fx-9370 at newegg

[Arkaign]

True, true. It's really great with some things, fairly poor at others. Makes it hard to recommend given the price of the 8320 at a fraction of the cost, and the superior 4770 at the same price. Ah well, nice to have choices I guess.

Oh btw, welcome to AT SeraphicSamurai!

 

[SeraphicSamurai]

True, true. It's really great with some things, fairly poor at others. Makes it hard to recommend given the price of the 8320 at a fraction of the cost, and the superior 4770 at the same price. Ah well, nice to have choices I guess.

Oh btw, welcome to AT SeraphicSamurai!

Thanks for the welcome


Yes this SandyBridge on the P8Z77V-Deluxe board has been pretty good, it has a 7970, I ordered a new memory kit as well.

My server already has an 8350 but I must have got one of the worst luck of the draw (won't overclock past 4600) Also it being a server it has to be so stable I can put horses in it. (yes bad joke)

This new system will have a 780GTX. I don't honestly believe with either processor the bottleneck is at the processor anyhow, It's great ram, and fast storage (raptor/SSD) and then GPU, like I said

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-2600K...words=i7+2600k
Intel Core i7-2600K = $325 (no longer on new egg except the S???) version

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...irtualParent=1 was 237 (When I bought the 9370) and is on sale for $165.00 on Amazon now.


So for the same price I went for the AMD system, I like AMD a lot. I have been a fan of theirs since the k6-2 days. They just don't have the resources like Intel to keep up, and Intel played (and may still be for all we know) dirty for a Long time. The problem with AMD right now is not their architecture, it's the fact they can't shrink their die as fast as Intel can.
They should be @ 22nm now. It's really what's hurting them. Then all 8 cores could have an fpu.


I do have one question if it's stupid crucify me, Why is it when you run linpacks (Intelburntest) does it seem like AMD does SO poorly, when real world it's give or take 10 percent

 

[monstercameron]

maybe becasue linpack measures fpu performance[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINPACK_benchmarks ] and the amd cpus have lower spec fpus.
the thubans only had sse4a and fx 8350 has only 4 dual threaded fpus(citation needed).

 

[SeraphicSamurai]

maybe becasue linpack measures fpu performance[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINPACK_benchmarks ] and the amd cpus have lower spec fpus.
the thubans only had sse4a and fx 8350 has only 4 dual threaded fpus(citation needed).

Yes, but even my thuban was always getting low 40s in the linpacks, While sisoft correctly showed total score for fpu/cpu/multimedia functions, same for BD/PD

 

[Arkaign]

maybe becasue linpack measures fpu performance[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LINPACK_benchmarks ] and the amd cpus have lower spec fpus.
the thubans only had sse4a and fx 8350 has only 4 dual threaded fpus(citation needed).

Isn't the BD/PD/FX 'FPU' basically capable of running one complete FPU 256-bit instruction per module, or two half-width 128-bit FPU instructions per module, all coming from a single FPU scheduler (with the latter not being applicable very often?). This would really explain why many FPU-heavy situations basically turn the CPU into a Quad-Core for those particular situations.

 

[Arkaign]

Yes, but even my thuban was always getting low 40s in the linpacks, While sisoft correctly showed total score for fpu/cpu/multimedia functions, same for BD/PD

I think, I could be wrong, but the Thubans actually have 6 full FPUs complete with independent schedulers? Vs. the 4/8 split with 4 schedulers?

 

[exar333]

Not to mention 'combo' historically means :

CPU + Mobo

No sane human being believes that CPU + Norton is a legit 'combo' deal. You don't even get a heatsink, lol.

Does this even need a heatsink? I thought these ran passively cooled?

 

[jaqie]

I think, I could be wrong, but the Thubans actually have 6 full FPUs complete with independent schedulers? Vs. the 4/8 split with 4 schedulers?

Yes. This is why I bought a 6 core thuban when they were still available and until this summer used it as my primary computer. For FPU heavy tasks, it really does well for how much it cost me. ($125 retail with warranty about 3 years ago)

 

[Arkaign]

Yes. This is why I bought a 6 core thuban when they were still available and until this summer used it as my primary computer. For FPU heavy tasks, it really does well for how much it cost me. ($125 retail with warranty about 3 years ago)

Nice deal and still a very good processor to this day!

 

[Rvenger]

Does this even need a heatsink? I thought these ran passively cooled?

If they want to do a combo they need to pair it with a H100i or H80i and discount it to the amount of the AIO cooler cost.

 

[soccerballtux]

Isn't the BD/PD/FX 'FPU' basically capable of running one complete FPU 256-bit instruction per module, or two half-width 128-bit FPU instructions per module, all coming from a single FPU scheduler (with the latter not being applicable very often?). This would really explain why many FPU-heavy situations basically turn the CPU into a Quad-Core for those particular situations.

I think so but I don't understand when 256-bit FPU instructions became the norm? In which case it should be octo-core most (all) the time?

 

[Arkaign]

I think so but I don't understand when 256-bit FPU instructions became the norm? In which case it should be octo-core most (all) the time?

I'm not a big coder so I couldn't tell you for sure. Looking at the description I see that there are only four FPU schedulers, so perhaps it lags when trying to pump 8 128-bit FPU sequences?

 

[inf64]

The FP unit's design is a clear trade-off to get in the 8 integer "cores". I suppose AMD can get some throughput improvements with doubled decoders even though the unit is now slimmer (in Kaveri). How much (or if any) we will know by the end of this year.