Freak Wave Slams Cruise Ship

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Drakkon

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your mama is sooo fat that when she went in the ocean she caused a wave sooo big...
 

sharkeeper

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the difference is Cruise ships arnt really designed to do what a Warship is.. we dont dodge storms.. we go right through them..

QM2 was specifically designed for crossings and is built to take rougher seas than most cruise ships. The choice not to go through storms is more of a personal comfort issue than anything else.

In any case if you compare what a 24 meter high wave weighs and the ship weight it's not to the advantage of the ship. It's like putting a 3 pound Yorkie on one side of a see-saw and the 350 pound tuba player that eats five cheeseburgers for lunch on the other side. Doggiepult.
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: ScrewFace
I'm watching it on CNN right now. Apparently one of the waves was 73 feet high and took out hundreds of rooms and the restaurant. The company (what else is new) only offered a 25% reduction for their next cruise. The passengers on CNN will never take another cruise ship again. They are seeking legal advice as they want a full refund...and they should get it!:|

Because the cruise line can control the weather...
 

sharkeeper

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While certainly a traumatic experience for the 2,000 passengers on board, post-cruise remarks by passengers to reporters that they were glad to get off the "Titanic" is an absurd comparison.

According to NCL, at no time was the ship in distress ­ no distress calls were made ­ and the safety and integrity of the ship was not compromised by the rogue wave.

It's a testament to modern ship-building techniques, coupled with rigid maritime safety protocols, that result in ships like Norwegian Dawn being able to withstand such a horrible natural impact with virtually no structural damage and no serious injuries to passengers or crew.

In fact, after repairs in Charleston and a U.S. Coast Guard inspection, Norwegian Dawn was fit to sail and continued its voyage to New York, arriving a day late on April 18. The ship has resumed its schedule, although no word yet from NCL as to how long additional repairs may take to some of the flooded cabins and public areas.

For passengers to remotely compare their experience ­ as terrifying as it was ­ to that of passengers on the ill-fated Titanic, and for media outlets including The Associated Press to print/broadcast such remarks verbatim, without adding factual content, is wrong.

It's not fair to NCL, the industry, or the millions of cruise travelers who embark on voyages daily, secure in the knowledge that today's major cruise lines operate at the highest levels of safety standards and protocols.

True, there are risks in all forms of travel and on rare occasions accidents ­ or in this case a freak wave ­ happen. But, please, stop the unchecked comparisons
.

For the record, 93 years ago this month the R.M.S. Titanic, a White Star Line steamship struck an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank on her maiden voyage.

Over 1,500 lives were lost.
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: ScrewFace
I'm watching it on CNN right now. Apparently one of the waves was 73 feet high and took out hundreds of rooms and the restaurant. The company (what else is new) only offered a 25% reduction for their next cruise. The passengers on CNN will never take another cruise ship again. They are seeking legal advice as they want a full refund...and they should get it!:|

The company didn't make the wave.

They should haul that bitch known as "mother nature" into court and take her for every dime she has!

QFT.

Lawsuit happy, self-centered Americans are pissing me off. Stop it. The company didn't make you take the cruise, and they certainly didn't make the wave. Sue God if you want some justice, not the company. This could be like suing a train company if a monster truck ran over your train.
 

sharkeeper

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This could be like suing a train company if a monster truck ran over your train.

That would be one hell of a truck.

The owner would probably get sued for pollution and consumption alone.
 

alkemyst

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on the open sea there are rouge waves of 40' often. Hell right on shore there are 9-11 waves....Hawaii has monsters on shore compared to that.
 

sharkeeper

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ICCL Statement: Norwegian Dawn

ARLINGTON, Va.

According to the U.S. Coast Guard, cruising is one of the safest modes
of transportation. Over the past two decades, an estimated 90 million
passengers safely enjoyed a cruise vacation. During this period not
one passenger death due to a marine incident has been reported on any
International Council of Cruise Lines (ICCL) member cruise vessel
operating from a U.S. port.


Cruise ships are built to the highest structural stability standards,
as set by the International Maritime Organization (IMO). The Norwegian
Dawn, affected by a freak [sic] wave on April 16, 2005, is part of the fleet
represented by the ICCL and is an excellent example of the high level
of structural integrity found on today?s cruise ships. All ICCL member
ships comply with IMO standards governing the operation of cruise
vessels worldwide, including the design, construction and operation of
ocean-going vessels. These regulations are codified in the Safety of
Life at Sea (SOLAS) Convention and are closely monitored by both flag
and port states, including the U.S. Coast Guard.

The cruise industry cooperates with the U.S. Coast Guard and other
maritime nations to assure the safety of passengers. To ensure
compliance with SOLAS, the Coast Guard examines each cruise vessel
that visits a U.S. port during its itinerary when it is under
construction, when it first enters service at a U.S. port, and
quarterly thereafter. The examinations emphasize structural integrity,
safety and proper life-saving equipment.

The highest priority of the ICCL is to ensure a safe and secure cruise
vacation. The ICCL will continue to work closely with the
international maritime community to ensure the safety of its
passengers, crew and ships.


For more information, please visit http://www.iccl.org/policies/safety.cfm.
 

cavemanmoron

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LOL.
Can't happen to me.

I am a certified landlubber.

I won't go if I can't stop the vehicle on the side of the road.

{No planes,no trains,no boats}
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
LOL.
Can't happen to me.

I am a certified landlubber.

I won't go if I can't stop the vehicle on the side of the road.

{No planes,no trains,no boats}

Being in your profile you are from New York...a recent tsunami should make possiblites clearer ;)
 

ultimatebob

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On the bright point, I bet that tickets for the Norwegian Dawn are going to be dirt cheap for the next few months! That's a good thing, too, because that ship is REALLY nice. They just launched it a little over a year ago, and it's fully loaded with anything that you would want. I think that I'd get a cabin on one of the upper floors, though :)
 

Doggiedog

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I went on a cruise last summer when all those nasty hurricanes hit Florida. Those seas were really rough.

pic

It got nicer later. The cruise liners had to avoid the storms so they all ended up in the same places. In Costa Maya there must have been 8 or 9 large cruise ships docked simultaneously.
 

rh71

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I was supposed to book my mom's vaca on the Norwegian Dawn for June.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: sharkeeper
While certainly a traumatic experience for the 2,000 passengers on board, post-cruise remarks by passengers to reporters that they were glad to get off the "Titanic" is an absurd comparison.

According to NCL, at no time was the ship in distress ­ no distress calls were made ­ and the safety and integrity of the ship was not compromised by the rogue wave.

It's a testament to modern ship-building techniques, coupled with rigid maritime safety protocols, that result in ships like Norwegian Dawn being able to withstand such a horrible natural impact with virtually no structural damage and no serious injuries to passengers or crew.

In fact, after repairs in Charleston and a U.S. Coast Guard inspection, Norwegian Dawn was fit to sail and continued its voyage to New York, arriving a day late on April 18. The ship has resumed its schedule, although no word yet from NCL as to how long additional repairs may take to some of the flooded cabins and public areas.

For passengers to remotely compare their experience ­ as terrifying as it was ­ to that of passengers on the ill-fated Titanic, and for media outlets including The Associated Press to print/broadcast such remarks verbatim, without adding factual content, is wrong.

It's not fair to NCL, the industry, or the millions of cruise travelers who embark on voyages daily, secure in the knowledge that today's major cruise lines operate at the highest levels of safety standards and protocols.

True, there are risks in all forms of travel and on rare occasions accidents ­ or in this case a freak wave ­ happen. But, please, stop the unchecked comparisons
.

For the record, 93 years ago this month the R.M.S. Titanic, a White Star Line steamship struck an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank on her maiden voyage.

Over 1,500 lives were lost.
hahah first they say that and then they end it with the titanic

 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: CVSiN

they arnt that big...
put a cruise ship next to USS Ronald Reagan or any other Nimitz Class carrier and you will see cruise ship looks like a tug boat =P


I wouldn't exactly describe them as a tug boat when comparing today's megaships...
CVN-76 USS R Reagan - 1092 ft 98K tons
Carnival Conquest - 952ft 110K tons
Cunards Queen Mary II - 1132 ft 150K tons
 

jEct2

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i'd want to take on a 7 story wave inside a cruise ship for some free drinks and reduced prices on the cruise and future cruise
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: labgeek
Originally posted by: CVSiN

they arnt that big...
put a cruise ship next to USS Ronald Reagan or any other Nimitz Class carrier and you will see cruise ship looks like a tug boat =P


I wouldn't exactly describe them as a tug boat when comparing today's megaships...
CVN-76 USS R Reagan - 1092 ft 98K tons
Carnival Conquest - 952ft 110K tons
Cunards Queen Mary II - 1132 ft 150K tons

My Carnival ship docked along side the Conquest and boy was that ship huge. It must have been 50% bigger than the Carnival Inspiration which I was on. I have some pics of the ship somewhere at home. Will try to post them when I get back.
 

Cristatus

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i was on the "Voyager of the Seas" and that ship is friggin' massive!

also, we went through a storm, and the ship was only rocking a little bit, but it was at night, so i didn't feel like going out on the deck, otherwise i would have taken some pictures.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: ScrewFace
I'm watching it on CNN right now. Apparently one of the waves was 73 feet high and took out hundreds of rooms and the restaurant. The company (what else is new) only offered a 25% reduction for their next cruise. The passengers on CNN will never take another cruise ship again. They are seeking legal advice as they want a full refund...and they should get it!:|

they dont deserve anything more than what they are getting. the cruiseline didnt create the wave...why should they be held responsible for mother nature?
 

Mayfriday0529

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Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: ScrewFace
I'm watching it on CNN right now. Apparently one of the waves was 73 feet high and took out hundreds of rooms and the restaurant. The company (what else is new) only offered a 25% reduction for their next cruise. The passengers on CNN will never take another cruise ship again. They are seeking legal advice as they want a full refund...and they should get it!:|

they dont deserve anything more than what they are getting. the cruiseline didnt create the wave...why should they be held responsible for mother nature?

The passengers were apparently POed that the ship decided to go through the storm rather than around it in order to make port on time.