Friend failed to pull over promptly, speeding 45 in a 25 zone

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aidanjm

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how did he get the bloody nose? Did one of these police men punch him? that kind of police brutalization is disgusting and outrageous
 

yokomo

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did you take any pics of the damage the cop did to your frinds face.. you should have kicked him in the nose when you left and went strait to the ER..... (well that is what they would do on TV any way)....
 

Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.
 

PHiuR

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i was driving around my college and i failed the stop at a stop sign (and signal). as i was on this one road leading to the main road (off of college property) the cop cars turns on his lights. I had a red light but I could turn right legally so I did...the cop car follows me onto this road...he turns off his lights almost right away as he is off the college property. I saw the lights on top of his car flash but my friend said he had them on for more than a few seconds...he then proceeded to follow me for a good 2 miles and then doesnt stop me....phew was I lucky :)
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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30 seconds? Are you exaggerating? A cop pulled me over a while back for having expired inspection. It was on this road with no shoulders and the cop just followed me for a good minute until I reached an area with shoulders. The cop actually appreciated me not stopping in the middle of the road and let me go with just a verbal warning :)
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.
 

Vic

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Your friend should obviously (1) see a doctor about the bloody nose, and (2) consult an attorney. Both ASAP. The law does not require that you immediately pull over, but as soon as is safe and expedient. For example, you should never pull over on a road with no shoulder (and thus blocking traffic and/or exposing the officer to danger), but as soon as you come to a safe place. A 30 second delay is neither uncommon nor unreasonable. He could possibly get off by saying that he didn't see the lights, or that he was looking for the first safe place to pull over. If caused by the police, the bloody nose should result in an immediate complaint against the officers involved, plus legal action. Do not delay, call that fsckin lawyer today.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
30 seconds? Are you exaggerating? A cop pulled me over a while back for having expired inspection. It was on this road with no shoulders and the cop just followed me for a good minute until I reached an area with shoulders. The cop actually appreciated me not stopping in the middle of the road and let me go with just a verbal warning :)
And you did the right thing. As a precaution against a jack-booted badged thug, I always recommend signalling your intention to pull over as soon as possible while you look for a safe place.
 

Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

No where in there did it say the police gave the kid a bloody nose. Until I read otherwise, as far as im concerned the cops didnt do it.
 

Whisper

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The law also says that you must acknowledge your intent to pull over, which this person obviously didn't. Also, we still don't know what caused the bloody nose; could've just been high levels of stress.

If a vehicle/driver gives no visible signal that they intend to pull over within 30 seconds of the officer's roof lights being turned on, then a certain amount of force is justified.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.
 

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

STFU N00B!
 

DPK

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Last year my girlfriend got pulled over for not having her headlights on. That's a simple mistake that most of us have done before but in this case the cop was a real d*ckhead about. My girlfriend drove down the road a bit and pulled into a Taco Bell parking lot because it was safer then doing so on the busier road. She eventually had FOUR cop cars there in the parking lot with her and the officer kept his tough guy attitude the entire time, even after it was obvious that she wasn't a threat. The jackass still gave her a ticket to go with the attitude and we got the judge to throw it out.

I suggest you tell the judge that you were looking for a reasonable place to pull over.
 

Originally posted by: DPK
Last year my girlfriend got pulled over for not having her headlights on. That's a simple mistake that most of us have done before but in this case the cop was a real d*ckhead about. My girlfriend drove down the road a bit and pulled into a Taco Bell parking lot because it was safer then doing so on the busier road. She eventually had FOUR cop cars there in the parking lot with her and the officer kept his tough guy attitude the entire time, even after it was obvious that she wasn't a threat. The jackass still gave her a ticket to go with the attitude and we got the judge to throw it out.

I suggest you tell the judge that you were looking for a reasonable place to pull over.

So you suggest lying in a court of law?
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

Would the OP please clarify just how the broken nose occurred?
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
30 seconds? Are you exaggerating? A cop pulled me over a while back for having expired inspection. It was on this road with no shoulders and the cop just followed me for a good minute until I reached an area with shoulders. The cop actually appreciated me not stopping in the middle of the road and let me go with just a verbal warning :)
And you did the right thing. As a precaution against a jack-booted badged thug, I always recommend signalling your intention to pull over as soon as possible while you look for a safe place.

Yep, I've only been pulled over once but when he put his lights on I put my turn signal on showing that I planed to pull over as soon as I found a safe spot.
 

DPK

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Not if it's the truth. Granted if there was space to pull over and he didn;'t because he freaked out, then no, but if he was afraid to pull over because they were on a busy road and didn't know what to do, then tell that to the judge.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

STFU N00B!

Go do your internship or your girlfriend or something...
 

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

STFU N00B!

Go do your internship or your girlfriend or something...

I'll do you!
 

MartyMcFly3

Lifer
Jan 18, 2003
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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

STFU N00B!

Go do your internship or your girlfriend or something...

I'll do you!

I thought you were banned, rbloedow! :Q
 

Sluggo

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Jun 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

Would the OP please clarify just how the broken nose occurred?

Welcome to the ATOT rumor mill. In the OP the nose was bloody, now the nose is broken :confused:

 

KK

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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Nomada
It's not always illegal to not stop immediately to a cop siren. Check the law. A law firm that specialize in these cases is in order. I'm sure they'll drop the second charge, maybe both because of excessive force(to an extent).

Its not excessive force you dolt. Its for the officers safety...they dont know why he didnt pull over right away. He could have been stashing drugs or guns. The level of force used wasnt even close to excessive. Its almost standard practice.

a broken/ bleeding nose? if that is standard practice, then there needs to be a high level enquiry into police practice and heads need to roll.

OP said nothing about police breaking the drivers nose/hitting the driver at all.

Some people's natural reactions to tense or upsetting circumstances are nosebleeds.

Would the OP please clarify just how the broken nose occurred?

Welcome to the ATOT rumor mill. In the OP the nose was bloody, now the nose is broken :confused:

I thought the dudes face was kicked in, and he was knocked out. :confused:
 

Chrono

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Jan 2, 2001
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WOW!? your friend is a dumbass. maybe he should just stop driving PERIOD. How can you freeze up? Also, for the guy who was trying to get away from the cops, you're dumb too.