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n0x1ous said:
Same here. can't get more than 50mhz out of mine on stock voltage

Im still dreaming about this overclockers dream
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I refused to purchase a new AMD card after that.
I'll wait til Arctic Islands to get a new AMD card.
Lying about a luxury level product sets me off to no end especially since I love luxury products.
 
tential said:
Great for them, tbh, amd has shown how much they care about enthusiasts with this to me though. I'll be wary of picking up any flagship product day 1 from them now.
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This has nothing to do with AMD. They didn't lock the voltage; there just weren't any tools available to adjust it. The only tool that AMD is responsible for is Overdrive, and that never had voltage adjustment. Unless you can get confirmation from MSI that AMD is the reason this took so long, you're getting angry over nothing.
 
Techhog said:
This has nothing to do with AMD. They didn't lock the voltage; there just weren't any tools available to adjust it. The only tool that AMD is responsible for is Overdrive, and that never had voltage adjustment. Unless you can get confirmation from MSI that AMD is the reason this took so long, you're getting angry over nothing.
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I recall Alex of Uniwider saying that Nvidia worked directly with him for getting OC/OV out on 980 Ti so quickly.

Let me see if I can find it...

EDIT: Digging through the posts, but starting to think I remembered it wrong. I believe he said something more along the lines NV uses a standard which makes it easier for integration to AB, not that they work directly with him. I'll keep checking.
 
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railven said:
I recall Alex of Uniwider saying that Nvidia worked directly with him for getting OC/OV out on 980 Ti so quickly.

Let me see if I can find it...

EDIT: Digging through the posts, but starting to think I remembered it wrong. I believe he said something more along the lines NV uses a standard which makes it easier for integration to AB, not that they work directly with him. I'll keep checking.
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Yea, that's imo highly unlikely from a corporate perspective and with their history with greenlight. About the most I would expect is that they don't go out of their way to nerf voltage control any more than they already do. As for the Fury I would assume it is slow going because it is a brand new card and because it is so rare it's taken him a long while to get one into to dev on.
 
thesmokingman said:
Yea, that's imo highly unlikely from a corporate perspective and with their history with greenlight. About the most I would expect is that they don't go out of their way to nerf voltage control any more than they already do. As for the Fury I would assume it is slow going because it is a brand new card and because it is so rare it's taken him a long while to get one into to dev on.
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Yeah, from reading his history it seems MSI hadn't sent him a Fury X or Fury. Only reason OC support is coming out soon is because he got a Fury Nano.

Meanwhile, MSI gave him a GTX 980 Ti back in June and he's had a 980 Ti Lightning since July from his posts.
 
railven said:
Yeah, from reading his history it seems MSI hadn't sent him a Fury X or Fury. Only reason OC support is coming out soon is because he got a Fury Nano.

Meanwhile, MSI gave him a GTX 980 Ti back in June and he's had a 980 Ti Lightning since July from his posts.
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Doesn't really matter to me from a consumer standpoint. Nvidia gets it, AMD is waiting. No matter the reason, it's ALWAYS the same story, I'm waiting when I choose AMD.
 
Found the post I read a while ago:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5110209&postcount=4

t is not a question of "strange decision by AMD" at all. It is a question of very limited AMD ADL API. NVIDIA cards simply have unified GPIO/VID based voltage control functions inside NVAPI, so it is very easy and fast to support voltage control on new cards (within driver allowed voltage control range of course) or even provide voltage control for future cards without even seeing them.
It doesn't apply to AMD. To support voltage control on new cards developers first need to implement low-level I2C aceess support for each new GPI family (which can be troublesome for new GPU architecture), then provide support for each new voltage controller model. That's not the task that can be done without hardware.

Alexey Nicolaychuk aka Unwinder, RivaTuner creator
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Yeah, it wasn't that NV was working directly with him. It was as I second remembered, NV has a more direct implementation.
 
tential said:
Doesn't really matter to me from a consumer standpoint. Nvidia gets it, AMD is waiting. No matter the reason, it's ALWAYS the same story, I'm waiting when I choose AMD.
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Oh, I agree. Even more so the way it was marketed, as the Overclockers dream.

That little slogan is gonna haunt them for a while.
 
railven said:
Oh, I agree. Even more so the way it was marketed, as the Overclockers dream.

That little slogan is gonna haunt them for a while.
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#1 reason I didn't buy fury x. Did they think I wasn't going to find out the card had no oc headroom? That's so cute!
Most blatant lie ever.
 
railven said:
Yeah, from reading his history it seems MSI hadn't sent him a Fury X or Fury. Only reason OC support is coming out soon is because he got a Fury Nano.

Meanwhile, MSI gave him a GTX 980 Ti back in June and he's had a 980 Ti Lightning since July from his posts.
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I do recall reading somewhere though that nVidia voltage control is more or less the same on all of their cards to implement but with AMD each GPU is more like starting from scratch.


Edit: See where you found the post.
 
tential said:
#1 reason I didn't buy fury x. Did they think I wasn't going to find out the card had no oc headroom? That's so cute!
Most blatant lie ever.
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wasnt a official statement.
one guy was high and talked about stuff he didnt understand.
 
tential said:
Doesn't really matter to me from a consumer standpoint. Nvidia gets it, AMD is waiting. No matter the reason, it's ALWAYS the same story, I'm waiting when I choose AMD.
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wasn't there a lot of noise about voltage control on the maxwell 2 cards when they came out? They did better on stock but there was definitely a problem there.

railven said:
He probably was high, but I doubt Joe Marci "didn't understand" what he was talking about.
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Or he had voltage control and saw 15-25% OC. Same as maxwell 2. Or he was talking about the overclockers who loved a challenge and would love having to hard mod the voltage for a whopping 1400 MHz OC at 1000W draw. Which would mean you aren't an "overclocker". These guys are overclockers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsN3r_gVJU None of that casual crap.

tl;dr learn which statements aren't likely to be hard facts. Even if Fury x was to overclock over 40% typically, you could still end up with a string of duds that can't do 15%.
 
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tential said:
#1 reason I didn't buy fury x. Did they think I wasn't going to find out the card had no oc headroom? That's so cute!
Most blatant lie ever.
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Most blatant lie ever? Not even close.

Nvidia 970 Lies

4GB RAM? Not really. 3.5GB + 0.5GB.
2MB L2 Cache? Nope. 1.75MB.
64 ROPS? Not even close. 56 ROPS.
 
Having voltage utilities come out for the "Overclockers dream" chip a few weeks after launch -- ok, not the end of the world but still sloppy. Having voltage utilities not come out for months after launching the "overclockers dream" chip -- inexcusable garbage-tier misstep.

How is not even a single person in the AMD marketing, GPU or executive groups seeing how much this undermines their reliability and brand? Are they asleep at the wheel? At this point you can't help but say "no doubt." It's like they don't even want to sell Fury GPUs that bad.
 
Azix said:
Or he had voltage control and saw 15-25% OC. Same as maxwell 2. Or he was talking about the overclockers who loved a challenge and would love having to hard mod the voltage for a whopping 1400 MHz OC at 1000W draw. Which would mean you aren't an "overclocker". These guys are overclockers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsN3r_gVJU None of that casual crap.
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You mean like I said a few months ago?

railven said:
I'll just assume the extra parts needed and electrician ship separately?
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Azix said:
tl;dr learn which statements aren't likely to be hard facts. Even if Fury x was to overclock over 40% typically, you could still end up with a string of duds that can't do 15%.
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Card isn't even out yet, but during the presentation they promote the cooler and how it can cool so much because it's an overclockers dream. You can argue all you want what that means. Most of us aren't going back to the glory days of pencil mods. But if that's what you interpreted it as, by all means.
 
I suppose after getting voltage control, Furiness could still turn out to be an overclockers dream? Just don't hold your breath.
 
railven said:
Found the post I read a while ago:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5110209&postcount=4



Yeah, it wasn't that NV was working directly with him. It was as I second remembered, NV has a more direct implementation.
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So, again, it wasn't something purposefully blocked by AMD. They could work on the API, but we'd need to know the actual reasons before we can come to a fair conclusion. It might be due to limited R&D, or it might be a weakness of GCN.
 
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