Fox news republicans wouldn't know a logical argument if it hit them in the face.

Paul98

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant
 

Zivic

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant
so watch another station.... that's the beauty of america.
 

halik

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

So we shouldn't build a fence to solve the immigration issue? I would argue that both left and right extremes are equally immune to logic.
 

Jhhnn

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

Don't be sorry- you're right, sad to say. This is how it happens, and the effects are cumulative-

http://web.archive.org/web/20010726030451/http://www.indymedia.org/print.php3?article_id=3159
 

PeshakJang

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

I'm confused, you start off by mentioning fox news, but then you seem to describe our left-leaning friends in astute detail, then you end and mention fox again.

:confused::confused::confused:
 

ComradeBeck

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I'm confused, you start off by mentioning fox news, but then you seem to describe our left-leaning friends in astute detail, then you end and mention fox again.

:confused::confused::confused:

Kinda interesting how your defense is one of a fundamentalist religious person questioned about reality, -they project instead of being able to process conflicting information. The right has been literally co-opted and programmed into pathological nutcases on a victim trip.
 
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MagickMan

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

Same goes for MSNBC. They're both annoying to watch. One's trying to bury Obama and the other is trying to suck his c*ck.
 

Siddhartha

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So we shouldn't build a fence to solve the immigration issue? I would argue that both left and right extremes are equally immune to logic.

Please provide examples of the left extremes being immune to logic. The reason I ask is a friend of mine recently said something similar to this but could not give an example of it.
 

pcgeek11

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Please provide examples of the left extremes being immune to logic. The reason I ask is a friend of mine recently said something similar to this but could not give an example of it.

The logic is you only spend what you have. The left wants to keep spending on "Stimulus Packages / Welfare / Excessive handouts & bailouts, Giving money to foreign countries... regardless of being > 14 Trillion in debt.
 

Kadarin

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As any Republican something like "other than lowering taxes for the extremely wealthy, what is your plan for fixing unemployment and the various things that are wrong with the economy", and your answer is almost certain to be on the order of "well, Obama hasn't fixed things in the years he's been in office..."

I'm convinced that there simply is no plan other than to keep on fleecing the middle class.
 

Ausm

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

If you want to see more distortion and out right lies please check out the URL in my Sig. ;)
 

Ausm

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As any Republican something like "other than lowering taxes for the extremely wealthy, what is your plan for fixing unemployment and the various things that are wrong with the economy", and your answer is almost certain to be on the order of "well, Obama hasn't fixed things in the years he's been in office..."

I'm convinced that there simply is no plan other than to keep on fleecing the middle class.

Of course there is no plan, this is evident if you checkout what the Republican in the HOR are working on Social Engineering o_Oo_O
 

dank69

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The logic is you only spend what you have. The left wants to keep spending on "Stimulus Packages / Welfare / Excessive handouts & bailouts, Giving money to foreign countries... regardless of being > 14 Trillion in debt.
And of course you think republicans never spend more than they have, right? Or perhaps they just do it less than liberals? Right?
 

Jhhnn

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The logic is you only spend what you have. The left wants to keep spending on "Stimulus Packages / Welfare / Excessive handouts & bailouts, Giving money to foreign countries... regardless of being > 14 Trillion in debt.

Funny how none of the usual Righties gave a fig about that when RR & Dubya were running things, but it's now the great crusade on the Right...

Heck, the general consensus from that quarter was that cutting taxes and simultaneously engaging in wars of adventure was a wonderful idea.
 

MagickMan

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These people live in their own little world where reality has no place. It's straw man argument after straw man instead of arguing using the reality of the situation. Never have I seen so many lies being doubled down on when called on it. It's the same old shit every day, any one who tries to question their thoughts is just scoffed, laughed at, or a straw man is brought up.

Every year it gets worse and worse, it seems like I used to see rational arguments for what was being said. There are still plenty of rational republicans that can defend what they believe in a logical way so that it makes sense. But these are not the new fox news republicans.

Sorry for the rant

FOX news Republicans and MSNBC Democrats are two sides of the same coin. Both are bobbleheads who can't make a decision without being told by their political leaders what to think. They're sheeple, and the political shepherds just stir them up and herd them wherever they're needed.
 

irishScott

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You know it's funny. Lefties attack Fox and Righties attack MSNBC and CNN, but no one defends any of the above. :D
 

ComradeBeck

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You know it's funny. Lefties attack Fox and Righties attack MSNBC and CNN, but no one defends any of the above. :D

I do not see a point in defending MSNBC, they have like 2 or 3 mainstream Democrats in the evening, besides that it is a wanna-be cheesy Foxnews knockoff with a bunch of talking point fed morons falling over one another to repeat daily Limbaugh/drudge tabloid politics.

It's really no comparison, the whole media is towing the establishment corporate line, not one party or lib/conservative.


Sure, this cultish conservatism media echo chamber trend lends itself better to big business' Machiavellian tendencies of crony capitalism. ;)

(up front at least -don't trust Dems to not be swinging from the corporate cajones also behind the scenes when the system is so gamed)
 
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MagickMan

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Usually I'll defend CNN. They are, for the most part, the most unbiased of the major outlets. However, sometimes they do have their moments...
 

irishScott

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I do not see a point in defending MSNBC, they have like 2 or 3 mainstream Democrats in the evening, besides that it is a wanna-be cheesy Foxnews knockoff with a bunch of talking point fed morons falling over one another to repeat daily Limbaugh/drudge tabloid politics.

It's really no comparison, the whole media is towing the establishment corporate line, not one party or lib/conservative although conservatism lends itself better to big business. (up front at least) ;)

Oh you're talking about their TV stations. Pretty sure I haven't gone to the TV for news in years.
 

pcgeek11

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And of course you think republicans never spend more than they have, right? Or perhaps they just do it less than liberals? Right?

That wasn't part of my post nor was it intended to be.

Siddhartha asked for this: Please provide examples of the left extremes being immune to logic.

So I gave him an example... Both parties spend too much. We need to stop.