Everybody is ranting about dead americans, dead americans. But like ANONMOUSEUSER said "An American life is no more precious than an Iraqi life." And I agree 100% to that. I agree with you on your opinion about Saddam. However, not everyone in that country is "filled with the devil" and It seems that an Iraqi life is nothing more Americans than another trophie.
Life no matter who's it is, is precious! You will recover from a embarassment, but is this person going to recover? I think not! Do you really believe this was sane while cutting of this man's head SLOWLY, and praising God while doing it? This was done because of the prison ordeal.
How about this one? What was it for?
Least we forget these 4 Civilians, done by whom? Iraqi citizens.
Four more civilian contractors
Which is more disgusting?
Some religion of peace.
Ozoned
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This is the world we live in.
It is so sad that we have the power to make it a world
where all can enjoy, but we wield that power so poorly.
We let our conscience guide us into the abyss and end up with our eyes blindfolded
and our hands tied, and our spirit slain.
A revolution is in order to force a compromise between our conscience and our survival.
Who will lead us there? Vote in November
I saw the video and agree with the title, fVck them all. I never did care about the "abuse" of the Iraqi prisoners, fVck them too. For that matter the same for you guys implying he was only there to make a buck, you fVckers probably work at Hardee's for minimum wage.
dahunan
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I am confused.. Haven't 10,000 plus Iraqi civilians been killed by the 90% American coalition in the past year?
I am not trying to lessen the impact of the beheading.. in any way shape or form.. If those men are caught I hope they incinerate them with shredded Korans as fuel...
BUT.. what I am saying is WE have killed 10,000 PLUS Iraqi civilians in the past year alone..
I am not trying to lessen the impact of the beheading.. in any way shape or form.. If those men are caught I hope they incinerate them with shredded Korans as fuel...
BUT.. what I am saying is WE have killed 10,000 PLUS Iraqi civilians in the past year alone..
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It's war people. The only thing different about Berg getting killed was that it was videotaped for your viewing pleasure (most certainly for the American media's pleasure...if it bleeds, it leads).
I don't see ten threads started for every new American military death.
The American invasion killed 10k Iraqi civilians. If I was an Iraqi, and a family member of mine was one of those killed civilians, I would enjoy nothing more in life than killing Americans. It will be a long time before any American civilians will be safe in Iraq.
I don't see ten threads started for every new American military death.
The American invasion killed 10k Iraqi civilians. If I was an Iraqi, and a family member of mine was one of those killed civilians, I would enjoy nothing more in life than killing Americans. It will be a long time before any American civilians will be safe in Iraq.
And how many Iraqi's had their heads sawed off by Americans?
You example is equivocation, and BAD equivocation at that.
dahunan
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pretty scary seeing so many show such deep and utter remorse for the wrongdoings against the Iraqi prisoners and then the same people also trying to justify in a way the downwright execution of Nick Berg, civilian contractor who had nothing to do with the war....I would take humiliation, or even a bullet in the brain over having my head sawed off while I was alive any day of the week...
I really felt ars comment on leaving Iraq in disgrace was truly poor form, wondering if that is solely motivated by your hatred for Bush as you would like to see this as his ultimate failure...and if Kerry does happen to win and keep us in there only in three years to pull us out I bet you would be the type to still blame it on Bush even though Kerry could have pulled the plug? hypothetically speaking of course.
Personally I cannot believe how many seem to defend the Iraqi's here and continue to bash the US, What would have happened if we never went to Iraq? does anyone really know? we know for sure Saddam would have gotten more and more powerful and his sons would have ruled with fear and abuse at the very least....did they fund AQ...honestly I don't see why so many cannot draw the parallel, as I said before sometimes the best team is that which differs in opinion and or approach, they both had the common goal of hating the US...
sad days for sure.
I really felt ars comment on leaving Iraq in disgrace was truly poor form, wondering if that is solely motivated by your hatred for Bush as you would like to see this as his ultimate failure...and if Kerry does happen to win and keep us in there only in three years to pull us out I bet you would be the type to still blame it on Bush even though Kerry could have pulled the plug? hypothetically speaking of course.
Personally I cannot believe how many seem to defend the Iraqi's here and continue to bash the US, What would have happened if we never went to Iraq? does anyone really know? we know for sure Saddam would have gotten more and more powerful and his sons would have ruled with fear and abuse at the very least....did they fund AQ...honestly I don't see why so many cannot draw the parallel, as I said before sometimes the best team is that which differs in opinion and or approach, they both had the common goal of hating the US...
sad days for sure.
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I am pretty sure that he was talking about this one
http://iraqbodycount.net/[/quote]
Yep.
In any case, can you tell me how you expect to get uninflated numbers?
Who is reporting the numbers?
And the biggest question, how do you differentiate between a civilian and a combatant when shortly after the invasion began, the majority of resistance came from Iraqi's in civilian clothing? How many Iraqi's have been killed since the initial invasion? None of them have been wearing military uniforms but I would guess that the vast majority were armed and firing at us when they were killed.
How do you classify those people who worked for Saddam and were killed while they were at military or government compounds? Do they count as civilians?
And how do you separate the civilians who were killed by enemy forces? Or do you just blame those on the coalition no matter who was actually responsible.
I don't know what the number is. I'm obviously not there and have no way of knowing for sure. But it is my opinion that the numbers being thrown around are vastly inflated. The coalition has taken extreme measures to avoid civilian deaths. Even though it vastly increases the danger to coalition troops, there have been numerous cases where we have refused to return fire because civilians are in danger.
If we didn't care about hurting civilians, there are several cities that would have been bombed to hell already.
I would rather listen to an army vet like Leeboy who has buried his son who fought in this war, than someone who don't know his head from his ass when it comes to a combat situation.
But that is just my take on the situation. I am sure the Admin will make the best politics out of the situation.
Yep.
In any case, can you tell me how you expect to get uninflated numbers?
Who is reporting the numbers?
And the biggest question, how do you differentiate between a civilian and a combatant when shortly after the invasion began, the majority of resistance came from Iraqi's in civilian clothing? How many Iraqi's have been killed since the initial invasion? None of them have been wearing military uniforms but I would guess that the vast majority were armed and firing at us when they were killed.
How do you classify those people who worked for Saddam and were killed while they were at military or government compounds? Do they count as civilians?
And how do you separate the civilians who were killed by enemy forces? Or do you just blame those on the coalition no matter who was actually responsible.
I don't know what the number is. I'm obviously not there and have no way of knowing for sure. But it is my opinion that the numbers being thrown around are vastly inflated. The coalition has taken extreme measures to avoid civilian deaths. Even though it vastly increases the danger to coalition troops, there have been numerous cases where we have refused to return fire because civilians are in danger.
If we didn't care about hurting civilians, there are several cities that would have been bombed to hell already.[/quote]
Several cities WERE bomed to hell during "shock and awe", you know, the stuff you jerked off to on FOX news, cheering while people were dying, that was when most of the Iraqi casualties happened.
The numbers are reported by red cross workers, but i guess unless Bush confirms them they are inflated to you.
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Several cities WERE bomed to hell during "shock and awe", you know, the stuff you jerked off to on FOX news, cheering while people were dying, that was when most of the Iraqi casualties happened.
The numbers are reported by red cross workers, but i guess unless Bush confirms them they are inflated to you.[/quote]
They don't let you out much, do they??
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