Fud: NV to cut all but six partners

[nRollo]

OK- I asked, it's BS yet again.

No validity, the rumor mongerers are wrong. LOL- I wish I could buy stock in NVIDIA related rumors, production seems to be at record levels.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: rjc

Originally posted by: AmberClad
I don't recall that...

The vast majority of us here aren't under NDA not to talk about things like this. The ones that are should know better than to talk about things they shouldn't be discussing. I think that mainly applies to AT staff members, employees of the video card companies, other people who have inside info and have signed NDAs, etc.

There are plenty of reasons why a thread in this particular subforum would get locked (duplicate threads, fanboy flamewars, things going off topic, etc).

It was in this thread, was talking about how much the 200 series cards cost to make:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...erthread=y&STARTPAGE=6

About half way down keysplayer said:
"Just the hardware bud. That is all that really matters for us when it comes to computers. Nobody should care about how a companies stock plummets or rises except investors. Not dudes and dudettes who are gamers and intrigued by hardware. Granted, there are some investors here and there on these forums, but let them worry themselves to death about a company's financial health.
Focus on the hardware, and the games we all enjoy playing.

The only money we should be concerned with, is bang per buck. And that is final, really."

I was going to reply to try a defend the idea of studying costs and how the business works but the thread got locked. Though looking at it again there were alot of insults flying about on the side which obscured the main discussion.

Wish the mods would state a reason when they lock threads, it is easy to get confused.

The NDA stuff, should not be a reason to ban discussion, its just a mechanism to exert control by suppliers over the coverage they get. A way to reward and punish journalists and the analysts that cover them.

In bold ^ Which is pretty much why I said what I said. I mean, how can anyone start insulting somebody over production costs? It's actually ludicrous. Think about it. It would have been fine discussing it, but to get heated over something that truly does not matter to gamers (give me one valid reason why productions costs matter over the final retail price one pays for said performance) at all. Investors, yes. Gamers, not a chance. Otherwise, they are lying to themselves.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: nRollo
OK- I asked, it's BS yet again.

No validity, the rumor mongerers are wrong. LOL- I wish I could buy stock in NVIDIA related rumors, production seems to be at record levels.

Maybe we should help INQFUD find something better to do with their time?
Puppy and kitten adoption stories are always tearjerkers. Maybe we can point them in that direction.

 

[ronnn]

Sort of a pr fud thread.

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose some big companies in the coming days. Hard times are a comin. If Nvidia can restructure and survive nicely - more power to them. :beer:

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: rjc

Originally posted by: AmberClad
I don't recall that...

The vast majority of us here aren't under NDA not to talk about things like this. The ones that are should know better than to talk about things they shouldn't be discussing. I think that mainly applies to AT staff members, employees of the video card companies, other people who have inside info and have signed NDAs, etc.

There are plenty of reasons why a thread in this particular subforum would get locked (duplicate threads, fanboy flamewars, things going off topic, etc).

It was in this thread, was talking about how much the 200 series cards cost to make:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...erthread=y&STARTPAGE=6

About half way down keysplayer said:
"Just the hardware bud. That is all that really matters for us when it comes to computers. Nobody should care about how a companies stock plummets or rises except investors. Not dudes and dudettes who are gamers and intrigued by hardware. Granted, there are some investors here and there on these forums, but let them worry themselves to death about a company's financial health.
Focus on the hardware, and the games we all enjoy playing.

The only money we should be concerned with, is bang per buck. And that is final, really."

I was going to reply to try a defend the idea of studying costs and how the business works but the thread got locked. Though looking at it again there were alot of insults flying about on the side which obscured the main discussion.

Wish the mods would state a reason when they lock threads, it is easy to get confused.

The NDA stuff, should not be a reason to ban discussion, its just a mechanism to exert control by suppliers over the coverage they get. A way to reward and punish journalists and the analysts that cover them.

If you ever have any questions about something, please feel free to PM or email us. That specific thread was locked because it took a turn for the stupid with insults and rambling, which was noted on the first post.

As for what you may talk about, Keys is not a video mod, so while he's always of great help his word is technically not law here (he's just a member, like anyone else). You guys are allowed to discuss anything related to the video business as long as it's done in a respectful and constructive way. If it doesn't meet that criteria, then we'll close it down.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: ronnn
Sort of a pr fud thread.

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose some big companies in the coming days. Hard times are a comin. If Nvidia can restructure and survive nicely - more power to them. :beer:

NVIDIA is not restructuring.

 

[rjc]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
In bold ^ Which is pretty much why I said what I said. I mean, how can anyone start insulting somebody over production costs? It's actually ludicrous. Think about it. It would have been fine discussing it, but to get heated over something that truly does not matter to gamers (give me one valid reason why productions costs matter over the final retail price one pays for said performance) at all. Investors, yes. Gamers, not a chance. Otherwise, they are lying to themselves.

Ok so it was cause of the insults that is cool. Not to derail this thread but maybe sometime if you want a discussion over relevance of business/industry stuff to the actual cards people get to buy i will be keen to participate .

Originally posted by: ViRGE
If you ever have any questions about something, please feel free to PM or email us. That specific thread was locked because it took a turn for the stupid with insults and rambling, which was noted on the first post.

Thanks for replying, i only looked at the last page, didnt think to go back and look at the first post. The last page and a half of the thread wasnt so good, dont know if its possible but maybe stop the people using insults in the thread posting further in the thread might work better than killing the thread itself. Otherwise threads can be hijacked too easily and the penalty is on the group rather than the hijacker.

As for what you may talk about, Keys is not a video mod, so while he's always of great help his word is technically not law here (he's just a member, like anyone else). You guys are allowed to discuss anything related to the video business as long as it's done in a respectful and constructive way. If it doesn't meet that criteria, then we'll close it down.

No problem, thanks for the clarification. Personally get very curious how stuff works, including the motivations and limitations behind the actions, rather than just the end resulting product.

 

[rjc]

If this german translation is correct BFG is denying the story:
http://translate.google.com/tr...n&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en
and also here:
http://www.guru3d.com/news/new...with-only-6-partners-/

On here found the current nvidia partners:
Asus*
BFG
Biostar
ECS
EVGA*
Gigabyte
MSI*
Palit*
Point of View
PNY
XFX*
Zogis
Ones with stars are the lucky ones(which one is pc partner/zotac???)
ie 6 of those would have to disappear which sounds a bit improbable. Its difficult to think why nvidia would do this. The only reason i can think of for nvidia to absolve a partnership is cause the partner is about to go bust. Maybe 1 or 2 but 6?

[Editted to add the second bfg denial from guru3d site]

 

[poohbear]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Staying:

EVGA
Zotac (why?)
ASUS
MSI
Palit
XFX

u guys are having a very americentric view of things. XFX, Evga, and BFG are only sold in N america, so the rest of the world has only 3 other companies to choose from? i think not. it sounds like complete BS to me.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: rjc
If this german translation is correct BFG is denying the story:
http://translate.google.com/tr...n&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en
and also here:
http://www.guru3d.com/news/new...with-only-6-partners-/

I was the one who told John of this Fud rumor, and he told Graham.

The rumors of BFG's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Originally posted by: poohbear
u guys are having a very americentric view of things. XFX, Evga, and BFG are only sold in N america

BFG is also sold in Europe. In fact BFG has a few Europe-only SKUs.

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: poohbear
u guys are having a very americentric view of things. XFX, Evga, and BFG are only sold in N america

BFG is also sold in Europe. In fact BFG has a few Europe-only SKUs.

AFAIK this also applies to XFX and EVGA as well. Although the comment about americentric rings true when their discount/rebate/upgrade schemes don't apply in many countries other than the US.

 

[Blazer7]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: poohbear
u guys are having a very americentric view of things. XFX, Evga, and BFG are only sold in N america

BFG is also sold in Europe. In fact BFG has a few Europe-only SKUs.

You're dead right on this. BFG is sold in Europe and the same goes for eVGA and XFX.

*** edit ***

Ooooppss....

betasub posted while I was typing.

 

[nRollo]

NVIDIA themselves deny this:

http://www.guru3d.com/news/nvi...utting-board-partners/

This ongoing FUD campaign about NVIDIA has been tiresome for a long time now, maybe we should all pray Charlie gets a girlfriend soon and ends his dry spell.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Now Fudzilla is retracting their statements. They go so far as to claim, they actually did some footwork (or phonecalls) and tracked down information that denied their rumors. Quite obviously all they did was read other sites and take quotes from them word for word and then claim it as information they obtained themselves.

Is it any suprise that Fudzilla is so incompetent and claims the work of others as their own?

 

[nemesismk2]

Damn damn damn I was looking forward to getting a BFG Radeon HD 4870 X2 OC with 2MB GDDR5. Can't Nvidia reconsider and let BFG go?

 

[SunnyD]

So if they're getting rid of PNY - who's doing Quadro cards? PNY picked up the exclusive rights to sell Quadro's when Elsa was sold off. Methinks this is inaccurate to say the least.

 

[Keysplayr]

I wonder if Demerjian just goes insane if he cant come up with an Nvidia slam at least once per week. I picture him on anti-psychotic pharma. But that's just me. I mention Demerjian because I wonder if this rumor didn't come from him. Sounds like something that would.

 

[Peelback79]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Damn damn damn I was looking forward to getting a BFG Radeon HD 4870 X2 OC with 2MB GDDR5. Can't Nvidia reconsider and let BFG go?

And maybe let EVGA go too so I can have an EVGA flavored X2. That'd be sweet. But it would be a horrible move for Nvidia. Sigh, too bad companies can't swing both ways.

Thread hijack: Still no news on next gen release dates? Anyone?

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Peelback79
Sigh, too bad companies can't swing both ways.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

- ASUS
- MSI
- Gigabyte
- Powercolor/TUL/Zogis
- Gainward/Palit

Those are some of the companies that sell both flavors.

 

[Wreckage]

Apparently Pudzilla has already gotten (and posted) denials from BFG and NVIDIA.

Another made up story to feed the trolls.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Apparently Pudzilla has already gotten (and posted) denials from BFG and NVIDIA.

Another made up story to feed the trolls.

Right, as I said, posted the retraction as if they were the ones who gotthe information first hand, yet they directly quote articles that were published before theirs....

I think sometimes their source is speculation on message boards

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Apparently Pudzilla has already gotten (and posted) denials from BFG and NVIDIA.

Another made up story to feed the trolls.

Right, as I said, posted the retraction as if they were the ones who gotthe information first hand, yet they directly quote articles that were published before theirs....

I think sometimes their source is speculation on message boards

Ha, the only board I think they get their info from is a ouija board.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: Peelback79
Sigh, too bad companies can't swing both ways.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.
...
Those are some of the companies that sell both flavors.

I think he meant more of a top tier company that offers lifetime warranty and 24/7 phone support.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Ha, the only board I think they get their info from is a ouija board.

Teh winnar!

"Making news... out of nothing at all... (making news)"
with apologies to Air Supply

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Peelback79
Still no news on next gen release dates? Anyone?

June 2009!

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: nRollo

Originally posted by: ronnn
Sort of a pr fud thread.

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose some big companies in the coming days. Hard times are a comin. If Nvidia can restructure and survive nicely - more power to them. :beer:

NVIDIA is not restructuring.

They will be, along with the rest of the world or join the prehistoric.