From a joke to absolute fear

[Dari]

I remember back in late May of 2001, I was parked at the corner of Duane Street and West Broadway, not too far from the World Trade Center. It was a nice afternoon and I was sitting in my car admiring the environment around me. I noticed a guerilla sticker on the "Stop" sign at the southwest corner of the cross-section. It was a silhouette of a simian-looking George W. Bush with a caption that read "One-term President." Of course, that was back in the days when the media used to call Bush "Dubya" in NYC. It was also before September 11. Now, whenever I'm in that area, or the Village above Canal Street, you can't help but see a "Stop Bush," "We the People say no to the Bush Agenda" sign, among others too many (and too profane) to mention. I can also see it in the threads in this forum. Bush's opponent are taking him far more seriously now and are increadibly fearful of him. Today, they listen to his every word with trepidation and disgust. They're continually on the defensive.

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

 

[Infohawk]

Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Dari
I remember back in late May of 2001, I was parked at the corner of Duane Street and West Broadway, not too far from the World Trade Center. It was a nice afternoon and I was sitting in my car admiring the environment around me. I noticed a guerilla sticker on the "Stop" sign at the southwest corner of the cross-section. It was a silhouette of a simian-looking George W. Bush with a caption that read "One-term President." Of course, that was back in the days when the media used to call Bush "Dubya" in NYC. It was also before September 11. Now, whenever I'm in that area, or the Village above Canal Street, you can't help but see a "Stop Bush," "We the People say no to the Bush Agenda" sign, among others too many (and too profane) to mention. I can also see it in the threads in this forum. Bush's opponent are taking him far more seriously now and are increadibly fearful of him. Today, they listen to his every word with trepidation and disgust. They're continually on the defensive.

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

The Misunderestimated Man.

Seymour Hersh was dead-on in his interview on The Daily Show right before the election. He said was very afraid of Bush being re-elected.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Dari
I remember back in late May of 2001, I was parked at the corner of Duane Street and West Broadway, not too far from the World Trade Center. It was a nice afternoon and I was sitting in my car admiring the environment around me. I noticed a guerilla sticker on the "Stop" sign at the southwest corner of the cross-section. It was a silhouette of a simian-looking George W. Bush with a caption that read "One-term President." Of course, that was back in the days when the media used to call Bush "Dubya" in NYC. It was also before September 11. Now, whenever I'm in that area, or the Village above Canal Street, you can't help but see a "Stop Bush," "We the People say no to the Bush Agenda" sign, among others too many (and too profane) to mention. I can also see it in the threads in this forum. Bush's opponent are taking him far more seriously now and are increadibly fearful of him. Today, they listen to his every word with trepidation and disgust. They're continually on the defensive.

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

Yeah, they have proven themselves to be in the "Not very bright" class time and again.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

Of course you can be both. He's a joke because he's an idiot. And that idiocy is dangerous given his position. Again, there's no inconsistency. There's always been serious and mocking signs and bumpers stickers of the chimp. Nothing has changed.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

Of course you can be both. He's a joke because he's an idiot. And that idiocy is dangerous given his position. Again, there's no inconsistency. There's always been serious and mocking signs and bumpers stickers of the chimp. Nothing has changed.

Bush isn't an idiot. As I finished reading Plan of Attack have read other articles, you can see how much in charge he really is. The trouble with Bush is that he is a horrible public speaker (perhaps due to his medication and the years of damage done to his brain via drugs and alcohol). He's in charge but he's led around by his arrogance and his ideology. Anything that runs counter to his vision is automatically dismissed and criticized.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

Of course you can be both. He's a joke because he's an idiot. And that idiocy is dangerous given his position. Again, there's no inconsistency. There's always been serious and mocking signs and bumpers stickers of the chimp. Nothing has changed.

Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: Dari

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

Misunderestimating the stupidity of the American electorate.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Dari
Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

So now you're saying he's not an idiot? I don't really want to debate that. The point is people think he's an idiot. And they ALSO think he's dangerous. No inconsistency and your post is without merit. Cheers.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

Of course you can be both. He's a joke because he's an idiot. And that idiocy is dangerous given his position. Again, there's no inconsistency. There's always been serious and mocking signs and bumpers stickers of the chimp. Nothing has changed.

Bush isn't an idiot. As I finished reading Plan of Attack have read other articles, you can see how much in charge he really is. The trouble with Bush is that he is a horrible public speaker (perhaps due to his medication and the years of damage done to his brain via drugs and alcohol). He's in charge but he's led around by his arrogance and his ideology. Anything that runs counter to his vision is automatically dismissed and criticized.

Weren't you one of the posters that used to say that others did his thinking for him and that he is just a puppet for his dad and his cronies? If drugs and alcohol would do the brain damage that you imply, how would the Democratic party find an electable candidate that could still sign his/her name?

 

[conjur]

:roll:

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari
Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

So now you're saying he's not an idiot? I don't really want to debate that. The point is people think he's an idiot. And they ALSO think he's dangerous. No inconsistency and your post is without merit. Cheers.

I wouldn't speak for everyone if I were you. I don't think he's an idiot. People that work with him don't think he's an idiot. You need to wise-up yourself.

 

[Czar]

What changed is that now Bush has become confident in himself, before he was unsure what he could do.
The difference to the people is that before people saw that and they thought he was a joke, he had the weird ideals and not exactly a way to put them into action. Now he can and people know he can put his own ideas into action.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Czar
What changed is that now Bush has become confident in himself, before he was unsure what he could do.
The difference to the people is that before people saw that and they thought he was a joke, he had the weird ideals and not exactly a way to put them into action. Now he can and people know he can put his own ideas into action.

You've just seen him as President and are assuming that. During his two-terms as governor of Texas, Bush was very effective.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
What changed is that now Bush has become confident in himself, before he was unsure what he could do.
The difference to the people is that before people saw that and they thought he was a joke, he had the weird ideals and not exactly a way to put them into action. Now he can and people know he can put his own ideas into action.

You've just seen him as President and are assuming that. During his two-terms as governor of Texas, Bush was very effective.

maybe so, but most people have only seen him as the president of the US

expecialy if you take a look at his public performance, when he is doing speeches, there is a world of difference

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
What changed is that now Bush has become confident in himself, before he was unsure what he could do.
The difference to the people is that before people saw that and they thought he was a joke, he had the weird ideals and not exactly a way to put them into action. Now he can and people know he can put his own ideas into action.

You've just seen him as President and are assuming that. During his two-terms as governor of Texas, Bush was very effective.

maybe so, but most people have only seen him as the president of the US

expecialy if you take a look at his public performance, when he is doing speeches, there is a world of difference

That's perception and it can be very deceptive. Maybe that's why people assumed that he was an idiot and didn't bother to look deeper. Either way, his opponents didn't do their homework, now they have no one to blame for their stupidity.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: Dari
I remember back in late May of 2001, I was parked at the corner of Duane Street and West Broadway, not too far from the World Trade Center. It was a nice afternoon and I was sitting in my car admiring the environment around me. I noticed a guerilla sticker on the "Stop" sign at the southwest corner of the cross-section. It was a silhouette of a simian-looking George W. Bush with a caption that read "One-term President." Of course, that was back in the days when the media used to call Bush "Dubya" in NYC. It was also before September 11. Now, whenever I'm in that area, or the Village above Canal Street, you can't help but see a "Stop Bush," "We the People say no to the Bush Agenda" sign, among others too many (and too profane) to mention. I can also see it in the threads in this forum. Bush's opponent are taking him far more seriously now and are increadibly fearful of him. Today, they listen to his every word with trepidation and disgust. They're continually on the defensive.

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

Wow Dari(s), you sure divined a lot of information from stickers on stop signs.

Doctorate material?

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Are you trying to find some inconsistency?

George W. Bush has always been a joke and a threat at the same time.

No one can be both simultaneously. If you can't take him seriously, then it's game over for you. You lose. Two wars, major tax cuts, and major revampings of the military, Medicaid, and Social Security sound like a joke to you?

Of course you can be both. He's a joke because he's an idiot. And that idiocy is dangerous given his position. Again, there's no inconsistency. There's always been serious and mocking signs and bumpers stickers of the chimp. Nothing has changed.

Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

Execute WHAT as well as he has? Anything outside the realm of pure politics has been one miserable failure after another; 9/11, Iraq, WMD's, Over Time Pay, Prescription Drugs, Budget Deficit, etc... If ANYONE in his cabinet deserves recognition it's his political strategist Rove for playing America's prejudice?s against us to get Bush re-elected.

 

[PatboyX]

who told you fools werent dangerous?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Dari
Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

Execute WHAT as well as he has? Anything outside the realm of pure politics has been one miserable failure after another; 9/11, Iraq, WMD's, Over Time Pay, Prescription Drugs, Budget Deficit, etc... If ANYONE in his cabinet deserves recognition it's his political strategist Rove for playing America's prejudice?s against us to get Bush re-elected.

Well, think about those things. Prescription Drugs (arguably a weak plan by the Admin but it made it through anyway).

Iraq (we all know the story behind the exaggerated and inflated intelligence but we went to war anyway)

Tax cuts (we all know it would have been better to save Social Security but they were put in place anyway, despite a weakening economy)

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Dari
Idiots don't execute as well as he has. Anyway, you can continue to be in denial about the President, but that will continue to be your own undoing. You simply don't respect him, or don't want to. Either way, you lose.

Execute WHAT as well as he has? Anything outside the realm of pure politics has been one miserable failure after another; 9/11, Iraq, WMD's, Over Time Pay, Prescription Drugs, Budget Deficit, etc... If ANYONE in his cabinet deserves recognition it's his political strategist Rove for playing America's prejudice?s against us to get Bush re-elected.

Well, think about those things. Prescription Drugs (arguably a weak plan by the Admin but it made it through anyway).

Iraq (we all know the story behind the exaggerated and inflated intelligence but we went to war anyway)

Tax cuts (we all know it would have been better to save Social Security but they were put in place anyway, despite a weakening economy)

Conjur, don't forget the war intelligence was CHERRY-PICKED!

 

[jjzelinski]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the topics of my criticisms weren't executed, I'm simply refuting the fact that they were executed well. And by "well" I mean in the sense of sound policy, not how they were forced through the minimal bureaucratic blockades of our government.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Dari
I remember back in late May of 2001, I was parked at the corner of Duane Street and West Broadway, not too far from the World Trade Center. It was a nice afternoon and I was sitting in my car admiring the environment around me. I noticed a guerilla sticker on the "Stop" sign at the southwest corner of the cross-section. It was a silhouette of a simian-looking George W. Bush with a caption that read "One-term President." Of course, that was back in the days when the media used to call Bush "Dubya" in NYC. It was also before September 11. Now, whenever I'm in that area, or the Village above Canal Street, you can't help but see a "Stop Bush," "We the People say no to the Bush Agenda" sign, among others too many (and too profane) to mention. I can also see it in the threads in this forum. Bush's opponent are taking him far more seriously now and are increadibly fearful of him. Today, they listen to his every word with trepidation and disgust. They're continually on the defensive.

What was their original mistake? Lack of respect for their opponent.

Dubya must wake up every morning and thank his god for 9.11. Otherwise, he'd have been a pathetic footnote of American politics.

 

[Steeplerot]

Only in the morining? Heck he seems to bring it up every chance he can.