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Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
27,519
2
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"To see how the Titan pulled off the win, look no further than its performance at the test track. Truck owners love to talk numbers and the Titan turned in top results in nearly every category. Its 0-to-60-mph time of 7.7 seconds was a full half second ahead of the second-place Dodge, and when it was loaded down with a 6,000-pound trailer and three passengers, it extended its lead over the Ram to nearly three seconds (16.8 vs. 19.5). Test notes revealed that the Titan got off the line faster than every other truck in the test, unloaded or not, and maintained a strong, virtually uninterrupted pull thanks to seamless shifts from its five-speed gearbox."

BWHAHAHAH - Hemi-go-slow-what?
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
70,150
5
0
The dodge commercial shows a hemi dodge taking out the titan. Who's lying? I knew thet titan was better anyway.
 

johnjbruin

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2001
4,401
1
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The Titan didn't just win this test, it ran away with it. Such a result might seem like an improbable upset, but the numbers speak for themselves. It cleaned up at the test track, had the second lowest sticker price, offered the most desirable features and was every editor's number-one recommended pick. This wasn't the case of an upstart contender putting together a few key assets to slip into first place. No, this was the story of a truck that was built to beat the domestics at their own game and succeeded.

owned

w00t NISSAN 4EVA
 

CtK

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2001
5,135
3
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Originally posted by: johnjbruin
The Titan didn't just win this test, it ran away with it. Such a result might seem like an improbable upset, but the numbers speak for themselves. It cleaned up at the test track, had the second lowest sticker price, offered the most desirable features and was every editor's number-one recommended pick. This wasn't the case of an upstart contender putting together a few key assets to slip into first place. No, this was the story of a truck that was built to beat the domestics at their own game and succeeded.

owned

w00t NISSAN 4EVA

or untill the next Tundra comes out
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
25,577
10,265
136
Originally posted by: neovan
i've been considering trading in my 350z for a titan. any thoughts?
How bout an engine swap with a Titan?? Then you'll have a 350z that actually has 350+ hp!!!
 

bolido2000

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2001
3,720
1
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Originally posted by: CtK
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
The Titan didn't just win this test, it ran away with it. Such a result might seem like an improbable upset, but the numbers speak for themselves. It cleaned up at the test track, had the second lowest sticker price, offered the most desirable features and was every editor's number-one recommended pick. This wasn't the case of an upstart contender putting together a few key assets to slip into first place. No, this was the story of a truck that was built to beat the domestics at their own game and succeeded.

owned

w00t NISSAN 4EVA

or untill the next Tundra comes out

lol
when the next Tundra comes out I'm gonna say "wait until the next Titan comes out"
 

mAdD INDIAN

Diamond Member
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: CtK
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
The Titan didn't just win this test, it ran away with it. Such a result might seem like an improbable upset, but the numbers speak for themselves. It cleaned up at the test track, had the second lowest sticker price, offered the most desirable features and was every editor's number-one recommended pick. This wasn't the case of an upstart contender putting together a few key assets to slip into first place. No, this was the story of a truck that was built to beat the domestics at their own game and succeeded.

owned

w00t NISSAN 4EVA

or untill the next Tundra comes out

lol
when the next Tundra comes out I'm gonna say "wait until the next Titan comes out"

Pretty much. Every successive generation of trucks will end up having power than before. It happened in midsize cars (we went from having 120hp Camry's to 200+hp), it happened in economy cars (we went from 96-hp Corollas to 160hp Corollas) and now it will happen in trucks.

I'm waiting for TItan to come out wiht a diesel option, now that's a real truck. Imagine a 6L turbodiesel making roughly 560tq and 350hp.

mmm...torquey.
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
24,514
44
91
The thing about the Titan being the fastest while pulling a trailer bothered me a bit when they made the claim that the acceleration mattered more than the listed towing capacity. That's simply not true. While the Titan may have been faster because of its engine, towing capacity is not based on acceleration and engine power alone, otherwise my Lincoln Mark VIII would have the same towing capacity as a V8 F-150. Towing capacity takes into account the transmission strength, frame strength, brake fade resistance and a myriad of other things. To imply that because one truck out-accelerates another it must therefore be a better tow vehicle is simple-minded at best.

ZV
 

bolido2000

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2001
3,720
1
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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: CtK
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
The Titan didn't just win this test, it ran away with it. Such a result might seem like an improbable upset, but the numbers speak for themselves. It cleaned up at the test track, had the second lowest sticker price, offered the most desirable features and was every editor's number-one recommended pick. This wasn't the case of an upstart contender putting together a few key assets to slip into first place. No, this was the story of a truck that was built to beat the domestics at their own game and succeeded.

owned

w00t NISSAN 4EVA

or untill the next Tundra comes out

lol
when the next Tundra comes out I'm gonna say "wait until the next Titan comes out"

Pretty much. Every successive generation of trucks will end up having power than before. It happened in midsize cars (we went from having 120hp Camry's to 200+hp), it happened in economy cars (we went from 96-hp Corollas to 160hp Corollas) and now it will happen in trucks.

I'm waiting for TItan to come out wiht a diesel option, now that's a real truck. Imagine a 6L turbodiesel making roughly 560tq and 350hp.

mmm...torquey.

I think Nissan is going to start using Renault Diesels really soon.
Stupid question, is the Renault truck (18 wheeler kind of truck) division the same as the Renault car division? If so Nissan will have access to big diesel engines
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
10,484
12
81
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The thing about the Titan being the fastest while pulling a trailer bothered me a bit when they made the claim that the acceleration mattered more than the listed towing capacity. That's simply not true. While the Titan may have been faster because of its engine, towing capacity is not based on acceleration and engine power alone, otherwise my Lincoln Mark VIII would have the same towing capacity as a V8 F-150. Towing capacity takes into account the transmission strength, frame strength, brake fade resistance and a myriad of other things. To imply that because one truck out-accelerates another it must therefore be a better tow vehicle is simple-minded at best.

ZV
Well, it's not like the Titan has a low towing capacity anyway. It's listed at 9400 lbs, second-best in the class behind the F-150 at 9500 AFAIK.
I think Edmund's probably thought a "practical" test would provide a better idea of real-life performance than one might get just from looking at the specs.
 

BadNewsBears

Diamond Member
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The thing about the Titan being the fastest while pulling a trailer bothered me a bit when they made the claim that the acceleration mattered more than the listed towing capacity. That's simply not true. While the Titan may have been faster because of its engine, towing capacity is not based on acceleration and engine power alone, otherwise my Lincoln Mark VIII would have the same towing capacity as a V8 F-150. Towing capacity takes into account the transmission strength, frame strength, brake fade resistance and a myriad of other things. To imply that because one truck out-accelerates another it must therefore be a better tow vehicle is simple-minded at best.

ZV

100% But its still intersesting that its faster. Tow Reccs are based alot on veichle weight, and its empty momentum.
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: BigSmooth
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The thing about the Titan being the fastest while pulling a trailer bothered me a bit when they made the claim that the acceleration mattered more than the listed towing capacity. That's simply not true. While the Titan may have been faster because of its engine, towing capacity is not based on acceleration and engine power alone, otherwise my Lincoln Mark VIII would have the same towing capacity as a V8 F-150. Towing capacity takes into account the transmission strength, frame strength, brake fade resistance and a myriad of other things. To imply that because one truck out-accelerates another it must therefore be a better tow vehicle is simple-minded at best.

ZV
Well, it's not like the Titan has a low towing capacity anyway. It's listed at 9400 lbs, second-best in the class behind the F-150 at 9500 AFAIK.
I think Edmund's probably thought a "practical" test would provide a better idea of real-life performance than one might get just from looking at the specs.
True. And I agree that as long as you're not exceeding the towing capacity then the acceleration might be reasonably valid. I just don't like the implication that acceleration is the main factor.

The Nissan is a wonderful truck. It's just a crying shame how it's saddled with that horrible interior and exterior styling.

ZV
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
10,484
12
81
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: BigSmooth
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The thing about the Titan being the fastest while pulling a trailer bothered me a bit when they made the claim that the acceleration mattered more than the listed towing capacity. That's simply not true. While the Titan may have been faster because of its engine, towing capacity is not based on acceleration and engine power alone, otherwise my Lincoln Mark VIII would have the same towing capacity as a V8 F-150. Towing capacity takes into account the transmission strength, frame strength, brake fade resistance and a myriad of other things. To imply that because one truck out-accelerates another it must therefore be a better tow vehicle is simple-minded at best.

ZV
Well, it's not like the Titan has a low towing capacity anyway. It's listed at 9400 lbs, second-best in the class behind the F-150 at 9500 AFAIK.
I think Edmund's probably thought a "practical" test would provide a better idea of real-life performance than one might get just from looking at the specs.
True. And I agree that as long as you're not exceeding the towing capacity then the acceleration might be reasonably valid. I just don't like the implication that acceleration is the main factor.

The Nissan is a wonderful truck. It's just a crying shame how it's saddled with that horrible interior and exterior styling.

ZV
For a completely new vehicle, I'd say they did a damn good job. It's not perfect, but it's more than competitive in a tough market which to me is very impressive. The interior is not fantastic, but it's serviceable, and the styling is of course subjective. The engine, handling, transmission, feature content, utility, etc. all seem to be drawing great reviews.

In any case, if the Titan continue to get highly positive press, sales should increase despite the barriers to entry in this segment. If owners are as happy with the trucks as the writers all seem to be, word of mouth should help a lot as well.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,580
982
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Originally posted by: Jigga
Originally posted by: neovan
i've been considering trading in my 350z for a titan. any thoughts?
How bout an engine swap with a Titan?? Then you'll have a 350z that actually has 350+ hp!!!

Yeah, make the Z heavier for an extra 63hp? :roll: Just put a turbo or blower on it and you will be up around 350hp easy with minimal weight added.

I'd take a Titan over a Dodge any day of the week. I still prefer the Tundra though. :D
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
24,514
44
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
and wth go with an auto tranny?
Because automatics tow FAR better than manuals. You'd have to be a complete idiot to get a manual transmission in a truck that was going to be towing.

I'm sure that someone will point out now that semi tractors have manual transmission. Yes. They also have gigantic clutches and the drivers never use the clutch except when the truck is dead stopped because it's incredibly heavy. Also, it's not pratical to build an 18 speed automatic transmission.

ZV