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Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan

BBond

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This is why the Bush administration wants to keep people in Guantanamo forever. People who have no charges against them and indeed in many cases have committed no crime. Because when they are released Bush has no way of defending the illegal, unethical, downright criminal activities the U.S. -- WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM BUSH AND HIS BUDDY GONZALEZ -- is conducting in their gulags.

More fuel for the fire.

Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan">http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1481929,00.html</a>

Randeep Ramesh, south asia correspondent
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

At least four people were killed and dozens injured in a riot in eastern Afghanistan yesterday after police fired on demonstrators protesting about reports that the Qur'an had been desecrated by US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

Offices in Jalalabad were set on fire, shops sacked and consulates and UN buildings attacked by rioters, according to witnesses. Police fired to disperse crowds several times and army helicopters were said to have "buzzed" the crowds. Doctors in the city confirmed that four people had died.

This was the second day of protests in the city sparked by claims in Newsweek magazine that interrogators in Cuba, where hundreds of prisoners captured in Afghanistan are held, kept copies of the Qur'an in toilets, and "in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet". The US state department said it was investigating the claims.

About 2,000 students, chanting "death to America", protested in the city on Tuesday, demanding an apology from the US. Thousands more turned out yesterday, with schoolchildren and residents said to have taken part.

The trouble began when a coalition convoy was pelted with stones. "Police opened fire in the air to control the mob, and some people were injured," Jalalabad's police chief, Abdul Rehman, told Reuters.

The violence soon became out of control as cars were smashed and set ablaze. The demonstrators also attacked the Indian mission, and the BBC reported that the Pakistani consul's house had been burned down. There were reports that the protests had spread to the city of Khost, with hundreds of students taking to the streets.

The protesters also denounced Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, destroying a picture of him and shouting "death to America's allies" and "death to Karzai", as well as "death to Bush". "We don't want America, we don't want Karzai, we want Islam," they shouted.

Jalalabad is 80 miles east of the Afghan capital, Kabul, and lies on the road to the Khyber Pass, on the Pakistani border.

"The city was only under control when the governor of the province flew back on a US helicopter. But it is still a tense city," said Fakhar Kakakhel of the Pakistani station Aaj TV.

Insulting the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy pun ishable by death in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The US commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,000, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, the architect of the September 11 attacks.
 
The U.S.: Making ever more friends around the Globe. Great job guys.... If you're going to do it, don't allow it to leak.
 
as a check to see if the public cares someone should buy some ad space that shows someone flushing down the bible
 
Originally posted by: Czar
as a check to see if the public cares someone should buy some ad space that shows someone flushing down the bible

I think the years long right wing radical furor over "Piss Christ" is a good enough check.
 
The violence spurred by reports of U.S. soldiers desecrating the Qu'ran at Guantanamo is spreading.

Protests Against U.S. Spread Across Afghanistan

By CARLOTTA GALL
Published: May 13, 2005

KABUL, Afghanistan, May 12 - Anti-American violence spread to 10 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces and into Pakistan on Thursday as four more protesters died in a third day of demonstrations and clashes with the police.

Hundreds of students took part in three separate demonstrations here in the capital, where they burned an American flag, and a provincial office of CARE International was ransacked in a continuation of the most widespread protests against the American presence since the fall of the Taliban government more than three years ago.

In the most violent single incident, the police fired on hundreds of tribesmen from Khogiani, a district in eastern Afghanistan, who were trying to march in protest on Jalalabad, the town where four people died and 60 were wounded on Wednesday.

The police blocked the tribesmen, many of whom were armed, 20 miles from the city and had orders to fire into the air to disperse the crowd, said Fazel Muhammad Ibrahimi, the director of health in the province.

The Afghan authorities and Kabul residents said the spate of violence was the fault of outsiders, who they said were seeking to capitalize on student protests stirred up by reports, most recently in the May 9 issue of Newsweek, that Americans had desecrated the Koran during interrogations at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Islamic fundamentalist political parties, remnants of the former Taliban government and a renegade anti-American commander, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, are all possible sources of the violence, said Lutfullah Mashal, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry.

The American military is still trying to analyze whether the violence is politically driven, instigated by outsiders or a sign of general public frustration with the slow pace of reconstruction in the country, said a spokesman, Col. James Yonts. Students interviewed in Kabul pointed to the presence of American troops in the country as another source of resentment.

Local governors might also be encouraging protests against the central government and its American backers to improve their own standing before parliamentary elections in September, said Jandad Spinghar, head of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission in Jalalabad.

Seeking to calm the passions raised by the desecration report, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed regret for the loss of life and promised a full investigation of the allegation against Americans at Guantánamo. "Disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be tolerated by the United States," Ms. Rice said in a surprise statement issued before an appearance at the Senate Appropriations Committee.

Protests erupted throughout the country on Thursday, spreading south from the capital region.

In the town of Chak in Wardak Province, south of Kabul, a high school student was killed and five were wounded when the police opened fire on demonstrators who marched on the provincial capital, said the provincial police chief, Basir Salangi.

"The people claim the police did it, and the police say it was the demonstrators," he said, reflecting the confusion over many of the clashes that broke out. The protesters set fire to the administration building, in anger at the shooting by the police, the official Afghan news agency, Bakhtar, reported, quoting one of the student demonstrators.

In Logar, another province south of Kabul, protesters toppled a mobile telephone tower and destroyed equipment at its base overnight, local officials said. High school students then gathered at their school in the town of Muhammad Agha at 7:30 a.m. Thursday to protest the report from Guantánamo. Protesters broke the windows of a new foreign-financed district administration office that was opened just last Saturday by President Hamid Karzai.

The rioters then attacked the offices of CARE International, the American aid group, and of another aid organization next door, scaling the walls, breaking windows and smashing computers and beating some of the local staff. The crowd returned three times to the compound during the day, Paul Barker, the country director of CARE, said.

The high school students did not instigate the violence, Mr. Barker said. "They were the majority," he said, "but our staff feels someone else was the instigation." He cited the demolition of the telephone tower and a roadside explosion that wounded a policeman as proof that the violent acts required more sophistication than could be expected from teenagers.

A prominent local political figure was killed in Ghazni Province, south of Kabul, in an attack that the governor, Asadullah Khan, attributed to Taliban insurgents. Two of the attackers were killed and seven arrested, the Bakhtar news agency reported.

Three people were killed and two injured by another roadside bomb, further south in Zabul Province, on Wednesday, said an official in the governor's office, who added that Taliban insurgents were suspected there as well.

Hundreds of students from Kabul University and Kabul Polytechnic demonstrated in the capital, Kabul, but with a heavy police presence, their protest remained peaceful. They blocked traffic for an hour outside the university as they chanted anti-American slogans and burned an American flag.

Some of the students demanded that the United States interrogators, who are alleged to have placed copies of the Koran in a toilet to upset detainees and in one case to have flushed the holy book down the toilet, be arrested and tried by a Muslim court. Desecration of the Koran is punishable by death in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Others said they wanted President Bush to make a formal apology to all Muslims for the sacrilege. Protesters also complained about the continued presence of United States troops in Afghanistan. "The students are calling in one voice: we don't want American bases in Afghanistan," said a medical student, Layek Zakim.

"Those Americans who come to our country and killed students should be arrested and executed," he said, apparently referring to the death of four protesters in Jalalabad on Wednesday, the day after the protest there began. American troops were in the town during the unrest and were blocked from entering their base by an angry crowd.

The soldiers fired into the air to break up the crowd, as did the Afghan police, Colonel Yonts said, but he denied that the soldiers had harmed any of the protesters.

Demonstrations were reported in nine or 10 Afghan towns, including several in northern part of the country, and in the northwest Pakistani city of Peshawar. More protests were announced for Friday and Saturday.
 
BBond you are fricking insane. So now Afghanistan is a illegal occupation as well?

Why don't we just surrender to these terrorists, huh? Lets just treat them like they were regular innocent people and let them loose.

It also says the US might have desecrated the quran. Is there a investigation? Why are you jumping to conclusions rather quickly? Oh right, its because US soldiers are evil in your sick, twisted radical leftist mind.

By the way, your link sucks.

But nice job of cheering on the violence against our brave soldiers.
 
If people are stupid enough do this, then I guess survival of the fittest is true.

This is like Americans rioting when palastinians burn a US flag and people get killed.

Oh wait that never happens.

 
Originally posted by: conjur
Blaming the protesters, eh Genx? Lovely.

So much for them having freedoms.

Hey they can do whatever they want, I never said they couldnt. However if you are going to protest over rumors and people get killed. Yes I think that is nothing but survival of the fittest.

 
Rumors? Yeah...right.

Where's your outrage about innocent people being killed? Were you cheering the deaths of those at Kent State, too?
 
You need to learn to read the story and get the story behind the fluff.

The story says police fired into the air yet leads one to believe they shot into the crowd.

It doesnt state how they died in the riots only that 4 died eventhough it makes it sound like they were shot by police..

Kent State is a completely different situation. Any riot that gets out of control and people get injured who are part of the riot I have zero compassion. Just like I have zero compassion for people jumping off cliffs, swimming with sharks, wrestling crocs.

You bring it on yourself at that point.
 
Originally posted by: BBond
This is why the Bush administration wants to keep people in Guantanamo forever. People who have no charges against them and indeed in many cases have committed no crime. Because when they are released Bush has no way of defending the illegal, unethical, downright criminal activities the U.S. -- WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM BUSH AND HIS BUDDY GONZALEZ -- is conducting in their gulags.

More fuel for the fire.

Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan">http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1481929,00.html</a>

Randeep Ramesh, south asia correspondent
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

At least four people were killed and dozens injured in a riot in eastern Afghanistan yesterday after police fired on demonstrators protesting about reports that the Qur'an had been desecrated by US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

Offices in Jalalabad were set on fire, shops sacked and consulates and UN buildings attacked by rioters, according to witnesses. Police fired to disperse crowds several times and army helicopters were said to have "buzzed" the crowds. Doctors in the city confirmed that four people had died.

This was the second day of protests in the city sparked by claims in Newsweek magazine that interrogators in Cuba, where hundreds of prisoners captured in Afghanistan are held, kept copies of the Qur'an in toilets, and "in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet". The US state department said it was investigating the claims.

About 2,000 students, chanting "death to America", protested in the city on Tuesday, demanding an apology from the US. Thousands more turned out yesterday, with schoolchildren and residents said to have taken part.

The trouble began when a coalition convoy was pelted with stones. "Police opened fire in the air to control the mob, and some people were injured," Jalalabad's police chief, Abdul Rehman, told Reuters.

The violence soon became out of control as cars were smashed and set ablaze. The demonstrators also attacked the Indian mission, and the BBC reported that the Pakistani consul's house had been burned down. There were reports that the protests had spread to the city of Khost, with hundreds of students taking to the streets.

The protesters also denounced Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, destroying a picture of him and shouting "death to America's allies" and "death to Karzai", as well as "death to Bush". "We don't want America, we don't want Karzai, we want Islam," they shouted.

Jalalabad is 80 miles east of the Afghan capital, Kabul, and lies on the road to the Khyber Pass, on the Pakistani border.

"The city was only under control when the governor of the province flew back on a US helicopter. But it is still a tense city," said Fakhar Kakakhel of the Pakistani station Aaj TV.

Insulting the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy pun ishable by death in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The US commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,000, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, the architect of the September 11 attacks.

Yes, as a matter of fact Bush TOLD the soldiers to abuse the Qur'an! I saw him do it my own self while BBond was licking my rectum!

You're an idiot, old man. Blame the SOLDIERS, not the chimp thousands of miles away. Oh wait, in your little world NO ONE has responsibility for their own actions, every bad thing that ever happens is directly traceable to chimp-boy.

What an *idiot*!

Jason

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Czar
as a check to see if the public cares someone should buy some ad space that shows someone flushing down the bible

I think the years long right wing radical furor over "Piss Christ" is a good enough check.

While they did overreact about Piss Christ, it *was* a singularly tasteless piece with virtually no redeeming qualities. More than being expressive it was just stupid.

Jason
 
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: BBond
This is why the Bush administration wants to keep people in Guantanamo forever. People who have no charges against them and indeed in many cases have committed no crime. Because when they are released Bush has no way of defending the illegal, unethical, downright criminal activities the U.S. -- WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM BUSH AND HIS BUDDY GONZALEZ -- is conducting in their gulags.

More fuel for the fire.

Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan">http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1481929,00.html</a>

Randeep Ramesh, south asia correspondent
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

At least four people were killed and dozens injured in a riot in eastern Afghanistan yesterday after police fired on demonstrators protesting about reports that the Qur'an had been desecrated by US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

Offices in Jalalabad were set on fire, shops sacked and consulates and UN buildings attacked by rioters, according to witnesses. Police fired to disperse crowds several times and army helicopters were said to have "buzzed" the crowds. Doctors in the city confirmed that four people had died.

This was the second day of protests in the city sparked by claims in Newsweek magazine that interrogators in Cuba, where hundreds of prisoners captured in Afghanistan are held, kept copies of the Qur'an in toilets, and "in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet". The US state department said it was investigating the claims.

About 2,000 students, chanting "death to America", protested in the city on Tuesday, demanding an apology from the US. Thousands more turned out yesterday, with schoolchildren and residents said to have taken part.

The trouble began when a coalition convoy was pelted with stones. "Police opened fire in the air to control the mob, and some people were injured," Jalalabad's police chief, Abdul Rehman, told Reuters.

The violence soon became out of control as cars were smashed and set ablaze. The demonstrators also attacked the Indian mission, and the BBC reported that the Pakistani consul's house had been burned down. There were reports that the protests had spread to the city of Khost, with hundreds of students taking to the streets.

The protesters also denounced Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, destroying a picture of him and shouting "death to America's allies" and "death to Karzai", as well as "death to Bush". "We don't want America, we don't want Karzai, we want Islam," they shouted.

Jalalabad is 80 miles east of the Afghan capital, Kabul, and lies on the road to the Khyber Pass, on the Pakistani border.

"The city was only under control when the governor of the province flew back on a US helicopter. But it is still a tense city," said Fakhar Kakakhel of the Pakistani station Aaj TV.

Insulting the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy pun ishable by death in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The US commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,000, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, the architect of the September 11 attacks.

Yes, as a matter of fact Bush TOLD the soldiers to abuse the Qur'an! I saw him do it my own self while BBond was licking my rectum!

You're an idiot, old man. Blame the SOLDIERS, not the chimp thousands of miles away. Oh wait, in your little world NO ONE has responsibility for their own actions, every bad thing that ever happens is directly traceable to chimp-boy.

What an *idiot*!

Jason

Honest to God, I have no idea how you keep posting this type of garbage over and over without earning a nice long vacation.

 
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: BBond
This is why the Bush administration wants to keep people in Guantanamo forever. People who have no charges against them and indeed in many cases have committed no crime. Because when they are released Bush has no way of defending the illegal, unethical, downright criminal activities the U.S. -- WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM BUSH AND HIS BUDDY GONZALEZ -- is conducting in their gulags.

More fuel for the fire.

Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan">http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1481929,00.html</a>

Randeep Ramesh, south asia correspondent
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

At least four people were killed and dozens injured in a riot in eastern Afghanistan yesterday after police fired on demonstrators protesting about reports that the Qur'an had been desecrated by US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

Offices in Jalalabad were set on fire, shops sacked and consulates and UN buildings attacked by rioters, according to witnesses. Police fired to disperse crowds several times and army helicopters were said to have "buzzed" the crowds. Doctors in the city confirmed that four people had died.

This was the second day of protests in the city sparked by claims in Newsweek magazine that interrogators in Cuba, where hundreds of prisoners captured in Afghanistan are held, kept copies of the Qur'an in toilets, and "in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet". The US state department said it was investigating the claims.

About 2,000 students, chanting "death to America", protested in the city on Tuesday, demanding an apology from the US. Thousands more turned out yesterday, with schoolchildren and residents said to have taken part.

The trouble began when a coalition convoy was pelted with stones. "Police opened fire in the air to control the mob, and some people were injured," Jalalabad's police chief, Abdul Rehman, told Reuters.

The violence soon became out of control as cars were smashed and set ablaze. The demonstrators also attacked the Indian mission, and the BBC reported that the Pakistani consul's house had been burned down. There were reports that the protests had spread to the city of Khost, with hundreds of students taking to the streets.

The protesters also denounced Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, destroying a picture of him and shouting "death to America's allies" and "death to Karzai", as well as "death to Bush". "We don't want America, we don't want Karzai, we want Islam," they shouted.

Jalalabad is 80 miles east of the Afghan capital, Kabul, and lies on the road to the Khyber Pass, on the Pakistani border.

"The city was only under control when the governor of the province flew back on a US helicopter. But it is still a tense city," said Fakhar Kakakhel of the Pakistani station Aaj TV.

Insulting the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy pun ishable by death in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The US commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,000, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, the architect of the September 11 attacks.

Yes, as a matter of fact Bush TOLD the soldiers to abuse the Qur'an! I saw him do it my own self while BBond was licking my rectum!

You're an idiot, old man. Blame the SOLDIERS, not the chimp thousands of miles away. Oh wait, in your little world NO ONE has responsibility for their own actions, every bad thing that ever happens is directly traceable to chimp-boy.

What an *idiot*!

Jason

Honest to God, I have no idea how you keep posting this type of garbage over and over without earning a nice long vacation.


Talk about the pot calling the kettle
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
BBond you are fricking insane. So now Afghanistan is a illegal occupation as well?

Why don't we just surrender to these terrorists, huh? Lets just treat them like they were regular innocent people and let them loose.

It also says the US might have desecrated the quran. Is there a investigation? Why are you jumping to conclusions rather quickly? Oh right, its because US soldiers are evil in your sick, twisted radical leftist mind.

By the way, your link sucks.

But nice job of cheering on the violence against our brave soldiers.

Show me where I said Afghanistan is an illegal occupation. I do believe Bush ran away from his responsibilities in Afghanistan, as we all now know, to set in motion his real plans to invade Iraq. Plans he cooked up with Blair to fake evidence of WMD. But the invasion of Afghnistan was always justified IMO. I wish Bush had finished the job before moving on to unnecessary illegal invasions elsewhere.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: BBond
This is why the Bush administration wants to keep people in Guantanamo forever. People who have no charges against them and indeed in many cases have committed no crime. Because when they are released Bush has no way of defending the illegal, unethical, downright criminal activities the U.S. -- WITH FULL APPROVAL FROM BUSH AND HIS BUDDY GONZALEZ -- is conducting in their gulags.

More fuel for the fire.

Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan">http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1481929,00.html</a>

Randeep Ramesh, south asia correspondent
Thursday May 12, 2005
The Guardian

At least four people were killed and dozens injured in a riot in eastern Afghanistan yesterday after police fired on demonstrators protesting about reports that the Qur'an had been desecrated by US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

Offices in Jalalabad were set on fire, shops sacked and consulates and UN buildings attacked by rioters, according to witnesses. Police fired to disperse crowds several times and army helicopters were said to have "buzzed" the crowds. Doctors in the city confirmed that four people had died.

This was the second day of protests in the city sparked by claims in Newsweek magazine that interrogators in Cuba, where hundreds of prisoners captured in Afghanistan are held, kept copies of the Qur'an in toilets, and "in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet". The US state department said it was investigating the claims.

About 2,000 students, chanting "death to America", protested in the city on Tuesday, demanding an apology from the US. Thousands more turned out yesterday, with schoolchildren and residents said to have taken part.

The trouble began when a coalition convoy was pelted with stones. "Police opened fire in the air to control the mob, and some people were injured," Jalalabad's police chief, Abdul Rehman, told Reuters.

The violence soon became out of control as cars were smashed and set ablaze. The demonstrators also attacked the Indian mission, and the BBC reported that the Pakistani consul's house had been burned down. There were reports that the protests had spread to the city of Khost, with hundreds of students taking to the streets.

The protesters also denounced Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, destroying a picture of him and shouting "death to America's allies" and "death to Karzai", as well as "death to Bush". "We don't want America, we don't want Karzai, we want Islam," they shouted.

Jalalabad is 80 miles east of the Afghan capital, Kabul, and lies on the road to the Khyber Pass, on the Pakistani border.

"The city was only under control when the governor of the province flew back on a US helicopter. But it is still a tense city," said Fakhar Kakakhel of the Pakistani station Aaj TV.

Insulting the Qur'an or the prophet Muhammad is regarded as blasphemy pun ishable by death in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The US commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,000, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, the architect of the September 11 attacks.

Yes, as a matter of fact Bush TOLD the soldiers to abuse the Qur'an! I saw him do it my own self while BBond was licking my rectum!

You're an idiot, old man. Blame the SOLDIERS, not the chimp thousands of miles away. Oh wait, in your little world NO ONE has responsibility for their own actions, every bad thing that ever happens is directly traceable to chimp-boy.

What an *idiot*!

Jason

Honest to God, I have no idea how you keep posting this type of garbage over and over without earning a nice long vacation.


Talk about the pot calling the kettle

Please, show me an example.
 
Have those "brave" soldiers desecrated the Qur'an or not?

There are also muslim in America, and I think common Americans may also know somthing about this religion and are not so stupid to do that kind of thing.

And where are the officers? They should tell them some basic rules...

As I know, Nazi soldiers were also brave:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: conjur
Blaming the protesters, eh Genx? Lovely.

So much for them having freedoms.

These are NOT protesters, these are RIOTERS. One is acceptable, the other is not.

Jason
They were protesters in which some turned into rioters after the police made more aggressive moves to disperse the crowd.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
You need to learn to read the story and get the story behind the fluff.

The story says police fired into the air yet leads one to believe they shot into the crowd.

It doesnt state how they died in the riots only that 4 died eventhough it makes it sound like they were shot by police..

Kent State is a completely different situation. Any riot that gets out of control and people get injured who are part of the riot I have zero compassion. Just like I have zero compassion for people jumping off cliffs, swimming with sharks, wrestling crocs.

You bring it on yourself at that point.
So, a peaceful crowd was deemed a threat by the police for what?

And, in Kent State, you do realize there was ZERO need to shoot anyone, right?
 
What I really want to know is whether its true or not what the interrogators did. Or is it rumors reported to Newsweek and designed to spread and incite more ill will towards the US? If its true then nothing short of the President apologizing and those responsible punished would help to calm the Muslim world. If its false than these protestors are idiots.

Follow up on BBond's Protest spreads across Afghanistan

Protests across Muslim world over Koran report
KABUL, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Angry protests raged across the Muslim world from Gaza to Indonesia on Friday over a report U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had desecrated the Koran, with calls for retaliation and a rising death toll.

Governments demanded investigations and thousands took to the streets in outrage over a Newsweek magazine report that interrogators at a U.S. military prison in Cuba had put the Muslim holy book on toilets, in at least one case flushing it down.

In
Afghanistan, at least nine people were killed in protests over the report on Friday, bringing the country's death toll to 16 this week in its worst anti-American demonstrations since the fall of the Taliban.

The unrest spread to Pakistan, which called for a U.S. probe. Hundreds of people held a peaceful protest in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation.

In Gaza, several thousand Palestinians marched through a refugee camp in a protest organized by the Islamic militant group Hamas. Several hundred Palestinians also marched in the West Bank city of Hebron.

"The Holy Koran was defiled by the dirtiest of hands, by American hands," a protester shouted at the Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza, where U.S. and Israeli flags were also burned.

The escalating violence prompted Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice to urge Muslims on Thursday to resist calls for violence, saying U.S. military authorities were investigating the Koran allegations.

"Disrespect for the Holy Koran is abhorrent to us all," she said.

Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God, treating each book with deep reverence, and the episode has embarrassed the United States, which has sought closer ties with Muslim allies as it wages its war on terrorism.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan, desecration of the Koran is punishable by death.

DAMAGED REPUTATION

The United States' reputation had already been damaged by photographs released last year of physical and sexual abuse of Muslim prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in
Iraq.

Washington's allies demanded action and an investigation. Indonesia said those responsible must receive a "deserved punishment" for their "immoral action." Pakistan also called for a U.S. probe, and Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, said it was following the issue with "deep indignation."

Sentiments ran higher in the streets.

"Demonstrations serve no purpose, we should do something practical. I am ready to blow myself up for the sake of my religion to embrace martyrdom," said Mohammad Ghafoor, 18, a student protesting in Peshawar, Pakistan.

Newsweek, in its May 9 edition, quoted sources as saying that investigators probing abuses at the military prison had found that interrogators "had placed Korans on toilets, and in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet."

Washington is holding more than 500 prisoners from its war on terrorism at the naval base on Cuba, many of them detained in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The report prompted the worst anti-U.S. protests across that fragmented country since Americans invaded to topple Kabul's Islamist Taliban rulers for harboring
Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network.

On Friday, Islamic clerics in Afghanistan told worshipers at weekly prayers that protests over the reported desecration of the holy book were justified.

They urged Muslims to shun violence, but their words fell on deaf ears as clashes erupted in different parts of the country, claiming at least nine lives, most those of protesters shot by police.

About 100 people have been injured there in days of protests, and police stations, U.N. and aid group offices and government premises have been ransacked and torched.

The United States commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,300, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al Qaeda leaders, including bin Laden.

(Additional reporting by Simon Cameron-Moore in Islamabad, Zeeshan Haider and Saeed Ali Achakzai in Chaman, Pakistan, and Nidal al-Mughrahbi in Gaza)
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Originally posted by: maddogchen
What I really want to know is whether its true or not what the interrogators did. Or is it rumors reported to Newsweek and designed to spread and incite more ill will towards the US? If its true then nothing short of the President apologizing and those responsible punished would help to calm the Muslim world. If its false than these protestors are idiots.
Considering everything else that went on in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. I'm not surprised at all it happened. Perhaps there more in this:

Soldier lifts lid on Camp Delta
For the first time, an army insider blows the whistle on human rights abuses at Guantánamo
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1479040,00.html
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: maddogchen
What I really want to know is whether its true or not what the interrogators did. Or is it rumors reported to Newsweek and designed to spread and incite more ill will towards the US? If its true then nothing short of the President apologizing and those responsible punished would help to calm the Muslim world. If its false than these protestors are idiots.
Considering everything else that went on in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. I'm not surprised at all it happened. Perhaps there more in this:

Soldier lifts lid on Camp Delta
For the first time, an army insider blows the whistle on human rights abuses at Guantánamo
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1479040,00.html

yeah, i've heard a lot of bad things coming out of Guantanamo, and I think I remember reading about Eric Saar and this book in Time mag I think. It also seems a lot of the info i've read about Guantanmo has mentioned these IRF teams and their abusive practices. Its good that people are coming out with reports of abuses. Its something the public should be informed about. Reports from prisoners I can understand would probably be brushed aside, but more and more reports from people that have worked there brings much more credibility.

Its sad, something needs to be done about Guantanamo, a better option must be found.
 
Desecrating a religious book surely is offensive. However, I thought it was funny when I saw some images of the protests - they were burning an American flag.
 
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