Free cellphones!

[MovingTarget]

FBISD basically bends over any time a parent has a complaint, from the way she talks.

FBISD? I'm curious as to what that is. We probably call it something else down here...

Parents have rights, but they aren't always right. Many would take up for their kid against a teacher or administration, no matter what they may have done to disrupt the learning environment. Apples and trees, my friend.

 

[halik]

Cell phones I can understand - having one is kind of crucial for finding a job etc. Cable on the other hand is a different story.

 

[MovingTarget]

Cell phones I can understand - having one is kind of crucial for finding a job etc. Cable on the other hand is a different story.

I was wondering this myself. Outside of prison, where do the poor get subsidized cable?

 

[spidey07]

Cell phones I can understand - having one is kind of crucial for finding a job etc. Cable on the other hand is a different story.

What? The employment office, welfare office, public assistance office, etc don't have phones and programs to help you find a job? Public transportation to get you there? Folks to help you? *not you personally, just to get the point across*

Hell, we just had Ford offer some 1500 jobs available and amazingly plenty of people showed up at the employment office/center to apply with this thing we call an "application". Yep, they actually filled out the application with such modern advancements like "a pencil".

Now who do you think will get those jobs? The ones that said "I don't have a cell phone so I can't even apply", or the ones that said "I want to work, I'm here, I want to work."

 

[Engineer]

Now who do you think will get those jobs? The ones that said "I don't have a cell phone so I can't even apply", or the ones that said "I want to work, I'm here, I want to work."

The ones who have cell phones so Ford can call them back? :biggrin:

(J/K).

 

[MovingTarget]

What? The employment office, welfare office, public assistance office, etc don't have phones and programs to help you find a job? Public transportation to get you there? Folks to help you? *not you personally, just to get the point across*

Hell, we just had Ford offer some 1500 jobs available and amazingly plenty of people showed up at the employment office/center to apply with this thing we call an "application". Yep, they actually filled out the application with such modern advancements like "a pencil".

Now who do you think will get those jobs? The ones that said "I don't have a cell phone so I can't even apply", or the ones that said "I want to work, I'm here, I want to work."

You do realize that many employers, especially larger ones, are going to electronic-only applications, right? You know, ones where you would need some electronic way to be contacted: like a cell phone. Just showing up with a pencil won't get you very far in those situations. Gone are the days where people would put up a legitimate help wanted sign and you could simply show up and say "I am able and willing to work". There are millions that "just want to work" in the very real sense. Relying on public transportation (which quite frankly is a joke in my region of the nation) and gov't sponsored employment centers is downright laughable when it comes to actually landing a job.

 

[Throckmorton]

We should probably be subsidizing internet access too. The rightwingers will say "go to a library"... right, the library you closed down because you despise socialism. It takes a lot of TIME to search for jobs too. It's not like you get to a computer, take an hour, you're done and you have a job.


Considering mail service is 100% universal, I don't see what's so strange about subsidizing cell phones, much less internet access.

 

[spidey07]

You do realize that many employers, especially larger ones, are going to electronic-only applications, right? You know, ones where you would need some electronic way to be contacted: like a cell phone. Just showing up with a pencil won't get you very far in those situations. Gone are the days where people would put up a legitimate help wanted sign and you could simply show up and say "I am able and willing to work". There are millions that "just want to work" in the very real sense. Relying on public transportation (which quite frankly is a joke in my region of the nation) and gov't sponsored employment centers is downright laughable when it comes to actually landing a job.

You do realize I'm talking ford right?

The times you speak of where an email is enough to get a job never existed. Only in the minds of the entitled does such a world exist.

 

[Engineer]

You do realize I'm talking ford right?

The times you speak of where an email is enough to get a job never existed. Only in the minds of the entitled does such a world exist.

My current job was started, negotiated and finished through e-mail. Never filled an application out at all! :biggrin:

(Edit: There was an interview but the entire process started and ended on the e-mail side. My boss loves to e-mail using the iPhone).

 

[spidey07]

My current job was started, negotiated and finished through e-mail. Never filled an application out at all! :biggrin:

And you wonder why you don't make what you're worth.

Hmm....

 

[Carmen813]

And you wonder why you don't make what you're worth.

Hmm....

Spidey, we won't respect you less if you admit you were wrong once in a while. The ad hominem attacks are growing kinda stale.

 

[alkemyst]

Well we just made the first step into subsidizing computers for everyone. Our unemployment offices went from phone-in service to 100% internet-based.

I am sure we will have an uprising how it's too inconvenient to look for a job from the library for those without computers at home (or at least those lying they don't have one).

 

[MovingTarget]

And you wonder why you don't make what you're worth.

Hmm....

Email is not the sole means of communication, but the writing is on the wall. It will be used more and more in the hiring process. You say it is because of "entitlement mentality" that many of us realize it. But the fact is, if you call or go in to any place of employment to apply, many will refuse to even speak to you without an electronic application. It isn't what you know, or how hard you are willing to work, but who you know. That is entitlement mentality. You must be one of those entitled few to believe that getting employment is so easy for the rest of us who would do anything just to put in an honest days work for an honest day's pay.

 

[Balt]

It is a right to have peace of mind.

Bull. I'm employed and I sure as shit still don't have peace of mind. How many people truly do?

 

[xj0hnx]

Bull. I'm employed and I sure as shit still don't have peace of mind. How many people truly do?

Yea, I kind of chuckled when I read that too, what a complete crock of shit.

 

[Jhhnn]

Uhh-Waaaaahhhh! They get something for free & I don't!

So, uhh, quit your job or get fired, go broke. In the post ownership society economy, you'll play hell finding another job & you'll be eligible to get free shit, too!

Try it! You'll like it!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

We should probably be subsidizing internet access too. The rightwingers will say "go to a library"... right, the library you closed down because you despise socialism. It takes a lot of TIME to search for jobs too. It's not like you get to a computer, take an hour, you're done and you have a job.


Considering mail service is 100% universal, I don't see what's so strange about subsidizing cell phones, much less internet access.

lol, trying to compare cell phones to the communist book store? I knew some of you were crazy, but damn...

I can't believe anyone is defending this blatant waste...

 

[JSt0rm]

That's the attempt of the liberal mind in action to pull on your emotions.

wernt you just told not 5 minutes before you posted this that it was a bipartisan effort to give free phones to poor black people?

 

[CitizenKain]

You do realize I'm talking ford right?

The times you speak of where an email is enough to get a job never existed. Only in the minds of the entitled does such a world exist.

I know the concept of someone being employed for their intelligence is a foreign concept to you, but try to keep up. See, people in jobs where you don't wear your name on shirt, and even some that do, can apply e-l-e-c-t-r-o-n-i-c-a-l-l-y, using a computer. Then, if they are a long ways away, you can talk to them through a computer! With pictures! I guess if we need a ditch dug we'll give you a call though.

 

[spidey07]

I know the concept of someone being employed for their intelligence is a foreign concept to you, but try to keep up. See, people in jobs where you don't wear your name on shirt, and even some that do, can apply e-l-e-c-t-r-o-n-i-c-a-l-l-y, using a computer. Then, if they are a long ways away, you can talk to them through a computer! With pictures! I guess if we need a ditch dug we'll give you a call though.

And yet all deals are made face to face. You know nothing.

 

[nonlnear]

aye, true. It's probably cheaper to give them this than a landline. However for the same price, I'd rather have a landline with "unlimited" minutes than a cell with 250.

Consider that many poor people don't have the same security in their living arrangements as most people are used to having. Getting kicked to the curb by a slumlord is hard enough, but if it means you lost contact with everybody at the same time, it can make a slip into homelessness that much more likely. With a cell phone, telecommunications aren't dependent on being at a particular address.

Imagine being semi-homeless. If you are applying for jobs other than walk-up labor, you need a reliable phone number to get a job, period.

If you are going to provide subsidized telecommunications to the poor, I think a cell phone really is the best platform for it.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Free housing, free food, free cable, free electricity, free healthcare, and now - FREE CELL PHONES!

You may have seen the adds for assurance wireless and I was suspicious thinking it was some kind of scam. But it's not. You too can get a free cell phone, paid for by other peoples money of course.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_749344.html

About five, six years late with news about this program aren't you?

 

[CitizenKain]

And yet all deals are made face to face. You know nothing.

Maybe for you peasant class people, people with real jobs can handle things in other ways.

 

[Darwin333]

Bipartisanship doesn't make it right. It is a good idea in its own right. Even people in the poorest third world countries have these types of phones - they really are that cheap to own/operate on a nonprofit basis. Here though, we are heavily gouged because 'thats what the market will bear'. This is a cost effective way to help those with medical problems have piece of mind should an emergency occur.

go to your local walmart and you can purchase a prepaid phone for under $15. Minutes, as well as plans including unlimited, can be had for very cheap as well. Hell you can even get blackberry's and android phones albeit at much higher prices for the phone.

 

[spidey07]

Maybe for you peasant class people, people with real jobs can handle things in other ways.

Lulz, I've never inked a contract of significant size without it being face to face.

But the fact remains, if you're poor you dont' deserve a free cell phone. You deserve to get your ass a jobby job.