Funny thing about this board....

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I don't know. I look at the liberal posters here and, with a few exceptions, they all have major issues or are just kids. Meanwhile, all the successful and well-adjusted people are conservatives. You'd think that would tell you something, but, no.

Aren't you the guy who was posting at ATOT about how he was BiPolar and had to take Meds just to get through each day? I guess by your discription you must be a Liberal!.[/quote]

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I don't know. I look at the liberal posters here and, with a few exceptions, they all have major issues or are just kids. Meanwhile, all the successful and well-adjusted people are conservatives. You'd think that would tell you something, but, no.

Aren't you the guy who was posting at ATOT about how he was BiPolar and had to take Meds just to get through each day? I guess by your discription you must be a Liberal!.

[/quote]

Um. No. With such a horrible memory, I hope you remember who to vote for when you are walked over to the voting booth.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I don't know. I look at the liberal posters here and, with a few exceptions, they all have major issues or are just kids. Meanwhile, all the successful and well-adjusted people are conservatives. You'd think that would tell you something, but, no.

Aren't you the guy who was posting at ATOT about how he was BiPolar and had to take Meds just to get through each day? I guess by your discription you must be a Liberal!.

Um. No. With such a horrible memory, I hope you remember who to vote for when you are walked over to the voting booth.[/quote]
LOL.. Man I'm sorry, you are right, I got you confused with HelloDeli. I'm getting everything wrong today. I must be in a Conservative mood! LOL:laugh:

 

[MonstaThrilla]

What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

Exactly.

There has been so much rhetoric and baseless accusations made by the Bush fans in the last weeks it's pathetic! They are literally running themselves ragged trying to come up with the latest list of easily-disproven talking points and spewing out quick one-liners and soundbite posts that are completely baseless.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

Exactly.

There has been so much rhetoric and baseless accusations made by the Bush fans in the last weeks it's pathetic! They are literally running themselves ragged trying to come up with the latest list of easily-disproven talking points and spewing out quick one-liners and soundbite posts that are completely baseless.

Well, when the liberal policy (all the way up from the bitter birkenstock-wearing hippy on Telegraph to the Senate floor) is SOLELY to sit back and criticize while not doing a damn thing themselves it's tough to find something other than their criticism to criticize. 😉

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I don't know. I look at the liberal posters here and, with a few exceptions, they all have major issues or are just kids. Meanwhile, all the successful and well-adjusted people are conservatives. You'd think that would tell you something, but, no.

Aren't you the guy who was posting at ATOT about how he was BiPolar and had to take Meds just to get through each day? I guess by your discription you must be a Liberal!.

Um. No. With such a horrible memory, I hope you remember who to vote for when you are walked over to the voting booth.

LOL.. Man I'm sorry, you are right, I got you confused with HelloDeli. I'm getting everything wrong today. I must be in a Conservative mood! LOL:laugh:[/quote]

Ironically, HelloDeli is a liberal. 🙂 🙂

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: irwincur
Liberals are always correct, or they assume that they are correct. This is one of the major flaw of the 'elite' left. They think that they are smarter, better, and more worldly than the bumpkin Conservatives in the world. Well, it is all just a desperate attempt to try to claw back up from the pit history. Liberal influence had been flagging for a long time, is it surprising to see them resort to desperate measures to try to regain any of their former glory.

Here is a hint to all liberals... You are not smarter than me, you are not better then me, and you sure as hell are not more worldy. Lastly, you are not hippies, quit trying to re-enact one of the most worthless social movements in the history of America. Also, if you hate America, leave.

Post-of-the-year---all in favor?


Aye.


if you are ever in the D.C. area, sir, adult beverages are on me.

Seriously, you're better than this, JG.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

Exactly. In my discussions on this board, the one thing I've noticed is that while there is an abundance of extremists on both sides of the spectrum, in the end the overall level of debate is remarkably neutral.

 

[Chumster]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL, this thread is a perfect example of a Troll thinly disguised as a political thread. The OP starts off complaining about being insulted by those whom he disagrees with politically and proceeds to insult them himself followed by more insults by those who also feel they are Political Martyrs from the Far Right.

That said, even though their high pitched shrill whines were ear peircing at least those who were on the Far Right during the Clinton Administration didn't portray themselves as victims (probably because they knew they were the ones doing the victimizing) Todays Far Right reminds me exactly of how Bill Clinton portrays himself in his book. Like Bubba, they refuse to acknowledge their own faults and blame them on their political opponents. Only a myopic Partisan can not say how disapointed they must be in the Dub. I know if the guy I voted for in 2000, John McCain, had won and then went on to screw up as bad as the Dub that I would be ashamed of my choice and I definately wouldn't become a McCain apoligist just to try and validate my choice as the correct one.

:thumbsup:

Well said.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

Exactly.

There has been so much rhetoric and baseless accusations made by the Bush fans in the last weeks it's pathetic! They are literally running themselves ragged trying to come up with the latest list of easily-disproven talking points and spewing out quick one-liners and soundbite posts that are completely baseless.

Well, when the liberal policy (all the way up from the bitter birkenstock-wearing hippy on Telegraph to the Senate floor) is SOLELY to sit back and criticize while not doing a damn thing themselves it's tough to find something other than their criticism to criticize. 😉

You see. There you go again with baseless rhetoric.

Seems my point I posted earlier has been missed:


No one political party is ever 100% right nor is it ever 100% wrong. Just so happens at this point in time, the majority of the Republican Party, overrun with neocons and neocon-wannabes, is in the wrong.

I'm sure at some point in the future that will change.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Orsorum


Seriously, you're better than this, JG.

Sadly, I am not 🙂 I think that is exactly what's wrong with the left..."Bush is a liar...anyone but Bush...Cheney this, Ashcroft that, Rice this, Rumsfeld that.... illegal war..." et al...Contrarian thoughts are presupposed "wrongs" to them nowadays. Clinton ran, and won, primarily based on a campaign of "change." 'We need change in America, and this is what I propose...? Brilliant glittering generality...it sold. He had a plan and he sold it like a 1973 mint Vega coupe 😉 The hate-mongers on the left fringes are hurting the party and they are gasping for air....and control nothing....yet assert to be mainstream ... and control nothing...so I am not so sure that I am better than that; that's for the left to claim...I'm just me and call them as I see them.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
What I find funny is how this thread displays the exact opposite of what the OP said was a "funny thing about this board..."

Exactly.

There has been so much rhetoric and baseless accusations made by the Bush fans in the last weeks it's pathetic! They are literally running themselves ragged trying to come up with the latest list of easily-disproven talking points and spewing out quick one-liners and soundbite posts that are completely baseless.

Woo Hoo!! I have hope that off of this thread that all of the others from the past couple of months are completely forgotten.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur
You see. No one political party is ever 100% right nor is it ever 100% wrong. Just so happens at this point in time, the majority of the Republican Party, overrun with neocons and neocon-wannabes, is in the wrong.

I'm sure at some point in the future that will change.

....That's why I got a week vacation? That's why others have, too?

Thats why you were gone for a week? damn they should have made it more, it was so nice without you here conjur....

Also regarding your first point, again your opinion of what is "wrong" is just that your opinion, plain and simple.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
You see. No one political party is ever 100% right nor is it ever 100% wrong. Just so happens at this point in time, the majority of the Republican Party, overrun with neocons and neocon-wannabes, is in the wrong.

I'm sure at some point in the future that will change.

....That's why I got a week vacation? That's why others have, too?

Thats why you were gone for a week? damn they should have made it more, it was so nice without you here conjur....

Also regarding your first point, again your opinion of what is "wrong" is just that your opinion, plain and simple.

Ah, so, Abu Ghraib and the attempts to subvert the Constitution and bypass the Geneva Conventions was a good thing?

The ever-growing deficit is a good thing?

The deception pulled by the administration in going to war is a good thing?

The secrecy and stonewalling tactics by the administration re:the 9/11 Commission, Energy Task Force, National Archivist selection, etc. are all good things?

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Originally posted by: biostud666
It's funny how everything is black or white.

:beer:

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Orsorum


Seriously, you're better than this, JG.

Sadly, I am not 🙂 I think that is exactly what's wrong with the left..."Bush is a liar...anyone but Bush...Cheney this, Ashcroft that, Rice this, Rumsfeld that.... illegal war..." et al...Contrarian thoughts are presupposed "wrongs" to them nowadays. Clinton ran, and won, primarily based on a campaign of "change." 'We need change in America, and this is what I propose...? Brilliant glittering generality...it sold. He had a plan and he sold it like a 1973 mint Vega coupe 😉 The hate-mongers on the left fringes are hurting the party and they are gasping for air....and control nothing....yet assert to be mainstream ... and control nothing...so I am not so sure that I am better than that; that's for the left to claim...I'm just me and call them as I see them.

Last I checked the Congress was split fairly evenly along party lines, and the 2000 presidential election was split 50/50 as well, as is the 2004 election so far.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Train
and whenever one of the "neocons" or "bushies" makes a valid point we are drowned out by kool aid and tin foil calls, which seems to be acceptable on this forum, but any such reference aimed at the liberals/dems gets slammed immediately

Train, generally, I have found that when the "neocons" or "bushies" make a valid point there is ZERO response or obvious squirming from the posters with opposing views. Additionally, I have made very harassing comments on things that I consider worthy of ridicule, and have never been slammed by the mods on them. But I also have received vacations for things that other posters would get a pass on. I do not presuppose that this is because I am a conservative, and even admit, partially, the cause is that my personality is a bit brash.

If you were a mod I do not think you would be able to put aside your political leanings to umpire this forum, and with that said, I do not think it is right to fault a mod for moderating with whatever their political leaning is.

Now it is time for all Conservatives to do what it is that partially separates us from those with liberal views.

That is to shut up, quit the damn whining, and keep educating those that do not posses our superior views.
😉

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: irwincur

2. The uranium documents were fake.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5524644

Looky here, a new article about the issue. You must have missed it because it didn't run on the front page of your local paper. Point: dig deeper, there is more than the headlines.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Remember Joseph Wilson?
Remember how he went to Niger a couple of years ago and found NO EVIDENCE and reported such when he returned?
Remember how Bush still used that claim in his SotU address?
Remember how Joseph Wilson wrote a public letter criticizing the administration's use of that false claim?
Remember how right after that his wife's name was leaked to Robert Novak by someone high up in the administration and that leak is now the subject of a criminal investigation?

3. Two warheads have been found, the other that were found recently did not contain wmd's. The warheads found were leftovers since the Iran/Iraq war. Btw they are still finding munition from ww1 in Europe.

OK, 2 with Mustard Gas in May, 2 with Sarin in May, and 12 with Sarin a week ago - how many is that?

I don't care about the age, they were still supposed to be destroyed. Now if he didn't bother to destroy those, why would he have destroyed the newest ones? It is amazing that you look for excuses, a violation is a violation. But since the liberals and the UN decided to give him over 24 chances, hell what's another one.

Links for those claims?

The 16 shells found last month by the Polish troops were found to contain NO EVIDENCE of any chemicals. Two were found to have traces of sarin but the shells were so badly corroded they were not usable and were only an environmental threat. Being as they were corroded so badly, it appears they were completely forgotten and left to rot by Saddam.

5. The basic services are down according to the GAO compared to pre war levels.

In Baghdad. How about the Shite and Kurdish towns that never had water or power?

Where do you get only Baghdad?

Learn how to read:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001968744_gao30.html

This post is a very good example of the actions of a good portion of the right-leaning members. First they post incorrect facts. It is pointed out to them that their facts are indeed incorrect. They get all pissy and talk sh!t to whomever dares to counter their 'facts'. When they are given links to show that, yes indeed they were wrong all along, they high-tail it out of here.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the rest of the right members put up with them.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Train
and whenever one of the "neocons" or "bushies" makes a valid point we are drowned out by kool aid and tin foil calls, which seems to be acceptable on this forum, but any such reference aimed at the liberals/dems gets slammed immediately

Train, generally, I have found that when the "neocons" or "bushies" make a valid point there is ZERO response or obvious squirming from the posters with opposing views.

Maybe so. It is much better than the neocon approach. When a Democrat makes a valid point, the neocons attack with ad homs, lies, and diversions. It would be better if they said nothing.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Train
and whenever one of the "neocons" or "bushies" makes a valid point we are drowned out by kool aid and tin foil calls, which seems to be acceptable on this forum, but any such reference aimed at the liberals/dems gets slammed immediately

..and they wonder why they do not control a single facet of government, though they are so mainstream American. Funny how that works, too. 🙂

That's what I was thinking. How come they control nothing nationally. Because they aren't mainstream. Sure they may have the people brainwashed in new england, but new england is not the country.

KK

Before you hurt yourself celebrating your mainstream-ness, remember Dubya did not win a plurality of the vote, let alone a majority. The Dub is not mainstream.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: irwincur

2. The uranium documents were fake.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5524644

Looky here, a new article about the issue. You must have missed it because it didn't run on the front page of your local paper. Point: dig deeper, there is more than the headlines.

Tsk tsk tsk.

Remember Joseph Wilson?
Remember how he went to Niger a couple of years ago and found NO EVIDENCE and reported such when he returned?
Remember how Bush still used that claim in his SotU address?
Remember how Joseph Wilson wrote a public letter criticizing the administration's use of that false claim?
Remember how right after that his wife's name was leaked to Robert Novak by someone high up in the administration and that leak is now the subject of a criminal investigation?

3. Two warheads have been found, the other that were found recently did not contain wmd's. The warheads found were leftovers since the Iran/Iraq war. Btw they are still finding munition from ww1 in Europe.

OK, 2 with Mustard Gas in May, 2 with Sarin in May, and 12 with Sarin a week ago - how many is that?

I don't care about the age, they were still supposed to be destroyed. Now if he didn't bother to destroy those, why would he have destroyed the newest ones? It is amazing that you look for excuses, a violation is a violation. But since the liberals and the UN decided to give him over 24 chances, hell what's another one.

Links for those claims?

The 16 shells found last month by the Polish troops were found to contain NO EVIDENCE of any chemicals. Two were found to have traces of sarin but the shells were so badly corroded they were not usable and were only an environmental threat. Being as they were corroded so badly, it appears they were completely forgotten and left to rot by Saddam.

5. The basic services are down according to the GAO compared to pre war levels.

In Baghdad. How about the Shite and Kurdish towns that never had water or power?

Where do you get only Baghdad?

Learn how to read:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001968744_gao30.html

This post is a very good example of the actions of a good portion of the right-leaning members. First they post incorrect facts. It is pointed out to them that their facts are indeed incorrect. They get all pissy and talk sh!t to whomever dares to counter their 'facts'. When they are given links to show that, yes indeed they were wrong all along, they high-tail it out of here.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why the rest of the right members put up with them.

You hit it on the nose Gaard.

 

[sandorski]

Nah, the Funny thing about this board is how Partisnas think the other Partisans are X and that they are Y. Y accuses X of being Z, when in reality Xand Y are Z, they just have differing opinions.

Discussion works when everyone sticks to the issue at hand, when they resort to "X is this" and "Y is that" they've lost the arguement.

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Baltazar325
I've thought for a long time that all of the threads in P&N could just be combined into one big sticky thread. It would save a lot of space. I mean, most of the threads are the same thing over and over again.

Oh well, still they are enjoyable to read.

Well, there is one poster that does come to mind. When you think about it, most threads under P&N have been mainly from one poster. However, I'm not sure what the true intent is. The intent is to smear Bush and his administration, but I'm not sure that's the real intent. I would have thought that one would have better (and more productive) things to do with their time.

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
I find it very funny how anyone that thinks Bush is a good president is "Blindly Following" or using "talking points" and anyone that is against Bush is "Correct".

It's painfully obvious that this board has no tollerance for the middle ground and the mods really don't enforce the no direct personal attack rule.

Oh, the personal attack rules are primarily enforced. I've learned not to attack people personally. 😉

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: conjur
You see. No one political party is ever 100% right nor is it ever 100% wrong. Just so happens at this point in time, the majority of the Republican Party, overrun with neocons and neocon-wannabes, is in the wrong.

I'm sure at some point in the future that will change.

....That's why I got a week vacation? That's why others have, too?

Thats why you were gone for a week? damn they should have made it more, it was so nice without you here conjur....

Also regarding your first point, again your opinion of what is "wrong" is just that your opinion, plain and simple.

Ah, so, Abu Ghraib and the attempts to subvert the Constitution and bypass the Geneva Conventions was a good thing?

The ever-growing deficit is a good thing?

The deception pulled by the administration in going to war is a good thing?

The secrecy and stonewalling tactics by the administration re:the 9/11 Commission, Energy Task Force, National Archivist selection, etc. are all good things?

"Silence is golden...gol-den"