FUNNAY! Georgians who censor "evolution"

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yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Rustynuts
I got your weeping "virgin" Mary statue right here!

Tell me she wasn't some whore who got a little on the side since her hubby couldn't "do it". Then claimed it was a miracle to prevent being stoned to death.

lol yea:) admit adultery back then? hahaha:)

all considering, it is amazing how intolerant the followers of a bastard child can be...

Rustynuts was banned for what he posted, but this post is brushed off?

Evolution is just as much of a religion as Christianity is. People get so caught up in what they believe they tend to bend the facts so it fits their beliefs.

There is evidence out there that goes against evolution

There is evidence out there that goes against creation

There's a reason for it, I just haven't figured out what it is yet.

In the meantime, enjoy your futile arguments.

There is overwhelming evidence that goes for evolution

There is no evidence that goes for creation

The only arguments creationists ever come up with is that evolution is improbable, therefore an all powerful being must have created everything.
 

MrCodeDude

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Jun 23, 2001
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How did Jimmy Fallon make the joke when he left the show? Did he return for tomorrow's episode or something?
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Rustynuts
I got your weeping "virgin" Mary statue right here!

Tell me she wasn't some whore who got a little on the side since her hubby couldn't "do it". Then claimed it was a miracle to prevent being stoned to death.

lol yea:) admit adultery back then? hahaha:)

all considering, it is amazing how intolerant the followers of a bastard child can be...

Rustynuts was banned for what he posted, but this post is brushed off?

Evolution is just as much of a religion as Christianity is. People get so caught up in what they believe they tend to bend the facts so it fits their beliefs.

There is evidence out there that goes against evolution

There is evidence out there that goes against creation

There's a reason for it, I just haven't figured out what it is yet.

In the meantime, enjoy your futile arguments.

There is overwhelming evidence that goes for evolution

There is no evidence that goes for creation

The only arguments creationists ever come up with is that evolution is improbable, therefore an all powerful being must have created everything.

Your post only confirms your ignorance.
 

yhelothar

Lifer
Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Rustynuts
I got your weeping "virgin" Mary statue right here!

Tell me she wasn't some whore who got a little on the side since her hubby couldn't "do it". Then claimed it was a miracle to prevent being stoned to death.

lol yea:) admit adultery back then? hahaha:)

all considering, it is amazing how intolerant the followers of a bastard child can be...

Rustynuts was banned for what he posted, but this post is brushed off?

Evolution is just as much of a religion as Christianity is. People get so caught up in what they believe they tend to bend the facts so it fits their beliefs.

There is evidence out there that goes against evolution

There is evidence out there that goes against creation

There's a reason for it, I just haven't figured out what it is yet.

In the meantime, enjoy your futile arguments.

There is overwhelming evidence that goes for evolution

There is no evidence that goes for creation

The only arguments creationists ever come up with is that evolution is improbable, therefore an all powerful being must have created everything.

Your post only confirms your ignorance.

Pot meets kettle :roll:
 

eshtog

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Jun 7, 2001
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have anyone of you heard of Dr Kent Hovind

HERE

he has soome interesting things to say and he has debated many scientist that beleive in evolution
 

OS

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:

Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.

 

Gurck

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Mar 16, 2004
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Originally posted by: eshtog
have anyone of you heard of Dr Kent Hovind

HERE

he has soome interesting things to say and he has debated many scientist that beleive in evolution

Thanks for the laugh :) Now for something actually informative, have a look at this, goes a long way toward explaining how so many can believe in something with no proof, though it doesn't really touch on the evolution of it and specifics of why it has been an advantageous trait.
 

Yzzim

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Feb 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:

Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.

You honestly think that evolution has all the answers and creation doesn't have any proof? You are a tool of your religion.
 

Spencer278

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Oct 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:

Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.

You honestly think that evolution has all the answers and creation doesn't have any proof? You are a tool of your religion.


1. There is nothing to support creations.
2. I don't look to scientific theorys to hold all the answers I look to them to be the best explention possible given the current knowloedge.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:
Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.
You honestly think that evolution has all the answers and creation doesn't have any proof? You are a tool of your religion.
You've called people ignorant for not believing in creationism 2-3 times now with nary an example of evidence for it and while completely ignoring that in favor of evolution - care to elucidate why you feel this way?

Most don't see everything in terms of religion. There are theories which I believe to be true, based on reasoning and logic.. this is not religion.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:

Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.

You honestly think that evolution has all the answers and creation doesn't have any proof? You are a tool of your religion.

Why don't you go let a priest molest you or something.
 

Yzzim

Lifer
Feb 13, 2000
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You've called people ignorant for not believing in creationism 2-3 times now with nary an example of evidence for it and while completely ignoring that in favor of evolution - care to elucidate why you feel this way?

Wow, talk about missing the entire point.

There's evidence out there that goes against creation. There's evidence out there that goes against evolution. People often bend and twist facts so that the information fits THEIR beliefs. They get so caught up in trying to disprove something that they don't take the time to see if their own belief is sound.

Most don't see everything in terms of religion. There are theories which I believe to be true, based on reasoning and logic.. this is not religion.

religion - A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion
 

M13

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I still have yet to find a suitable explanation for this situation:
Adam and Eve had 3 kids,
Cain killed Abel and was exiled,
So that leave Adam, Eve, and one kid, right?
Well, Cain went to the Land/Town of Nod, where he was exiled yet again.

...so where did those people come from if god only created two?


YET THIS IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTED while a whole string of evidence on religion is completely ignored


I have done some reading on this and if we evolved we would still have to populate by mating with the only ones available. It is hypothesized that Adam and Eve did in fact mate with their offspring. According to genetics, with that kind of genepool, there would not be genetic problems. In fact, it has been also shown that it is safer for siblings to marry each other than for cousins to marry. Genetically, cousins appear to more genetically related than with siblings. Would appreciate any other information on this. I think it is interesting.

As far as evolution and creation and science, what I have observed from both alike is that many times real science is tossed aside for that almighty dollar i.e. research funds. That bothers me more than the discussions of creation/evoluiton. I have known scientists to throw science to the wind in favor of provingthier theory in order to keep the greenbacks flowing. Marie Curie is my role model as to how real scientists should behave, She actually had people on her doorstep telling her that her experiments were conclusive enough but she wasn't satisfied. That is a mark of a dedicated scientist.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: Fausto
In related news: Georgia's public education is still a joke.
I wouldn't call providing a free, quality college education for anyone with decent grades a joke.
I was referring to K-12. Our University system is actually pretty damn good for the most part.

 

packmule

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I live in Georgia and wonder what are these people thinking? Ofcourse I grew up in Michigan and could not wait to get out of that god forsaken state because when I lived there I kept asking myself "what are these people thinking?"


hmmm... beginning to think it might be me...
 
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Originally posted by: sniperruff

lets just put it this way: science is repeatable, meaning that anyone, under the proper environments, can repeat what was proven. that is called a "fact", not a "theory".

as for religion, i'd like to see jesus to be borned again.

just wait he will be ;)
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Your post only confirms your ignorance.
Pot meets kettle :roll:

Serious, just cause you can accuse someone of being ignorant, doesn't mean that they are.

You honestly think that evolution has all the answers and creation doesn't have any proof? You are a tool of your religion.

Appears that you are a tool of your own religion
Go do some biology study yourself.
And improbability isn't a good argument as evidence against evolution.
 

ArmchairAthlete

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Dec 3, 2002
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I graduated from a public highschool in Georgia about half a year ago.

Evolution was taught, not creationism. Hadn't seen any big fuss over it locally.
 

cquark

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Originally posted by: Siva
Evolution is only a theory because its impossible to go back in time and actually watch it occur.

Facts and theories are completely different concepts in science. Evolution, the change in allele frequencies over time, is an observed fact from bacterial development of antibiotic resistance to the emergence of new plant and animal species that we've observed.

Natural selection is a theory that explains the fact of evolution, much like gravity is theory that explains the fact that objects fall towards other massive objects. There have been alternate theories that have attempted to explain the fact of evolution, such as Lamarck's theory of acquired characteristics, which have been disproven.

Creationism is not a theory, but rather a myth. Creationism offers no testable predictions and cannot be falsified. If the world appears old, the Creationists can say that it's because God made it appear old. There's no way to disprove it, as any evidence fits Creationism.

Why is the evolution debate important? Look at what history shows us when dogma trumps scientific fact: google for Lysenkoism, which is how the dogmatic Soviet interpretation of Lamarck's failed theory lead to the starvation and death of millions of Russians in the 20th century.
 

cquark

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Most "scientific/evolution" types that actually study this issue have theorized that there was some sort of "seeding" or other introduction(aliens?) of life to earth. This event could satisfy both theories.

No, that's not the case. Most scientists say that we don't know how abiogenesis occurred; while we have some hypotheses, we have no theories. However, abiogenesis is not evolution, where we have a very solid theory explaining the observed fact of evolution.

The holes in the fossil record indicate that there was some sort of event that made the planet populate almost instantly(in ~1million years or so which is instantly in evolution terms). Whether this was God, aliens, stuff clinging to a meteor or what is what nobody knows for sure.

No, life did not arise in approximately a million years either. The Earth was about a billion years old before we have any evidence of life.
 

cquark

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Originally posted by: Yzzim
You've called people ignorant for not believing in creationism 2-3 times now with nary an example of evidence for it and while completely ignoring that in favor of evolution - care to elucidate why you feel this way?

Wow, talk about missing the entire point.

There's evidence out there that goes against creation. There's evidence out there that goes against evolution.

Actually, there's no evidence against either. Creationism makes no definitive predictions, so there's no way to accumulate evidence against it. Evolution is an observed fact.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
"Earlier this year, science teachers howled when state Schools Superintendent Kathy Cox proposed a new science curriculum that dropped the word "evolution" in favor of "changes over time."

That plan was quickly dropped, but comic Jimmy Fallon still cracked wise on "Saturday Night Live": "As a compromise, dinosaurs are now called `Jesus Horses'." "

- Article
I'm in GA, went to public school here, and have been near Cox several times. I can say without reservation, that she is a b!tch, and it's sad there wasn't at least a homeless drunk on the ballot a couple weeks ago, because she'd have lost to him, I'm sure.

OTOH, evolution, random or otherwise, cannot be proven. Natural selection can. Because of that, I think they should dump evolution: the problem is that here, there are enough people that still want creationism :confused:.
 

yhelothar

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So what? Electricity cannot be proven, atomic structure cannot be proven. So they should just dump it? :disgust:
 

Yzzim

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Originally posted by: cquark
Originally posted by: Siva
Evolution is only a theory because its impossible to go back in time and actually watch it occur.

Facts and theories are completely different concepts in science. Evolution, the change in allele frequencies over time, is an observed fact from bacterial development of antibiotic resistance to the emergence of new plant and animal species that we've observed.

Natural selection is a theory that explains the fact of evolution, much like gravity is theory that explains the fact that objects fall towards other massive objects. There have been alternate theories that have attempted to explain the fact of evolution, such as Lamarck's theory of acquired characteristics, which have been disproven.

Creationism is not a theory, but rather a myth. Creationism offers no testable predictions and cannot be falsified. If the world appears old, the Creationists can say that it's because God made it appear old. There's no way to disprove it, as any evidence fits Creationism.

Why is the evolution debate important? Look at what history shows us when dogma trumps scientific fact: google for Lysenkoism, which is how the dogmatic Soviet interpretation of Lamarck's failed theory lead to the starvation and death of millions of Russians in the 20th century.

Sounds good to me :thumbsup: