Four countries cut ties with Qatar

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IronWing

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If Qatar and the Sauds get a divorce, who gets custody of the kids (ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc.)?
 

alien42

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He wasn't alone on this one. Several nations cut ties before he opened his mouth.

that's the problem though, he was literally 3rd in line for the false info, if not more. and here are the two Trump tweets combined, ftr...

"So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!"
 

woolfe9998

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Why? It seems to be working for him.

For now, perhaps. But it's becoming increasingly common knowledge what they are doing.

Actually, I would argue whether last year's election interference is really working out for him. If his sole objective was to screw us up by electing Trump, then yes. If it was to get favors from Trump, then probably not. Trump's hands are pretty much tied now.
 

brycejones

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For now, perhaps. But it's becoming increasingly common knowledge what they are doing.

Actually, I would argue whether last year's election interference is really working out for him. If his sole objective was to screw us up by electing Trump, then yes. If it was to get favors from Trump, then probably not. Trump's hands are pretty much tied now.

I'm not convinced they really wanted Trump. They wanted some chaos and a divided electorate of which a good chunk would be calling for more hearings about Ben Ghazi and his acting. But ultimately I think they understand having an adult in charge would be best.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm not convinced they really wanted Trump. They wanted some chaos and a divided electorate of which a good chunk would be calling for more hearings about Ben Ghazi and his acting. But ultimately I think they understand having an adult in charge would be best.

If they understood that they would have let Hillary win.
 

ivwshane

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Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE are all majority sunni muslim nations and allies for most purposes. Saudi Arabia is the largest, richest, and most populous of these nations, but Qatar is arguably the most influential in terms of geopolitics. The worldwide cable channel al-Jazeera is based in Qatar and it is very influential.

The cause of this conflict is mostly support for the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikwhan) by Qatar and al-Jazeera and the refusal of Qatar to go along with anti-Iranian policy.

Iran is currently viewed by Saudi as the biggest threat to... well... everything. They want Iran to have literally zero influence in the middle east, and they are hell bent on accomplishing this goal. Saudi arabia also hates the Muslim Brotherhood, because they were (before ISIS) the largest islamist revolutionary force in the middle east. They were and are a threat to the Saudi monarchy, so Qatar's support for them is a serious problem.


Saudi Arabia has recently taken the stance that all its allies must be allied with them in the fight against Iran. Qatar has refused, and so Saudi Arabia has decided it will throw a diplomatic tantrum and close its airports to flights and then complain.

Thank you!


So in essence, Qatar is the US of NATO in the middle east?


To me this sounds like a good thing but then again, I'm not really a fan of saudi Arabia and I think Iran (more specifically its people) have more in common with us than the Saudis do.
 
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norseamd

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Prior to Trump's trip there was some concern that he could be co-opted by the Saudi's to advance their interests in the region at our expense. It would seem those concerns were well founded. Bet there is some good face palming going on at the Pentagon today.

Would you have any links at all perchance?
 

norseamd

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K1052

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Would you have any links at all perchance?

As I recall I saw it on "Fake News" CNN some reporters and nat sec people were talking about it as a possibility, more with respect specifically to Yemen but the thrust of the idea is the same. Given his tweets it seems likely the Saudis were griping about Qatar as they are want to do and our El Presidente heard some of it.