FUNNAY! Georgians who censor "evolution"

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"Earlier this year, science teachers howled when state Schools Superintendent Kathy Cox proposed a new science curriculum that dropped the word "evolution" in favor of "changes over time."

That plan was quickly dropped, but comic Jimmy Fallon still cracked wise on "Saturday Night Live": "As a compromise, dinosaurs are now called `Jesus Horses'." "

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Conky

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Evolution is a theory. There are huge gaping holes in the fossil record.

The jump from pond scum to human has not been documented. :p
 

phonemonkey

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Evolution is a theory. There are huge gaping holes in the fossil record.

The jump from pond scum to human has not been documented. :p

In some humans, there really isn't much of a difference at all...
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: phonemonkey
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Evolution is a theory. There are huge gaping holes in the fossil record.

The jump from pond scum to human has not been documented. :p

In some humans, there really isn't much of a difference at all...

I am forced to agree...

 

0roo0roo

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heh, yea. its disingenuous to poke at evolution claiming that it doesn't have bullet proof evidence and then turn around and believe in magic:p
esp when basically evidence constantly mounts from different branches of science all pointing to the same thing. evolution:p
 

Chadder007

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That is pretty stupid to censor the actual word "evolution" but I do agree that they need to make sure that everyone knows that it is still and probably will forever be a theory. Besides....scientists can't get it right on such things as Vitamin E and Eggs, how can they be sure they have Evolution totally right either. Ahh, the Religion of Science.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
That is pretty stupid to censor the actual word "evolution" but I do agree that they need to make sure that everyone knows that it is still and probably will forever be a theory. Besides....scientists can't get it right on such things as Vitamin E and Eggs, how can they be sure they have Evolution totally right either. Ahh, the Religion of Science.
No, Art of Science. Religion calls for faith in the unprovable.
 

Antoneo

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
That is pretty stupid to censor the actual word "evolution" but I do agree that they need to make sure that everyone knows that it is still and probably will forever be a theory. Besides....scientists can't get it right on such things as Vitamin E and Eggs, how can they be sure they have Evolution totally right either. Ahh, the Religion of Science.
While I've heard about the contrary evidence on vitamin E, what's the story on eggs?

 

Armitage

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I can't help but think that alot of this controversy might go away ifthe scientific definition of the word theory wasn't at such odds with the common definition of the word theory.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Chadder007
That is pretty stupid to censor the actual word "evolution" but I do agree that they need to make sure that everyone knows that it is still and probably will forever be a theory. Besides....scientists can't get it right on such things as Vitamin E and Eggs, how can they be sure they have Evolution totally right either. Ahh, the Religion of Science.
No, Art of Science. Religion calls for faith in the unprovable.

Science calls for faith in Theories and the people who come up with them.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Chadder007
That is pretty stupid to censor the actual word "evolution" but I do agree that they need to make sure that everyone knows that it is still and probably will forever be a theory. Besides....scientists can't get it right on such things as Vitamin E and Eggs, how can they be sure they have Evolution totally right either. Ahh, the Religion of Science.
No, Art of Science. Religion calls for faith in the unprovable.

Science calls for faith in Theories and the people who come up with them.
BS, Science calls to investigate theories to try and prove or disprove them. Religion forbids any investigation that might disprove it.
 

Demon-Xanth

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The difference with science and religion, is that with science, you need to prove something is right for it to change. For religion, you can prove something is wrong and it still won't change. Also, scientists WILL change if given sufficient evidence.

I'm going to make a rough analogy:
Science:
"I think the inside of a tennis ball is green or white because that's what the outside is."
"Okay, prove it."
*cuts open tennis ball*
"Okay, the inside of the tennis ball is grey."

Religion:
"I think the inside of a tennis ball is green or white because that's what the outside is."
"Okay, prove it."
"You have to trust me on this."
"Well, lets cut open the tennis ball and look."
"We can't do that, it wouldn't be right."
"Why not?"
"It's just not right."
"Well, I think the inside of the tennis ball is probably grey or something like that."
"I just said the inside is green or white. Not grey."
"How do you know?"
"How do you know I'm wrong?"
"My buddy in China thinks the inside is red though."
"He's wrong."
"Why do you say that?"
"Because the inside is green or white."
"How do you know?"
"Prove me wrong."
"Okay, give me the tennis ball."
"I can't let you cut it open!"

Edit:
When religion and science meet:
"Hey, we cut open a tennis ball and the inside is grey!"
"That's just wrong! The inside is green and white!"
"Here's the tennis ball, it's grey."
"Well, this one is green and white."
"50 people have cut open tennis balls, they're all grey."
"So prove this one isn't green and white, without cutting it open."
"I can't do that, I'm not superman."
"So you admit I'm right."
"No, it's just that the evidence supports that it's going to be grey."
"That's just a theory."
"It's better than your theory."
"But I wrote down my theory in a book before yours. And it was told to me by some homeless guy when I was a kid. He's always right, so I know it's green and white."
 

nakedfrog

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Stuuuupid. I would certainly think any parent who wants to be sure their child is taught about creationism will already be sending them to Sunday School and church and such-like.
 
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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: biostud666
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Evolution is a theory.

So is religion :)

There's evidence backing up evolution though.

but not as much as the evidence backing up most religions. (everyother evolutionary discovery, debunks previous evolutionary facts, I've never seen any evidence to debunk any religious statements in the bible...archeology actually re-inforces the events in the bible)

believing in evolution for many people seems to me to be a polar opposites religion or something, it's based on beliefs that are unproven, many of which get disproven, and over time many more get disproven. most religious people have beliefs that are getting proven with each archeological discovery, nothing ever gets disproven (except for hoaxes/false religions of course). It's rather amusing to me.

don't get me wrong, I'm of the oppinion that the earth is way older than the 6000 years estimated by some biblical researchers, but I also belive that since God is omnipotent, that he also can control time, so 6000 years recorded could easily be 6 googleplex years to our miniscule understanding of space/time. I still believe their is a design to everything we see, many things in nature couldn't possibly have come to pass through random changes, there are too many things interwoven together that require extremely specific needs from everything in thier surroundings.

For religion, you can prove something is wrong and it still won't change
Have you ever seen anything prove something wrong in a religion?

Religion forbids any investigation that might disprove it.
That's quite possibly the most ignorent thing I've ever read, Religion is based on investigations to seek the truth of all things, religious scholors are constantly looking for things to prove/disprove religous beliefs, what they find are things that prove thier believes only because things that disprove them don't seem to exist, if you can't disprove something how can it be wrong?

/flamesuit on, while I run away to study proven faith, whilst you argue till your blue in the face about things that are not proven to be true.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: biostud666
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Evolution is a theory.

So is religion :)

There's evidence backing up evolution though.

but not as much as the evidence backing up most religions. (everyother evolutionary discovery, debunks previous evolutionary facts, I've never seen any evidence to debunk any religious statements in the bible...archeology actually re-inforces the events in the bible)

believing in evolution for many people seems to me to be a polar opposites religion or something, it's based on beliefs that are unproven, many of which get disproven, and over time many more get disproven. most religious people have beliefs that are getting proven with each archeological discovery, nothing ever gets disproven (except for hoaxes/false religions of course). It's rather amusing to me.

don't get me wrong, I'm of the oppinion that the earth is way older than the 6000 years estimated by some biblical researchers, but I also belive that since God is omnipotent, that he also can control time, so 6000 years recorded could easily be 6 googleplex years to our miniscule understanding of space/time. I still believe their is a design to everything we see, many things in nature couldn't possibly have come to pass through random changes, there are too many things interwoven together that require extremely specific needs from everything in thier surroundings.

Evidence that a man named Jesus lived around two thousand years ago is not evidence that we were *poof* created from thin air. Evolutionary discoveries, even when they show previous assumptions to be incorrect, still help to fill in the missing gaps in the Theory of Evolution.
 

Demon-Xanth

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I still have yet to find a suitable explanation for this situation:
Adam and Eve had 3 kids,
Cain killed Abel and was exiled,
So that leave Adam, Eve, and one kid, right?
Well, Cain went to the Land/Town of Nod, where he was exiled yet again.

...so where did those people come from if god only created two?


YET THIS IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTED while a whole string of evidence on religion is completely ignored.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
Originally posted by: Gurck
There's evidence backing up evolution though.
but not as much as the evidence backing up most religions
:confused: There is NO evidence backing up the existence of a deity or deities. The existence of a book means nothing. I have hundreds. Only god involved is a literary one - Stephen King :D