HAHAHAH...
You guys both suck... let me know where u 2 play. You will have A2 and be scared of AA on that flop....HAHAHAH.
nuts = best hand.
A2 = AA = best hand.
22 = second best
The argument was whats the nuts on the flop... not the board. LOL
HAHAHAH...
You guys both suck... let me know where u 2 play. You will have A2 and be scared of AA on that flop....HAHAHAH.
nuts = best hand.
A2 = AA = best hand.
22 = second best
The argument was whats the nuts on the flop... not the board. LOL
Only reason it seems unusual is because live poker goes through so many less hands per hour. Online you could 8-table and get in over 600 hands per hour. More hands = more statistical abberations.
In 4 hours of play last night at a casino I saw 4 of a kind 5 times at a table. Another table had quads beaten by quads and they won the "bad beat" pot of 56k 40% to the winner, 30% to the loser and 30% split by the table.
Let's say you have AA and flopped AA2, then yes, you would have the nuts.
If you had A2 and flopped AA2, you would also have the nuts.
Did that clear it up?
If you had A2 and flopped AA2, you would also have the nuts.
Did that clear it up?
Nuts = best hand ... rest is simple.
AA is the best hand.
A2 is ALSO the best hand. Since a guy with A2 cannot be beaten by anything else as noone else can hold AA (which would indeed mean 5 aces).
Good lord I can't believe you guys are arguing over what the freaking nuts was. It's really not hard.
You held 22, there were two potential hands that beat you. AA and A2, leaving you with the 3rd nuts.
Those saying his hand was weak on the flop also need to STFU. There were precisely 3 hands that beat you on the flop (AA one way, A2 two ways), the pot was unraised preflop (leaving 1/3 of those hands very unlikely), 22 on that board is an outstanding hand. The only real danger is someone with an ace (other than A2) pairing their kicker or the board pairing (higher than two's).
Give me that hand all day long & I'll make tons of money off of people with AK, AQ, etc. The times you lose? That's poker.
Viper GTS
You held 22, there were two potential hands that beat you. AA and A2, leaving you with the 3rd nuts.
Those saying his hand was weak on the flop also need to STFU. There were precisely 3 hands that beat you on the flop (AA one way, A2 two ways), the pot was unraised preflop (leaving 1/3 of those hands very unlikely), 22 on that board is an outstanding hand. The only real danger is someone with an ace (other than A2) pairing their kicker or the board pairing (higher than two's).
Give me that hand all day long & I'll make tons of money off of people with AK, AQ, etc. The times you lose? That's poker.
Viper GTS
It's really not complicated:
1st nuts = AA
2nd nuts = A2
3rd nuts = 22
4th nuts = AK
5th nuts = AQ
...
Of course on the turn your hand starts looking pretty questionable, any significant action & you'll have to ditch it.
On the turn the nuts are:
1st = The case ace, any kicker
2nd = KK
3rd = QQ
...
And on the river:
1st = Any K
2nd = Any Q
...
Etc.
Viper GTS
Yeah, yeah catch my mistakes before I edit them.
Bottom line here is your pot equity on the flop is ENORMOUS. Even against a full table who all limped in you have over 70%. Of course that drops to essentially nothing on the turn, but what can you do...
Viper GTS
How the heck can you say A2 is the 2nd nuts? It's the NUTS. Nothing can beat it with a flop of AA2.
you guys are all fvcking NUTS. arguing over fvcking semantics.
fact is there are two hands that could have beat you.
whether you call them equal hands or 1st and 2nd is completely fvcking IRRELEVANT.
SHUT THE FVCK UP.
fact is there are two hands that could have beat you.
whether you call them equal hands or 1st and 2nd is completely fvcking IRRELEVANT.
SHUT THE FVCK UP.
translation: he sucks at poker
He played weak, if someone had an ace and hit the flop, he shoulda bet hard, no way they were folding, good payout.
If people didnt have an ace, then it was pointless giving them cheap cards, because they wouldnt pay out anyway with those scary AA on the flop.
1st mistake: Coming in weak with 22
2nd mistake: Not pushing on the flop
3rd mistake: Not pushing a little on the turn to see if anyone had an ace (they were playing weak, they probably would have folded the pot to him)
4th mistake: Posting an amateur play on AT and complaining as if he got robbed.
If I have AA, it is the nuts
If I have A2, it is the nuts
but think about it
Quad Aces on the flop vs full house on the flop
Which are more likely to get busted on the way out? A guy could have KK and the turn and river could come KK... at that point you would win with AA or lose with A2
On the flop, AA or A2 is the nuts, but A2 is the weaker hand overall, so we call it the 2nd nuts...
Discussing nuts is annoying in poker because it usually changes as the hand progresses
Calling 22 nuts at all, is nuts, because it cant beat everything, so its not nuts.... but if you ARE going to call it nuts, call it third nuts, because there are 2 other hands that can beat you... NOT simultaneously, but there ARE 2 hands that could beat you, so you have the third nuts...
Duhhhh....really? I mean there are ties occasionally, but damn, you sometimes will win and sometimes lose? mindblowing :roll:
You are gonna have a tough time convicing me that raising with 22 out of the big blind against multiple limpers is a long-term profitable move.
Just about every flop misses your hand and you are out of position for the entire hand as well. I understand the want to isolate, but with a hand like 22 - 66 you want as many people in the hand so you have a higher probability of getting paid off if you do hit your hand. If the flop misses you, you can easily dump it.
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