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91TTZ

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I was thinking how the country seems to be getting dumber each year. It seems that states are looking for more and more ways to extract money from people because the states are spending more than they're bringing in. I was wondering why we seem to be getting more inefficient and I thought about a pretty basic fact: the poor reproduce at a much faster rate than the wealthy.

While people on this board are probably wealthier (or will be wealthier) than the general population, there are masses of complete degenerates that are feeding and breeding at a fast pace. Their kids will inherit the same poor genes and habits that their parents have, and they'll most likely need more assistance than the children of wealthier parents.

What can be done about this problem? It's not politically correct to suggest neutering women that are on welfare tand have 6 kids, but somewhere you have to make the decision that it's just not worth the future hassle of having to deal with this problem.

Another way to look at it is this: a country's productivity leads to its prosperity, and that prosperity is at stake when you have a system that forces the breadwinners to feed the deadbeats and degenerates who either refuse or are too stupid to support themselves. And yet those people are allowed to continue breeding, and the smaller number of offspring of the breadwinners will inevitably have to provide for the larger number of offspring of the poor. This puts a drag on the productivity of the country as whole. A side effect of our current system is that it lets the genes of the unwilling/unable spread at a faster rate than the willing/able, essentially pissing in our gene pool.
 
Toastedlightly

Toastedlightly

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Well, I'll be doing my part (once I find a woman who wishes to 'smash together the not so good looking'). 3 kids is my goal! Positive birthrate ftw!
 
meltdown75

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dude you make those less fortunate sound like animals. "breeding". "offspring".

i'm not ripping on you for it, i'm just saying... they are human beings too. how many people get to choose where they begin their lives? zero. a human life is a human life IMO. no one has the right to judge or look down upon people that aren't well-off or priveleged.

having said that, i think the only realistic thing that can be done is to promote birth control and safe sex... not just among the poorer segment of the population though. i predict you will get flamed for this post. g/l
 
Leros

Leros

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Its a tricky situation. Like you said, a fast growing population of lower class people is going to cause some problems. I don't see much else you can do while still treating them like people though.

The situation will balance itself out somehow. Absolute worst case: the country will collapse upon itself, there won't be enough food to go around, and the poor will die from starvation. Balanced.
 
zinfamous

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there is no "poor gene," dumbass.

poverty is a condition of society and habit.
 
Cogman

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The average American already has a lower IQ, and unfortunately the trend seems to be downward. For whatever reason, the American media and public love to ridicule Intelligence and make it seem to be a bad thing. They like to encourage behavior that is unintelligent while simultaneously pushing stereo types that are just as bad as the "Dumb Jock" stereo type.

For example, if you think of someone that is going to Computer Engineering, what do you see? A thin (or fairly thick) out of shape man that wears glass, is mostly unattractive, and has no social abilities. Is that about correct? For most of the public, yes, it is. And that is where the problem starts, because of that stereo type people will instantly say "Ill never do that course because I'm not like that" even though they are perfectly capable and might even enjoy it.
 
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91TTZ

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
dude you make those less fortunate sound like animals. "breeding". "offspring".

i'm not ripping on you for it, i'm just saying... they are human beings too. how many people get to choose where they begin their lives? zero. a human life is a human life IMO. no one has the right to judge or look down upon people that aren't well-off or priveleged.
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They are the offspring of human beings that have sunk to the bottom of the gene pool. It surprises me to see that most people fully understand how genetics works and understand that you can breed traits in all plants and animals, yet when someone (correctly) states that those concepts also apply to humans, there is an outrage and denial to believe that.

Yet it's correct. Humans reproduce by sexual reproduction and genetic traits are passed along. People are fooling themselves if they deny that more undesirable traits are present in poor communities than in rich communities, helping contribute to the fact that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
 
KK

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Poor dumb people are going to reproduce faster, they are idiots. did you expect them to be busy working?
 
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91TTZ

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
there is no "poor gene," dumbass.

poverty is a condition of society and habit.
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Hello, dumbass. You are so woefully mislead.

While there is no "poor gene", there are genes which help determine one's IQ. That, in turn, influences the person's ability to learn and make money.

Secondly, you mention habit. Who do you think is going to instill habits in their children? The parent. A poor parent will be more likely to instill "poor" habits in their children than a rich parent.


But thanks for making yourself look like a fool on a public forum.
 
meltdown75

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: meltdown75
dude you make those less fortunate sound like animals. "breeding". "offspring".

i'm not ripping on you for it, i'm just saying... they are human beings too. how many people get to choose where they begin their lives? zero. a human life is a human life IMO. no one has the right to judge or look down upon people that aren't well-off or priveleged.
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They are the offspring of human being that have sunk to the bottom of the gene pool. It surprises me to see that most people fully understand how genetics works and understand that you can breed traits in all plants and animals, yet when someone (correctly) states that those concepts also apply to humans, there is an outrage and denial to believe that.

Yet it's correct. Humans reproduce by sexual reproduction and genetic traits are passed along. People are fooling themselves if they deny that more undesirable traits are present in poor communities than in rich communities, helping contribute to the fact that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
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why don't you tell us about your background and upbringing? i'm curious to know what surroundings were required to create a superior life.
 
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Originally posted by: meltdown75

why don't you tell us about your background and upbringing? i'm curious to know what surroundings were required to create a superior life.
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I was born in a middle class family and was taught to pay attention, learn, stay out of trouble, and work for what I wanted. At the most basic level of my existence I work for what I have... I do not beg for it or expect others of the government to provide for me. I was taught not to spend money that I don't have and therefore have no debt.

I don't claim to be a superior life but I do work, support myself, and pay taxes so that others can sit home, have sex, rack up debt and produce children which will require a subsidized life.
 
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mundane

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So if certain groups constitute a disproportionate percentage of the poor, does that imply they have inferior genes and ideally (for the good of the species) should be bred out?
 
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txrandom

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Poor people have been reproducing more often than the rich since the beginning of time.
 
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Patt

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: meltdown75

why don't you tell us about your background and upbringing? i'm curious to know what surroundings were required to create a superior life.
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I was born in a middle class family and was taught to pay attention, learn, stay out of trouble, and work for what I wanted. At the most basic level of my existence I work for what I have... I do not beg for it or expect others of the government to provide for me. I was taught not to spend money that I don't have and therefore have no debt.

I don't claim to be a superior life but I do work, support myself, and pay taxes so that others can sit home, have sex, rack up debt and produce children which will require a subsidized life.
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Everything you are listing is about being taught something ... it isn't breeding, it is upbringing.
 
jpeyton

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I don't claim to be a superior life but I do work, support myself, and pay taxes so that others can sit home, have sex, rack up debt and produce children which will require a subsidized life.
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Some of the richest, most powerful men in our nation rack up more debt than the poor ever will.

Even better, they've found a way to make you legally responsible for their irresponsibility.
 
cubeless

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: zinfamous
there is no "poor gene," dumbass.

poverty is a condition of society and habit.
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Hello, dumbass. You are so woefully mislead.

While there is no "poor gene", there are genes which help determine one's IQ. That, in turn, influences the person's ability to learn and make money.

Secondly, you mention habit. Who do you think is going to instill habits in their children? The parent. A poor parent will be more likely to instill "poor" habits in their children than a rich parent.


But thanks for making yourself look like a fool on a public forum.
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i question who b the fool... that's nazi think on your part, methinks... we best start gassin' them poor folk...

i grew up 'poor'... my mom worked like a mule for low wages to raise 4 kids... i ain't poor now, and neither is she... you can overcome circumstances if you don't blame others for them and bust your ass... too bad it's a lot easier to be a lazy dumbass than a hard working dumbass...



 
Sumguy

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: meltdown75
dude you make those less fortunate sound like animals. "breeding". "offspring".

i'm not ripping on you for it, i'm just saying... they are human beings too. how many people get to choose where they begin their lives? zero. a human life is a human life IMO. no one has the right to judge or look down upon people that aren't well-off or priveleged.
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They are the offspring of human beings that have sunk to the bottom of the gene pool. It surprises me to see that most people fully understand how genetics works and understand that you can breed traits in all plants and animals, yet when someone (correctly) states that those concepts also apply to humans, there is an outrage and denial to believe that.

Yet it's correct. Humans reproduce by sexual reproduction and genetic traits are passed along. People are fooling themselves if they deny that more undesirable traits are present in poor communities than in rich communities, helping contribute to the fact that the rich get richer while the poor get poorer.
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Yes, because an understanding of how social systems work and how to use them to your advantage (rich people) is all genetics. Seriously, it has absolutely nothing to do with being exposed to such an environment.

You might want to rethink what you just said and try again. I know you were hinting at intelligence, but I can assure you that idiots exist in the "higher echelon" of society.
 
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