Full House vote on impeachment inquiry rules to be held Thursday

[VRAMdemon]

Prediction: Republicans will continue to obstruct. The challenge in impeaching Trump is that the Republicans are really good at playing the victim card, and they're good at obfuscation.

Kate Brannen, Just Security:

Ambassador Sondland testified that neither Fiona Hill, nor John Bolton nor anyone else on the NSC staff ever raised any misgivings about what was going on. https://www.npr.org/2019/10/17/77071...nt-to-congress
…
Vindman's testimony directly contradicts that.

He says he told Sondland in July that his statements about getting Ukraine to investigate the Bidens were inappropriate and Fiona Hill echoed the same concerns.

Vindman testimony contradicts Sondland in big ways, leaving Sondland open to accusations of perjury

 

[VRAMdemon]

So, it seems...Pelosi has the votes and Trump will be impeached at a time of her choosing. But, Trump can only be removed from office at a time of the Republicans choosing.

So, what's the best strategy for the Republican party?

1. Support Trump and hope for the best, which is - four more years of a vindicated Trump with a mandate to rule as he pleases.

2. Obstruct everything and blame the Dems but remove Trump from office by one vote.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hey if Hillary can murder 35 people and still walk free then why can't Republicans do the same?

By their logic there is a Slovenian double agent with direct access to the President in the White House.

 

[dank69]

By their logic there is a Slovenian double agent with direct access to the President in the White House.

Internal consistency ceased to be a concern decades ago. Conservative media knows how to play 65% of Americans like a fiddle.

 

[VRAMdemon]

State Media...er Fox News is already calling this guy a double agent or a traitor. There is no bottom.

The right wing talking point seems to be that Vindman was born in Ukraine and therefore his loyalty to the US is questionable. Multiple people have brought that up now on various news shows, so apparently this was the coordinated best response they could come up with.

 

[jameny5]

So Republicans will call this legal and Constitutional?

With lawsuits potentially delaying depositions, this should get rid of fake claims of "it's not an impeachment" and so testimony from that question legitimacy can be compelled.

Hallelujah! Hi five... I am going to shake the maracas. Do the Watusi Dance. Whatever that is.

 

[jameny5]

I could careless really what they do to him. They could drag him to the court in shackles kicking and screaming as long as he doesn't touch my IRA or raise.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

White House & Fox issued their orders.
Republicans will now say the leaker is a traitor or a spy
They started today with the Military advisor on the call, his family is from Ukraine so he can’t be trusted.

The appalling GOP attacks on a US military officer's patriotism are next-level

On Tuesday, Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, is expected tell House investigators that he had major concerns about the appropriateness of a July 25 phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. And that those...

www.cnn.com

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I have to say, the contempt the GOP has for their voters is astounding. Remember the last couple weeks of whining that they didn't have access and everything was in secret?

More proof that they are just full of shit. Not that any was needed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1188939302295818241

 

[Jhhnn]

I have to say, the contempt the GOP has for their voters is astounding. Remember the last couple weeks of whining that they didn't have access and everything was in secret?

More proof that they are just full of shit. Not that any was needed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1188939302295818241

It's a sham, alright, perpetrated by people like Meadows. They stormed a session of... the intelligence committee.

 

[UNCjigga]

The right wing talking point seems to be that Vindman was born in Ukraine and therefore his loyalty to the US is questionable. Multiple people have brought that up now on various news shows, so apparently this was the coordinated best response they could come up with.

Yeah, it’s not like we have any real patriots amongst the immigrant ranks in our armed forces.

Republicans 2019: You can lay your life on the line for your country, but if you’re born elsewhere, your loyalty is always suspect.

 

[HomerJS]

I have to say, the contempt the GOP has for their voters is astounding. Remember the last couple weeks of whining that they didn't have access and everything was in secret?

More proof that they are just full of shit. Not that any was needed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1188939302295818241

Wait, now they are bitching Dems are taking hearing public out of the so called "secret" Judiciary Committee??

Wow that takes chutzpah. The smell of desperation is really getting pungent.

BTW - Mark Meadows claimed to be such a friend of the late Elijah Cummings yet he practiced birtherism.

Racist hypocrite!!

 

[hal2kilo]

I could careless really what they do to him. They could drag him to the court in shackles kicking and screaming as long as he doesn't touch my IRA or raise.

Why are you here then?

 

[soundforbjt]

It's a sham, alright, perpetrated by people like Meadows. They stormed a session of... the intelligence committee.

Nothing says lynching like a couple dozen white guys storming the doors of a hearing.

 

[Jhhnn]

Nothing says lynching like a couple dozen white guys storming the doors of a hearing.

It's just the latest version of the Brooks Bros riot, except it didn't work as well.

 

[JEDIYoda]

The Republicans only complained about process because the facts were bad, not out of any actual concern for it.

The facts were bad?

 

[hal2kilo]

Yeah, it’s not like we have any real patriots amongst the immigrant ranks in our armed forces.

Republicans 2019: You can lay your life on the line for your country, but if you’re born elsewhere, your loyalty is always suspect.

You know the defense investigative services seem to go out of there way to hire ex-patriots like him for interviewers for clearances. Those people were hard core, compared to regular American born interviewers.

 

[K1052]

The facts were bad?

For the president.

 

[soulcougher73]

It's about time. Poop or get off the pot.

The shit storm is coming.

 

[soulcougher73]

Hey if Hillary can murder 35 people and still walk free then why can't Republicans do the same?

You might want to get some updated info bud. She has at least 47 confirmed kills...by her own hands even.

 

[interchange]

It's about time. Poop or get off the pot.

I'm not even sure what you mean by this. Who has been stalling?

 

[JEDIYoda]

It's about time. Poop or get off the pot.

The word -- constipated comes to mind.....

 

[Victorian Gray]

You might want to get some updated info bud. She has at least 47 confirmed kills...by her own hands even.

plus one cat.

 

[kage69]

Trump really pissed off a lot of enlisted with the betrayal of the Kurds. This going after Vindman thing feels like him throwing gasoline on a fire. Once again republicans find themselves slandering honorable enlisted who have passed the duty test, the same test they continue to flunk. Disgusting stuff.


Some SOF are wearing the banned YPG/YPJ badges openly as a FU to Trump. This pic is 9 days old, so long after the ban spurred by Turkish feels.

Yep, AirPods.

 

[kage69]

Hey if Hillary can murder 35 people and still walk free then why can't Republicans do the same?

Airtight.

I got nothing.