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fvck debeers!

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basically 2 companies are MAKING diamonds, LARGE ones, 3 carats and larger. The first company, Gemesis makes a 3 carat perfect yellow diamond in 3 days. Colorless will take longer (ironic since yellow ones are rarer in nature). The second company, Apollo diamond, is using a different process that makes diamond bricks. Usefull for making diamond wafers which in turn can be made into diamond chips! Eventually the entire industy will have to move away from silicon if Moore's law is to continue. (barring a dramatic shift in the way we design and make computers.)

De beers cartel is pissed naturally. Good those bastards need competition.
/cliffnotes

Interesting article if you got the time to read it. contains interesting facts about the de beers cartel for people who don't know already. Such as they're a monopoly, the maintian HUGE stocks of diamonds but keep supply down to keep prices high, etc...
 
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
 
Originally posted by: ClueLis
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
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impossible?

I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.
 
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
cliffnotes
basically 2 companies are MAKING diamonds, LARGE ones, 3 carats and larger. The first company, Gemesis makes a 3 carat perfect yellow diamond in 3 days. Colorless will take longer (ironic since yellow ones are rarer in nature). The second company, Apollo diamond, is using a different process that makes diamond bricks. Usefull for making diamond wafers which in turn can be made into diamond chips! Eventually the entire industy will have to move away from silicon if Moore's law is to continue. (barring a dramatic shift in the way we design and make computers.)

De beers cartel is pissed naturally. Good those bastards need competition.
/cliffnotes

Interesting article if you got the time to read it. contains interesting facts about the de beers cartel for people who don't know already. Such as they're a monopoly, the maintian HUGE stocks of diamonds but keep supply down to keep prices high, etc...
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you sir are the man for making a useful cliffnotes.
 
I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.

not if the companies are private
 
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: ClueLis
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
Click to expand...

impossible?

I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.
Click to expand...

Once the patent on the process runs out, it will be open for anyone to use, and DeBeers would have to permanently mantain that ridiculously low price. While they could still profit off of this enterprise, they won't be the heavily dominant force they once were.
 
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
cliffnotes
basically 2 companies are MAKING diamonds, LARGE ones, 3 carats and larger. The first company, Gemesis makes a 3 carat perfect yellow diamond in 3 days. Colorless will take longer (ironic since yellow ones are rarer in nature). The second company, Apollo diamond, is using a different process that makes diamond bricks. Usefull for making diamond wafers which in turn can be made into diamond chips! Eventually the entire industy will have to move away from silicon if Moore's law is to continue. (barring a dramatic shift in the way we design and make computers.)

De beers cartel is pissed naturally. Good those bastards need competition.
/cliffnotes

Interesting article if you got the time to read it. contains interesting facts about the de beers cartel for people who don't know already. Such as they're a monopoly, the maintian HUGE stocks of diamonds but keep supply down to keep prices high, etc...
Click to expand...

you sir are the man for making a useful cliffnotes.
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I concur, cheers fivespeed5! :beer:
 
Originally posted by: jhu
I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.

not if the companies are private
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and refused some insanely huge offer.
 
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: ClueLis
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
Click to expand...

impossible?

I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.
Click to expand...

Doesn't sound like the General would let that happen though. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
cliffnotes
basically 2 companies are MAKING diamonds, LARGE ones, 3 carats and larger. The first company, Gemesis makes a 3 carat perfect yellow diamond in 3 days. Colorless will take longer (ironic since yellow ones are rarer in nature). The second company, Apollo diamond, is using a different process that makes diamond bricks. Usefull for making diamond wafers which in turn can be made into diamond chips! Eventually the entire industy will have to move away from silicon if Moore's law is to continue. (barring a dramatic shift in the way we design and make computers.)

De beers cartel is pissed naturally. Good those bastards need competition.
/cliffnotes

Interesting article if you got the time to read it. contains interesting facts about the de beers cartel for people who don't know already. Such as they're a monopoly, the maintian HUGE stocks of diamonds but keep supply down to keep prices high, etc...
Click to expand...

you sir are the man for making a useful cliffnotes.
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I concur, cheers fivespeed5! :beer:
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/takes a bow
 
I can forsee a few "accidents" DeBeers might throw at Gemesis and Apollo. Being creatures of habit, DeBeers would do anything to keep everything in status quo. However, change is inevitable.
 
did debeers ever do anything to combat those canadian diamonds? They were supposed be selling them really cheap? right?

i remember reading about them here a few months ago.
 
Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: ClueLis
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
Click to expand...

impossible?

I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.
Click to expand...

Doesn't sound like the General would let that happen though. 😉
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Agreed. He's out to take down DeBeers, not to fvcking fraternize with the enemy.
 
Originally posted by: Rallispec
did debeers ever do anything to combat those canadian diamonds? They were supposed be selling them really cheap? right?

i remember reading about them here a few months ago.
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Same here.

 
Originally posted by: ragazzo
supposedly, processors based on diamonds will be many times faster than the current ones heh
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Well they won't have to worry about heat. Think about cranking a Opteron up to 5ghz without a heatsink. So it is nt that it helps the design, but it takes off a major handicap that plags CPU's to this day

 
Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
Originally posted by: ClueLis
I figured this would inevitably happen. Before, DeBeers could lower the price slightly to keep it under the level of artificial diamonds. Now, that is impossible. Furthermore, buyers won't be so concerned with the political implications (ie conflict diamonds) that they would buying natural ones.
Click to expand...

impossible?

I think you're underestimating the power of concentration of wealth. debeers could very well buy out the companies mfg'ng this stuff and once again completely monopolize the market. the russians are the next ones to worry about.
Click to expand...

I think you are under estimating the possibilities of this. Its unlikely these two companies will sell out, DeBeers cant really do a damn thing at the moment.

As for the Polar Bear Diamonds, they arent much cheaper than DeBeers controlled diamonds, simply because the market, supply and demand.
 
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