Fury cards will NOT have HDMI 2.0 outputs

[tential]

Oh come on...how much did your TV cost? I'd wager that the Panasonics are similarly-priced. In your case it doesn't matter, but for those who have been holding off on a TV purchase then this at least tells them what brand they need to get.



WHERE can we find active converters "this summer" though? AmdMATT is a marketing guy, it's surprising he can even spell "hdmi", and he took an awfully long time before "clarifying" things. He got that entire post from Lisa Su or somebody very high up in the GPU food chain at AMD at least, and THAT person has no concrete info on the availability of active adapters, either.

Why are we supposed to get indignant at NV when they nefariously steal .5gb of our Ram but give a pass to AMD when they aggressively fudge the numbers on such a hot-button issue?

I'm holding off on my 4k purchase for this release. Unless the Panasonic is over 60 inches then it's not worth it to me. I preferably want 80 inches.

My TV wasn't much like 2.5k? My projector was 750? I love TV so my TV isn't a monitor it's everything I watch a lot of TV. 28tb of hdd storage lol

 

[96Firebird]

I did link a thread here (or may be another thread) and with a post from an owner no less. Now that you have mentioned it, i looked it up and even tech-radar says that 960 is also HDCP compliant. I tried looking this up at Nvidia after seeing that post on AVS, but couldn't find much. This is really helpful. cheers. checking more on the same. if you have some helpful links detailing what support it has for streaming audio etc., post that as well.

This information is not readily available, it is amazing how hard you have to search to find the truth. HDCP should just go away, it provides no purpose and has not stopped pirating in the slightest.

 

[JDG1980]

HDCP should just go away, it provides no purpose and has not stopped pirating in the slightest.

It should go away, but the studios are going to keep shoveling sand against that tide, doing nothing but inconveniencing legitimate users in the process.

 

[Kallogan]

it's way too soon to go for 4k anyway imo, stick on 1440p

 

[Attic]

The bad news is 90% of those who skip Fury cards because of this will likely never even get a 4k display, let alone use it for PC gaming, within the 12 months to two years they actually own and use the card. The good news is most of them would have found another excuse to cross Fury off their list anyway, so it's not like AMD will lose a lot of revenue because of this missing feature.

HDMI 2.0 compatibility is completely irrelevant for me and most gamers who run 1920x1080, 1920x1200, or 1440p displays.

Agree mostly, except I think it will cost AMD legit and honest well reasoned buyers. A lot of gamers are forward looking.

Fury X should run to 4k screens that have HDMI 2.0 without the need for an adapter, because this is going to be something a number of folks may want to use it for in the future.

I'm more partial to TV support because i've been gaming on one for over 10 years, since I had to run S-Video to one from my GPU. Adapters are bad, there's limited space in cabinets for extra protrusions and adapters are another point of failure.

 

[crashtech]

This 4K monitor has DP, there's a thread about it over at overclocker.net that I haven't been able to dive into yet. It's about $100 more than the TV I wanted to get.

 

[tential]

This 4K monitor has DP, there's a thread about it over at overclocker.net that I haven't been able to dive into yet. It's about $100 more than the TV I wanted to get.

I don't mean to be rude but at 42 inches it's barely a TV for me. 50 inches feels unbearably tiny but I still would do it. I really wanted 70+ but the price isn't bad. Problem is, it's gtx 980ti + 450 or fury x + 700.

I'll give fury a 100 discount for wc and extra 50 since 980ti isn't aftermarket so it still leaves me with a 100 premium for the fury x and that doesn't factor in the smaller display. But I'll get better response rate.

Ugh I am dying trying to decide

 

[Eymar]

You do have tough set of requirements tential. If it were me I'd base the first decision on what matters most and that looks like the TV for you. Then choose videocard after the TV choice.

 

[crashtech]

I don't mean to be rude but at 42 inches it's barely a TV for me. 50 inches feels unbearably tiny but I still would do it. I really wanted 70+ but the price isn't bad. Problem is, it's gtx 980ti + 450 or fury x + 700.

I'll give fury a 100 discount for wc and extra 50 since 980ti isn't aftermarket so it still leaves me with a 100 premium for the fury x and that doesn't factor in the smaller display. But I'll get better response rate.

Ugh I am dying trying to decide

Oh, I know exactly what you mean. My app is kind of a hybrid where viewing distance is across a big desk, about 3.5-4 feet, more distance than most monitors are used at, but less than most TVs. 40-50" class was the size range I wanted. My main TV is 60" but I'm ready for A BIGGER ONE.

 

[cbrunny]

I don't mean to be rude but at 42 inches it's barely a TV for me. 50 inches feels unbearably tiny but I still would do it. I really wanted 70+ but the price isn't bad. Problem is, it's gtx 980ti + 450 or fury x + 700.

I'll give fury a 100 discount for wc and extra 50 since 980ti isn't aftermarket so it still leaves me with a 100 premium for the fury x and that doesn't factor in the smaller display. But I'll get better response rate.

Ugh I am dying trying to decide

Based on every other post you have made you don't have much interest in AMD. So get a 980ti. There no more dying inside. Problem solved.

 

[monstercameron]

Based on every other post you have made you don't have much interest in AMD. So get a 980ti. There no more dying inside. Problem solved.

But then he couldn't get salty on the internet.

 

[Creig]

I don't mean to be rude but at 42 inches it's barely a TV for me. 50 inches feels unbearably tiny but I still would do it.

1st world problems...

 

[bryanW1995]

This information is not readily available, it is amazing how hard you have to search to find the truth. HDCP should just go away, it provides no purpose and has not stopped pirating in the slightest.

I don't know why, but I've always had trouble finding things in those forums.

I don't mean to be rude but at 42 inches it's barely a TV for me. 50 inches feels unbearably tiny but I still would do it. I really wanted 70+ but the price isn't bad. Problem is, it's gtx 980ti + 450 or fury x + 700.

I'll give fury a 100 discount for wc and extra 50 since 980ti isn't aftermarket so it still leaves me with a 100 premium for the fury x and that doesn't factor in the smaller display. But I'll get better response rate.

Ugh I am dying trying to decide

Why are you so torn up about this? 980ti looks like it's roughly the same card as fury x, just buy the NV card and use whatever monitor/tv/projector/etc that you want.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Exactly. I could see the consternation if Fury X was the only choice but it's not Nvidia has fine cards that fill the need so no reason to get all bent out of shape. Find the 980Ti or Titan X you like and done, happy connecting.

 

[railven]

Exactly. I could see the consternation if Fury X was the only choice but it's not Nvidia has fine cards that fill the need so no reason to get all bent out of shape. Find the 980Ti or Titan X you like and done, happy connecting.

I'd recommend the EVGA 980 Ti Hybrid. That is my go to card if Fury X just collapses on itself.

Wednesday, I'm buying a new card. If anyone offers either card locally (microcenter, hook me up!) I'm so set!

 

[Shmee]

I thought DP was better anyway?

 

[tviceman]

I thought DP was better anyway?

TV's, don't use DP. Going 4k on a TV would be limited to 30 fps.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Some do be honest. Most don't but they should, HDMI is a money grab and it's not even that good there have been numerous issues over the years with the interface.

 

[tential]

Some do be honest. Most don't but they should, HDMI is a money grab and it's not even that good there have been numerous issues over the years with the interface.

I mean I'm more angry at amd for not including hdmi 2.0. But tvs should include display port. Clearly people hook tvs up to pcs. It's 2015,this shouldn't even be an issue this should just work at this point....

 

[railven]

I mean I'm more angry at amd for not including hdmi 2.0. But tvs should include display port. Clearly people hook tvs up to pcs. It's 2015,this shouldn't even be an issue this should just work at this point....

The fact that we have this cable divide, and throw Thunderbolt into the fray is just a pain in the ass.

HDMI was slowly unifying things but then Display port (which I find superior) came and brought us back to VGA/Composite days.

Either way, I don't plan on jumping to 4K until one card can power it and it looks like that won't be for a while. I don't watch enough TV/Media to justify a 4K TV (and the GF probably won't permit it either until we buy a bigger house haha).

 

[Grooveriding]

I mean I'm more angry at amd for not including hdmi 2.0. But tvs should include display port. Clearly people hook tvs up to pcs. It's 2015,this shouldn't even be an issue this should just work at this point....

TV standards have always been a mess since HD started. I hope they take a long time to start putting out native 4K movie content. I don't want to move away from plasma. My Kuro is still better than any LCD I've seen, but LCDs have come a long way. Still those black levels though... ugly stuff.

 

[AnandThenMan]

The fact that we have this cable divide, and throw Thunderbolt into the fray is just a pain in the ass.

HDMI was slowly unifying things but then Display port (which I find superior) came and brought us back to VGA/Composite days.

You have that backwards, HDMI is a proprietary connection Display port is not and can do everything and more that HDMI can. HDMI should have died long ago and if it did we would all be better off.

On Kuro it was finally equaled or perhaps bested by Panasonic shortly before they gave up on the plasma business. Incredible display I miss the Pioneer Elite stuff.

 

[railven]

You have that backwards, HDMI is a proprietary connection Display port is not and can do everything and more that HDMI can. HDMI should have died long ago and if it did we would all be better off.

HDMI appeared on the scene first, and while it is propietary it was also used on PC and Media (TV/DVRs/etc) which is what I referred to as it slowly started to unify things. Display port appeared almost five years later on the PC side and almost ten years after that has yet to be used in Media (TV/DVR's/ETC). Even DVI had a better penetration in that part than DP has had.

DP is definitely the superior tech, but HDMI got it's footing first and will most likely not go out. So we're back to the old days of PC's use VGA (DP) and TV's use Composite (HDMI). Buying adapters and specialty items that cater to intermixing.

On Kuro it was finally equaled or perhaps bested by Panasonic shortly before they gave up on the plasma business. Incredible display I miss the Pioneer Elite stuff.

It barely got edged out, but you know some people like to hang on to old things haha.

 

[xthetenth]

You do have tough set of requirements tential. If it were me I'd base the first decision on what matters most and that looks like the TV for you. Then choose videocard after the TV choice.

Graphics cards come and go, monitors/tvs last a lot longer. Never compromise on something that'll last a long time based on something that will be gone less than halfway into its lifetime unless the short span item would be way worse.

 

[x3sphere]

TV standards have always been a mess since HD started. I hope they take a long time to start putting out native 4K movie content. I don't want to move away from plasma. My Kuro is still better than any LCD I've seen, but LCDs have come a long way. Still those black levels though... ugly stuff.

OLED should be affordable soon. Prices are dropping fast. LG just reduced the price on its new 55" 4K OLED by another $1000 last week. You can find it for ~$4000 now, started $5500. By Black Friday it would not surprise me if we see sub $3K prices, and 2016 should bring even lower prices - I've read LG wants to sell over 1 million OLED sets next year.

And, OLED monitors coming next year:

http://www.oled-info.com/lg-display-enter-professional-oled-monitor-market-2016