Fox news republicans wouldn't know a logical argument if it hit them in the face.

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SparkyJJO

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It would be interesting if the right ever brought logic to a debate that isnt another taylor-made conservative wrapper of bull-puckey so you guys can keep goose-stepping without thinking.

I'm sorry, I prefer not to talk to communists :p
 

Craig234

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Are you JOKING?!?!!? Every negative response to any Obama policy is met with "that's because you're racist"

Really? In the last thousands of responses I recall to negative comments on Obama policy I don't recall a single liberal saying that - only the right-wingers making it up.
 

ericlp

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The logic is you only spend what you have. The left wants to keep spending on "Stimulus Packages / Welfare / Excessive handouts & bailouts, Giving money to foreign countries... regardless of being > 14 Trillion in debt.

Then... there is the right... that just want's to go to war regardless of being > 15 Trillion in Debt!

I think the Right bailed out wall street and big banks just as much as the left has. So....... anything else you wanna ad to your fantasy?
 

Fear No Evil

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Because he probably didn't even know that such aid existed. It's not like the POTUS micro manages the budget, or that he's omniscient.

Why didn't Dubya ask? Probably the same reason.

It's just grandstanding in a gotcha game, played out to satisfy the outrage addiction of the Faux viewers & their fellow travelers mentioned in the OP...

There are lots of twists & turns in the whole foreign aid thing. Sometimes it's an indirect subsidy to American companies- Uncle Sam gives money to country A to buy stuff from company Z... and now company Z has a customer dependent on them for parts & service, putting a lot more money back into this country than went out... hypothetical, of course.

That's a logical argument. Raving about one of our biggest trading partners being our greatest threat really isn't...

I'll interpret that as he's just too stupid then. I guarantee you he and his staff know exactly how much money is going to who, and it is probably routinely brought up with the countries involved. You don't think Hillary chats with Israel and reminds them of the amount they get?

Stop making excuses for Obama. I'm not even saying that giving the money to them is necessarily wrong, I don't have all the information on it. I'm saying claiming he doesn't know is pure idiocy.
 

Jhhnn

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I'll interpret that as he's just too stupid then. I guarantee you he and his staff know exactly how much money is going to who, and it is probably routinely brought up with the countries involved. You don't think Hillary chats with Israel and reminds them of the amount they get?

Stop making excuses for Obama. I'm not even saying that giving the money to them is necessarily wrong, I don't have all the information on it. I'm saying claiming he doesn't know is pure idiocy.

Once again, you confirm what the OP offers in a self caricature that only Faux News Repubs could possibly fail to recognize.

Do rave on. Some right wing talking head will undoubtedly jump up on the grandstand to make a mountain out of another mole hill, blame Obama in the process, feed your outrage addiction.

Live it. Love it. Crave it with the passionate heat of a thousand suns.
 

SparkyJJO

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Really? In the last thousands of responses I recall to negative comments on Obama policy I don't recall a single liberal saying that - only the right-wingers making it up.

I personally was called racist during the 2008 elections simply because I didn't vote for him.
 

SparkyJJO

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Wow... a single anecdote makes the general case, huh?

Did I claim that? No. :rolleyes:

He said he doesn't recall a single one. So I was giving an example of one. That's all.

Stop being so hasty to find fault and bash.
 

Craig234

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Did I claim that? No. :rolleyes:

He said he doesn't recall a single one. So I was giving an example of one. That's all.

Stop being so hasty to find fault and bash.

The point was your allegation that 'every criticism of Obama is met with a claim of racism'.

My large set of data contradicts that. The tens of thousands of posts in this forum contradict that. Your anecdote does not prove your claim.

And it's not even one anecdote for your point, it wasn't about a 'criticism of Obama policy'.

My saying I don't recall a single one isn't addressed by one anecdote even if valid. If I had seen one, or 1%, or 10%, that's a long way from your claim. And I haven't.
 

SparkyJJO

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The point was your allegation that 'every criticism of Obama is met with a claim of racism'.

No, I never said that. You're either mixing up people (confusing me with Lithium, perhaps?), or purposely trying to put words in my mouth. NEVER have I claimed that every criticism of Obama is met with a claim of racism.

Saying it happened to me a COUPLE TIMES does not equal me saying it always happens to everybody.
 
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Jhhnn

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No, I never said that. You're either mixing up people (confusing me with Lithium, perhaps?), or purposely trying to put words in my mouth. NEVER have I claimed that every criticism of Obama is met with a claim of racism.

Saying it happened to me a COUPLE TIMES does not equal me saying it always happens to everybody.

I think he did confuse you with Lithium.

OTOH, when you lie down with the dogs, expect to get some fleas.
 

pcgeek11

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Then... there is the right... that just want's to go to war regardless of being > 15 Trillion in Debt!

I think the Right bailed out wall street and big banks just as much as the left has. So....... anything else you wanna ad to your fantasy?

Two words Libya, Uganda. I never said the right didn't own their share of the blame. I just pointed out the left wants to continue at all cost....
 
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Jhhnn

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Two words Libya, Uganda. I never said the right didn't own their share of the blame. I just pointed out the left wants to continue at all cost....

This delusion on the Right, that Obama is some sort of Leftist, is just that- delusion. Yeh, he's not the right wing fringe whack they want, but he's no leftist. Hell, he's not even much of a Liberal.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, the Patriot Act, tax cuts for the wealthy, bailout of Wall St- just he way his predecessor left things. He's bent over backwards on too many occasions to mention in attempt to find common ground with people who'll do anything to oust him, who damaged the full faith and credit of the govt & sustained an economic downturn in pursuit of that.

Deal with it.