Free Cars!

[nobodyknows]

You may not qualify.


Requirements are

• Poor
• Democrat
• Ghetto
• ?Black? - Not politically correct, but given the way many liberal programs and/or the State of Mass operates...:whiste:
• Mass State Resident

Uh, you forgot JOBLESS smart azz. :whiste:

 

[Jhhnn]

That statement is misleading. She's making the assumption they wouldn't be on welfare anymore and hence the "savings".

Here's a link to the application, NOWHERE on there does it mention welfare benefits will be cut. It does however say what it will pay for and that is essentially everything to own and operate the car except for gas (hell, it may even have free gas). Things paid for - insurance, taxes, title, registration, inspection ALL REPAIRS and a AAA membership! It truly is a totally free car and all expenses.

http://www.bostonherald.com/projects/welfare_cars.bg

Just because the form doesn't say that benefits will be cut doesn't mean they won't be.

It also reads like the program is small, only $430K, highly conditional, and voluntary. And an 80% success rate is pretty good- if a year of that gets a family off welfare, it's money well spent.

Despite all the raving bootstrap rhetoric from the right, sometimes people get far enough down that it's tough for them to get back up again. We're all better off when they do, when programs designed to wean people off welfare actually work.

 

[mizzou]

Actually, lets just do free cars rather then free houses.

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually, lets just do free cars rather then free houses.

Might as well make it free houses, too, if abandoned properties can achieve occupancy before vandals tear them apart-

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/50548282.html

It's a scam that servicers run on investors & communities- they collect late fees & penalties on the property out of the good mortgages in the MBS pool, leave the places to rot.

Say "Corn!", Julio...

 

[spidey07]

Just because the form doesn't say that benefits will be cut doesn't mean they won't be.

It also reads like the program is small, only $430K, highly conditional, and voluntary. And an 80% success rate is pretty good- if a year of that gets a family off welfare, it's money well spent.

Despite all the raving bootstrap rhetoric from the right, sometimes people get far enough down that it's tough for them to get back up again. We're all better off when they do, when programs designed to wean people off welfare actually work.

This is the mind of a liberal in action. Vote taxpayers!! Vote. This mentality is what youre up against.

 

[JSt0rm]

They should of given the money to fat bankers at 0% interest instead.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is the mind of a liberal in action. Vote taxpayers!! Vote. This mentality is what youre up against.

Yeh- it involves *actual thought* rather than raving about some news article you received in a frenzied right wing chain email...

It also involves looking past greed & envy towards people who have a helluva lot less than I do. Admit it, Spidey- you're jealous of anybody who ever gets anything "for free", no matter how badly they might need it to feed their kids or become a more productive member of society.

 

[spidey07]

I'm shrugged. I'm going to go get my free shit.

 

[JSt0rm]

Admit it, Spidey- you're jealous of anybody who ever gets anything "for free", no matter how badly they might need it to feed their kids or become a more productive member of society.

i'm sure spidey got a lot for free.

 

[werepossum]

Just because the form doesn't say that benefits will be cut doesn't mean they won't be.

It also reads like the program is small, only $430K, highly conditional, and voluntary. And an 80% success rate is pretty good- if a year of that gets a family off welfare, it's money well spent.

Despite all the raving bootstrap rhetoric from the right, sometimes people get far enough down that it's tough for them to get back up again. We're all better off when they do, when programs designed to wean people off welfare actually work.

That's what changed my mind. If they have an 80% success rate at getting people off welfare I don't care if they hand out free gorilla masks and strap-on dildos.

 

[CitizenKain]

i'm sure spidey got a lot for free.

I'm sure he does, he's obviously a lazy person who is living off family.

 

[Dulanic]

I was near outrage when I first started reading this, I live in MA. Now I am only pissed but not outraged. At least the state isn't paying for these cars. However, they shouldn't get their insurance etc paid for by the state. They already get welfare, EARN the rest!

 

[spidey07]

I'm sure he does, he's obviously a lazy person who is living off family.

You know why I don't respond to the insults to accusations from the libtards? Because I know they're not true and just their defense mechanism to discredit and attack. Water off a ducks back you dirty, dirty liberal.

 

[kage69]

:hmm:

I was thinking taxis and shuttles when I mentioned "private." Nice to see they do care about people's driving records though...

 

[kage69]

You know why I don't respond to the insults to accusations from the libtards? Because I know they're not true and just their defense mechanism to discredit and attack. Water off a ducks back you dirty, dirty liberal.

So why don't you respond to moderates and conservatives who show you to be full of shit?

Insults and accusations are things you yourself employ quite often (even in that post!), it's facts and logic that roll off you with little effect.

Keep tryin, but nobody here buys you putting on airs of decorum and civility. You kissed those goodbye a long time ago.

 

[spidey07]

So why don't you respond to moderates and conservatives who show you to be full of shit?

Insults and accusations are things you yourself employ quite often (even in that post!), it's facts and logic that roll off you with little effect.

Keep tryin, but nobody here buys you putting on airs of decorum and civility. You kissed those goodbye a long time ago.

And yet the fact remains. Tax payer money is being used to provide an all expense paid free car. That is wrong.

A charity doing it is great, but using money taken by rule of law is not.

 

[kage69]

holy double post how did that happen?

 

[kage69]

And yet the fact remains. Tax payer money is being used to provide an all expense paid free car. That is wrong.

A charity doing it is great, but using money taken by rule of law is not.

I've already said I'm not comfortable with it, but I take some solace (even as a non-MA resident) in knowing these cars are donated, the state is covering necessary fees to use the vehicle, and also that it's restricted to those on welfare with children.

The part about children is an important aspect of this to me. I know what it's like to come from a low income single parent household, and being a parent now helps underscore my disdain for conservatives who are up in arms over the wellbeing of a fetus, yet couldn't give two shits about the fetus once it exits a vagina.

If the bean counters in Mass are OK with this and see it as effective, who am I to complain? If tax payer money collected by rule of law being given to those who shouldn't get it is your concern, then start at the top and start complaining about companies maintaining subsidies while paying little in taxes and making record profits. I assure you it's more of an impact than low income families getting donated transportation and a few things that accompany car use.

 

[her209]

I was thinking taxis and shuttles when I mentioned "private." Nice to see they do care about people's driving records though...

Taxis and shuttles are expensive. Even at a low estimate of $10 a ride, that's $20 a day. That's $200 every 2 weeks. Assume they live close to a grocery store so no transportation is needed to buy food. Someone earning minimum wage, $7.25, working full time, will bring home $580 gross every 2 weeks. Subtract FICA taxes ($24.36@4.2% SS and $8.41@1.45% Medicare) leaves them with $547.23. Assume no federal and state income taxes are withheld. That leaves them with $347.23. Sales taxes is harder to calculate because its variable on how much of their income is spent towards taxable items and the sales tax rate.

That gives them a "monthly" income of $347.23 x 2 = $694.46. I put "monthly" in quotes because under a bi-weekly pay period, you end up with an extra two checks every year. Or put another way, you get an extra paycheck in a month twice each year. With $694.46, they have to pay for rent, utilities, food, health and clothing some of which is subsidized by government.

 

[umbrella39]

You know why I don't respond to the insults to accusations from the libtards? Because I know they're not true and just their defense mechanism to discredit and attack. Water off a ducks back you dirty, dirty liberal.

You aren't fooling anyone. The fact you think you are and seem to even have yourself convinced of your bullshit only further enforces everyone's opinion of your here. Enjoy all YOUR free shit while complaining about others getting theirs.

 

[WHAMPOM]

On welfare and need a set of wheels? Well have no fear, the government is here to provide you one for FREE and pay all the insurance.

But, but, but...they need a car if they are to get a job! Then buy one like everybody else or carpool and pay for gas or public transportation.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/r...r_poor_fuel_road_rage/srvc=home&position=also

So full of envy and jealousy you're spitting green again? Over cars donated by charities and not out of your taxes? Will free air and sidewalk access be your next tirade?

 

[spidey07]

So full of envy and jealousy you're spitting green again? Over cars donated by charities and not out of your taxes? Will free air and sidewalk access be your next tirade?

ALL EXPENSES/REPAIRS ARE PAID WITH TAX PAYER MONEY INCLUDING AAA MEMBERSHIP.

Can people really not read?

 

[WHAMPOM]

You know why I don't respond to the insults to accusations from the libtards? Because I know they're not true and just their defense mechanism to discredit and attack. Water off a ducks back you dirty, dirty liberal.

A fact of Human nature is to criticize others for what you practise yourself. Insult enough?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

ALL EXPENSES/REPAIRS ARE PAID WITH TAX PAYER MONEY INCLUDING AAA MEMBERSHIP.

Can people really not read?

It takes the money for that out of the payments they would have received anyway. This while getting 80% of the people enrolled off the welfare rolls.

If it makes you feel better look at is as less beer and drug money since I'm sure you feel that's the only reason people end up on welfare.

 

[spidey07]

It takes the money for that out of the payments they would have received anyway. This while getting 80% of the people enrolled off the welfare rolls.

If it makes you feel better look at is as less beer and drug money since I'm sure you feel that's the only reason people end up on welfare.

Participating in the program DOES NOT reduce welfare payments to those taking advantage of it. Look at the application.