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Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

Amused, I'm just wondering if you know of any studies that have been done to compare bias in Fox News vs. CNN or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure at least one exists...
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

I think it all depends on what people want to see at that time, really. People go on and on about CNN's left slant...but-post 9/11, or at the beginning of the Iraqi War, or when they found Saddam, or when they toppled his statue....I dunno, they've definitely showed a lot of "stand behind the President, support the troops" yada yada. Whatever's popular is what they'll broadcast.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

Amused, I'm just wondering if you know of any studies that have been done to compare bias in Fox News vs. CNN or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure at least one exists...

I've seen plenty. The problem is, all are slanted to come to the preconceived conclusions of the author.
 

Jeff7

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It could have been worse too. They could have done away entirely with the sections with Colbert.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

Amused, I'm just wondering if you know of any studies that have been done to compare bias in Fox News vs. CNN or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure at least one exists...

I've seen plenty. The problem is, all are slanted to come to the preconceived conclusions of the author.

Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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News is now a revenue driven entertainment business. With more people voting for the American idol than the winner of the Presidential election should we (Americans) be surprised at current states of "news"?
 

mugs

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Really, what difference does it make if they took out all of the coaching? They showed that Colbert was prompting him, they mentioned that it was on Comedy Central... I don't think they were trying to mislead, they were probably just trying to keep the clip short. The only thing they really did wrong was come to the absurd conclusion that what the congressman said has any bearing on anything at all. But since they're just preaching to the choir and no reasonable person would care about what he said (and he'll be re-elected regardless)... who cares?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

take away oreilly and hannity and foxnews is barely to the right of MSM
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.

What's unfortunate is that people can't think for themselves without the news media pointing them in one direction or another.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

Amused, I'm just wondering if you know of any studies that have been done to compare bias in Fox News vs. CNN or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure at least one exists...

I've seen plenty. The problem is, all are slanted to come to the preconceived conclusions of the author.

Maybe a study needs to be done on the bias of the authors of studies on bias in news media... ;)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.

What's unfortunate is that people can't think for themselves without the news media pointing them in one direction or another.
that's a well thought out point. not.

how else are people supposed to draw conclusions other than from the info the media gives us? we can't be on site to where the news is happening all around us can we?

 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.

What's unfortunate is that people can't think for themselves without the news media pointing them in one direction or another.
that's a well thought out point. not.

how else are people supposed to draw conclusions other than from the info the media gives us? we can't be on site to where the news is happening all around us can we?


i think what he means is that news should be objective, not absurdly subjective as is usualyl the case
 

thegimp03

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Have you been sleeping under a rock? All news networks are biased one way another. Liberals call Fox "Faux" and conservatives call CNN the "Clinton News Network".
 

eits

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Originally posted by: thegimp03
Have you been sleeping under a rock? All news networks are biased one way another. Liberals call Fox "Faux" and conservatives call CNN the "Clinton News Network".

yeah, but the thing is that the conservatives are wrong.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.

What's unfortunate is that people can't think for themselves without the news media pointing them in one direction or another.
that's a well thought out point. not.

how else are people supposed to draw conclusions other than from the info the media gives us? we can't be on site to where the news is happening all around us can we?

Thank you for proving my point.

An intelligent person should be able to take the news that the media gives us, whether it's biased one way or the other, and reach their own conclusion. Like I did above. Fox News tried to make that congressman look bad because he willingly said the things Colbert prompted him to say. They gave their biased viewpoint. But I looked at it and said to myself, "hey, the guy is just joking. Congressmen are allowed to joke, right?" The problem is, most people just watch the news source that is biased in their favor and take what they say unquestioningly. That is bad. You need to consciously filter out the bias in the news and think for yourself.

Edit: And if you think I just filter out the bias from the right, again see my post above. This thread started with a video that was biased to the left that tried to make Fox News look bad. I rejected that bias as well.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: thegimp03
Have you been sleeping under a rock? All news networks are biased one way another. Liberals call Fox "Faux" and conservatives call CNN the "Clinton News Network".

yeah, but the thing is that the conservatives are wrong.

And you expose your own bias. To deny CNN's liberal bias is to deny reality.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Pathetic. So what if Fox News shortened the video? It was a funny video and would have taken up too much time if they showed all of the "coaching" and whatnot.

LMAO @ Narrator...what an idiot.

Well you are just as pathetic, you ignored the whole setup by Fox as if it were news and not a joke. They were trying to Dem bash, it's what they do 24/7.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
fox only looks so far right because the other networks are so far left

Largely true. Fox does have a bit of a right leaning bias, but not nearly as much as people claim, and not nearly as much bias as the rest of the news channels that lean to the left.

But you'll never get partisans to admit that.

Amused, I'm just wondering if you know of any studies that have been done to compare bias in Fox News vs. CNN or MSNBC. I'm pretty sure at least one exists...

I've seen plenty. The problem is, all are slanted to come to the preconceived conclusions of the author.

Didn't like the results, eh? ;) I'm so tired of people on both sides whining about bias this, bias that. Just because there's something you don't want to hear doesn't mean it's false and fabricated. That goes for both left and right whiners.

It's not a matter of "liking" or disliking. It's a matter of personal bias. The fact that I can find just about an equal number of "studies" showing bias in one direction, another direction, or no bias at all shows that all are questionable. Curiously, the finding of the studies most often follow the personal bent of the author of the studies.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Pathetic. So what if Fox News shortened the video? It was a funny video and would have taken up too much time if they showed all of the "coaching" and whatnot.

LMAO @ Narrator...what an idiot.

Well you are just as pathetic, you ignored the whole setup by Fox as if it were news and not a joke. They were trying to Dem bash, it's what they do 24/7.

They said it was from the Colbert Report on the "Comedy Channel" (Comedy Central). They showed Colbert prompting him. It should have been obvious to any clear thinking person that it was a joke, even if they aren't familiar with the Colbert Report.

Why they thought it was newsworthy is beyond me.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Pathetic. So what if Fox News shortened the video? It was a funny video and would have taken up too much time if they showed all of the "coaching" and whatnot.

LMAO @ Narrator...what an idiot.

Well you are just as pathetic, you ignored the whole setup by Fox as if it were news and not a joke. They were trying to Dem bash, it's what they do 24/7.

No they weren't. In fact, the other news outlets did the very same thing. They all shortened it to just the relevant points.

Even Colbert points that out using ABC's Good Morning America as his first example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbhLKgzep1w