not legally binding.

I think convicted felons shouldn't be bitching about their so-called slave names, honestly. It seems there are more prescient issues in their lives to deal with.
 

zinfamous

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You're a fucking idiot.

How so? I don't often agree with Quebert, but he makes a very valid and logical point. Very little of what he says here is opinion, really. It's mostly historical fact.

what does that make you? :hmm:
 

JD50

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How so? I don't often agree with Quebert, but he makes a very valid and logical point. Very little of what he says here is opinion, really. It's mostly historical fact.

what does that make you? :hmm:

I came here to post the exact same thing.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Alkemyst, have you been hanging out with spaceman? What paperwork and why are you talking to slaves?
 

Skel

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Personally I’m keeping my slave name… of course I just don’t want Chase to lock my account when I buy an Ipad
 

MrColin

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Not only did the slaves inherit their owner's surname, but in many cases thier DNA. The lighter skinned offspring of slaves, and later, share croppers were not only second class citizens, they were often ostracized by their families too.

But yeah, the impromptu lecture about peoples' slave names does seem a bit pretentious these days.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It's pretty fucking simple, his ancestors didn't come from America originally. And there's zero chance that his family from where ever they're from had the last name Franklin. The name was give to his family by the plantation owners who owned them. Sorta like the scene in Roots where Levar Burton is getting whipped because he won't say his name's Toby. People who say that today aren't saying they were born slaves or that there parents were slaves. They're simply saying that their name came as a result of their ancestors being a slave hundreds of years ago.

"Don't forget your history, nor your destiny" - Bob Marley. People shouldn't dwell on it but at the same time you cannot forget your history, and unfortunately that's a big part of American history.


Latrinea thanks you!
 

Pheran

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i come from a mixed family. 2 sisters and one brother are black. Diaana and jackiee are the females. Waiiven is my brother.

both girls just had babies (woot uncle again! 2 girls). they have weird name.s but nothing like shaniqua. one is Victoria autumn summer (something last name). and for the life of me i can't remember the other neice's name is.

Yeesh, your niece has two seasons in her name? They must be absolutely determined that she's going to be a stripper. ;)
 

JM Aggie08

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It's pretty fucking simple, his ancestors didn't come from America originally. And there's zero chance that his family from where ever they're from had the last name Franklin. The name was give to his family by the plantation owners who owned them. Sorta like the scene in Roots where Levar Burton is getting whipped because he won't say his name's Toby. People who say that today aren't saying they were born slaves or that there parents were slaves. They're simply saying that their name came as a result of their ancestors being a slave hundreds of years ago.

"Don't forget your history, nor your destiny" - Bob Marley. People shouldn't dwell on it but at the same time you cannot forget your history, and unfortunately that's a big part of American history.

Bob Marley was a pothead, and the fact that you quote anything of his in reference to being profound is kind of ridiculous.

On that note, I want my reparation check for the mistreatment of my Irish ancestors.
 

BoomerD

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Bob Marley was a pothead, and the fact that you quote anything of his in reference to being profound is kind of ridiculous.

On that note, I want my reparation check for the mistreatment of my Irish ancestors.

Nah...no reparations for the Irish...the drunk micks deserved to be treated poorly. :p
 

brblx

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please let that be a serious post.

also

It's pretty fucking simple, his ancestors didn't come from America originally. And there's zero chance that his family from where ever they're from had the last name Franklin. The name was give to his family by the plantation owners who owned them. Sorta like the scene in Roots where Levar Burton is getting whipped because he won't say his name's Toby. People who say that today aren't saying they were born slaves or that there parents were slaves. They're simply saying that their name came as a result of their ancestors being a slave hundreds of years ago.

that, obviously. though everyone has a 'slave name' of sorts. my family name means a person who sold textiles; i mean, what the fuck is that? this dude's name implies he is a medieval landowner of free but not noble birth. that sounds a lot fuckin' better than 'cloth-selling guy,' which makes him an arrogant dick, i'll say.
 

joebloggs10

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It's pretty fucking simple, his ancestors didn't come from America originally.
Along with something like 99.99% of the population in this country. Your point is invalid.

And there's zero chance that his family from where ever they're from had the last name Franklin.
Since the OP said that "Franklin" was a pseudonym, you're right but your point is invalid. There are many countries that were colonized globally by England, Spain, Holland, etc whereby any potential slaves or oppressed personages never left their homeland. It's quite possible that he's from Africa and his "slave name" is Van Der Hooerst.

The name was give to his family by the plantation owners who owned them.
Baseless speculation. It's just as likely that his family immigrated at some point, passed through Ellis Island, and had their name "Americanized" like so many countless immigrants did from all over the globe.