Fury X voltage adjustment now available

[Silverforce11]

390 would be in a much better spot if AMD enabled 4K VSR, had updated it to HDMI 2.0, and hadn't added that unnecessary VRAM(Shave another $30-50 off the price of the 390 and without that extra 4GB of VRAM and you have a card that decimates the NV lineup).

Just getting rid of the VRAM alone and dropping the price a little would make the card amazing. HDMI 2.0 support + 4K VSR as well? The 390 would be AMAZING. AMD went with pushing 4GB into the card vs other improvements the card actually could have used which is disappointing.

I agree with that sentiment, 8gb vram is overkill but here's the thing which I didn't see coming. From speaking with big etailers here, 390/X sell very well, that 8gb vram is a big selling point for the masses. Who would have thought? heh

Moar vram is betta...

 

[Azix]

8GB does look pretty nice. All things equal or close to equal it's hard for people to pass up the bigger number.


Are HWbot numbers inclusive of stock cards? I don't disagree about the typical limits, just saying the wording might have had some people expecting more. "its going to clock like every other GCN" doesn't = "overclockers dream" for many people. It really is subjective. AMD might think of an overclocker as someone who wants to get every inch out of a card regardless of relative numerical gains from the OC. So the water cooling plus high power limits might mean to some that its an overclocker's dream to play with. It's not "overclock like a dream"

Its similar with their 8-core CPUs. They are great at multithreaded, but single core performance is not as good. If you just say they are great even though most use cases are still single-threaded, people get the wrong idea and are disappointed. AMD seems to fall foul of interpretations often.

Should be noted that these claims aren't exactly printed on the product box AFAIK. Just some one-off statement by an employee or two.

 

[tential]

I agree with that sentiment, 8gb vram is overkill but here's the thing which I didn't see coming. From speaking with big etailers here, 390/X sell very well, that 8gb vram is a big selling point for the masses. Who would have thought? heh

Moar vram is betta...

Yes, I'm speaking from an enthusiast standpoint. From a retailer standpoint, I think AMD actually did do the right thing. 390 is a great card to SELL to the masses. I think if AMD had added HDMI 2.0 to the 390/x and 4K VSR, it wouldn't have a knock against it going up against the GTX 970. It would decimate it really. If the R9 390 had 4K VSR and HDMI 2.0, I'd have that card actually. Those were 2 easy things AMD could have done. Even the 4K VSR is still something AMD could fix and then I'd consider it again because R9 390 in CF for 4K? CF scaling is great. But without 4K VSR capability I can't get close to that 390.

But ya, I bet it does do well. AMD made the right move with 8GB of VRAM on those cards. More VRAM sells well. I'm wondering if we'll even see high stocks of Fury lineup ever.

How does it work with the next iteration of Fury using HBM2? is it just an incremental upgrade again of GCN or what?

 

[chimaxi83]

Came here looking for Fury voltage information. Who knows, maybe a new development. Left with a plethora of OT info.

D:

 

[tential]

Came here looking for Fury voltage information. Who knows, maybe a new development. Left with a plethora of OT info.

D:

There hasn't been anything new. It's been REALLY frustrating. I saw Wizzard's GTA 5 results, these BF4, and nothing else. But basically it's not that great and nothing to get excited about. OC on stock volts, or undervolt and keep stock clocks. T hose seem to be the best options.

 

[soccerballtux]

Yup, that's why when I looked to upgrade my 7950 rig, only one choice was obvious, R290X for ~half the price of 980s (not joking, brand new ASUS custom R290X is ~$430 vs $800 980s! Gigabyte R290X are ~$400), cheaper than 970. But they're going out of stock in most shops here, so people have to folk out more $ for 390/970 etc.

Fury X is $999 here, with most 980Ti models for $1099. The performance leap from $430 cool & quiet R290X is no way worth it.

what the frack is up with your country's taxes? in no way is any Australian firm ever going to break ground on a competing GPU design. This basically limits your quality of life for ... little perceivable benefit. I understand how it helps stimulate domestic consumption and I'm in favor of it then but in situations where there is no competition I would, personally, relax the rules (were I dictator)

 

[soccerballtux]

From an end-user point of view, you are exactly right. If the user doesn't care about power consumption and has the necessary power supply ready to go, then the GTX 970 loses some of it's appeal. The 970's main competitor is probably the 390 at this point, in which in the 390 may be a ever so slightly faster but the cheapest 970 is $30 less expensive than the cheapest 390 and the 970 also comes with AAA game right now (according to newegg.com). So from a value perspective, the GTX 970 is still looking fine. Even the GTX 980 is starting to look decent in the value proposition, with the ASUS Poisden being $460 After MIR + free game vs. the cheapest R9 390x at $430.

that 8GB VRAM is way more confidence inspiring than that 3.5 though

 

[soccerballtux]

Yes, I'm speaking from an enthusiast standpoint. From a retailer standpoint, I think AMD actually did do the right thing. 390 is a great card to SELL to the masses. I think if AMD had added HDMI 2.0 to the 390/x and 4K VSR, it wouldn't have a knock against it going up against the GTX 970. It would decimate it really. If the R9 390 had 4K VSR and HDMI 2.0, I'd have that card actually. Those were 2 easy things AMD could have done. Even the 4K VSR is still something AMD could fix and then I'd consider it again because R9 390 in CF for 4K? CF scaling is great. But without 4K VSR capability I can't get close to that 390.

But ya, I bet it does do well. AMD made the right move with 8GB of VRAM on those cards. More VRAM sells well. I'm wondering if we'll even see high stocks of Fury lineup ever.

How does it work with the next iteration of Fury using HBM2? is it just an incremental upgrade again of GCN or what?

bet they'll add in 4K VSR later. They've typically been a couple years behind NVidia regarding features. It wasn't until 2012 or so that alt-tab with multiple monitors in UT3 worked cleanly. They have the features I care about now though (80/20 rule) so I won't be tempted to go NVidia for a while so long as they're priceperformance competetive

 

[twjr]

what the frack is up with your country's taxes? in no way is any Australian firm ever going to break ground on a competing GPU design. This basically limits your quality of life for ... little perceivable benefit

I'm not sure it has that much to do with taxes. The AUD has plummeted lately. Though even when it was above parity we still paid more than the US. We are told its the 'Australia tax'. Things cost more to ship. Companies have to cover for the tighter consumer protection. In reality I think it is just companies charging the highest price the market can bare. When you are an isolated country with a small population you have to bear a lot.

 

[tential]

bet they'll add in 4K VSR later. They've typically been a couple years behind NVidia regarding features. It wasn't until 2012 or so that alt-tab with multiple monitors in UT3 worked cleanly. They have the features I care about now though (80/20 rule) so I won't be tempted to go NVidia for a while so long as they're priceperformance competetive

VSR is the only feature I need. Once that works, I'm happy.
I just don't like the GTX 970 VRAM like you said, so then it's the GTX 980, and I don't need a card that expensive when the R9 390/x can do the same. I just can't make myself purchase it. So I'll just wait til next year and make it work.

 

[soccerballtux]

I'm not sure it has that much to do with taxes. The AUD has plummeted lately. Though even when it was above parity we still paid more than the US. We are told its the 'Australia tax'. Things cost more to ship. Companies have to cover for the tighter consumer protection. In reality I think it is just companies charging the highest price the market can bare. When you are an isolated country with a small population you have to bear a lot.

oh, I thought it was import tariff.

 

[Headfoot]

I want to see the overclock tested in games that are more demanding than BF3. I wonder if it will scale better in more modern games. I would expect at least marginally so. We'll have to wait for when the utility is released to the public

 

[parvadomus]

What AMD needs is to resolve driver overhead ASAP. IMO a stock Fury should be almost equal to a 980TI with proper drivers/dx12. Fury X should be like 5-10% faster average if properly tunned.

 

[tential]

What AMD needs is to resolve driver overhead ASAP. IMO a stock Fury should be almost equal to a 980TI with proper drivers/dx12. Fury X should be like 5-10% faster average if properly tunned.

Hey if drivers can save fury great. Ive saved a couple thousand over the last month's and will continue to save for awhile. If fury x pulls ahead or even gains enough performance then I'll consider it. But the 980ti oced is so powerful that it's hard to ignore. Knowing every game I'll play will run at max dsr I pick (because I can pick any level with dsr unlike vsr) will be nice.

I pray fury x gets some update that closes the gap because I want that clc.


I hope wc becomes standard on both vendors flagship cards next gen. That will make the choice much easier.

 

[soccerballtux]

Hey if drivers can save fury great. Ive saved a couple thousand over the last month's and will continue to save for awhile. If fury x pulls ahead or even gains enough performance then I'll consider it. But the 980ti oced is so powerful that it's hard to ignore. Knowing every game I'll play will run at max dsr I pick (because I can pick any level with dsr unlike vsr) will be nice.

I pray fury x gets some update that closes the gap because I want that clc.


I hope wc becomes standard on both vendors flagship cards next gen. That will make the choice much easier.

if the 980Ti couldn't overclock I think it would be a much closer battle. I would probably go Fury then.

 

[tential]

if the 980Ti couldn't overclock I think it would be a much closer battle. I would probably go Fury then.

What's a GTX 980 Ti?

Edit: The LARGEST reason I'm holding out, is if AMD can get Fury X performance fast enough via driver updates, it will be worth the wait for me.
It seems AMD and Nvidia are trading some blows here. AMD got called out on their reference coolers, they made sure the coolers this lineup were great. They made sure you couldn't even get a bad cooler if you wanted to (So I guess kudos to AMD for protecting their customers in that regard? If I was AMD that's how I would have marketed it. Nvidia would have done it in their situation lol). AMD has now made CLC the highend "standard". I hope Nvidia follows that trend with Pascal and that AMD doesn't drop CLC for high end. Both high end cards being CLC means that I don't have to pick to get that option =D.

 

[LTC8K6]

What's a GTX 980 Ti?

It's a graphics card. :biggrin:

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980-ti

 

[wege12]

Any word on when this voltage control software for the Fury X might be released to the public?

 

[3DVagabond]

Any word on when this voltage control software for the Fury X might be released to the public?

I'm really questioning the results since W1zzard doesn't seem to be in any rush to let us try it for ourselves.

 

[wege12]

I'm really questioning the results since W1zzard doesn't seem to be in any rush to let us try it for ourselves.

Yeah, it does seem a little odd that he hasn't released it yet if it is truly functional. I really just want to see how far I can push my Fury X.

 

[n0x1ous]

Yeah, it does seem a little odd that he hasn't released it yet if it is truly functional. I really just want to see how far I can push my Fury X.

Same here. can't get more than 50mhz out of mine on stock voltage

Im still dreaming about this overclockers dream

 

[railven]

Same here. can't get more than 50mhz out of mine on stock voltage

Im still dreaming about this overclockers dream

Sad thing, unless improvements come with drivers, Fable benchmarks show there is slim difference between a 290x/390/390x and a Fury/Fury X/Fury Nano.

And those actually OC!

 

[dacostafilipe]

Fury @ 1437Mhz Core and 1025mhz HBM on LN2

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18693939

 

[n0x1ous]

Sad thing, unless improvements come with drivers, Fable benchmarks show there is slim difference between a 290x/390/390x and a Fury/Fury X/Fury Nano.

And those actually OC!

Yeah, but AMD did say they have a new driver that improves Fiji performance for it, but it wasn't done in time for testing.

 

[railven]

Yeah, but AMD did say they have a new driver that improves Fiji performance for it, but it wasn't done in time for testing.

Yeah, I saw that after my post. They need to draw a wider margin from the 390X. The other review sites should update their charts, immediately.