Forza 3 Game Night. Bring it, part deux!

[ivan2]

nurbering track is out guys, now i wait for good deals on points.

 

[Kabob]

I'm not downloading it...I never got to race the DLC tracks in FM2.

 

[ivan2]

we did road america in enduro

 

[Kabob]

Yup, I raced RA with you guys once on Supercar night, that was the only time I ever raced it in MP. I think I played it once or twice on Hot Laps...still not worth $5.

 

[Lotheron]

I'm racing RA all the time on FM3

 

[Kabob]

Well yeah, me too...because everyone has it!

 

[ivan2]

well it wasn't in FM2, but anyway after last night's race i think i need to make my car more consistent so it will be a better blocker.

 

[Kabob]

Out of curiosity are any of your Carlton builds on the Storefront? I haven't built my car yet and other than the basic tuning rules I'd love to have a relatively well set up car. If not I'll survive.

I'm such a mooch...

 

[ivan2]

Out of curiosity are any of your Carlton builds on the Storefront? I haven't built my car yet and other than the basic tuning rules I'd love to have a relatively well set up car. If not I'll survive.

I'm such a mooch...

there's nothing to be set up except for tire inflation and brake bias. i like to run with slightly deflated like 27 or so tires but u can leave it stock and it will run well.

 

[Lotheron]

there's nothing to be set up except for tire inflation and brake bias. i like to run with slightly deflated like 27 or so tires but u can leave it stock and it will run well.

Yeah, it's surprisingly well composed if built to the tunes spec. Tends to be a little twitchy on the oversteer, but other than that a decent ride.

 

[Lotheron]

On a side note, why do I feel it's just Kabob, Famous, and myself this week.. between this thread and the enduro thread...

 

[Kabob]

My buddy Dave plans on running with us.

 

[Hopeless]

On a side note, why do I feel it's just Kabob, Famous, and myself this week.. between this thread and the enduro thread...

I've got one built to the specs, planning on being there just late as usual. Just haven't talked much about it as I've been running mostly career races. Gained a few levels last night and finally got my first R class freebie car.

My buddy Dave plans on running with us.

I noticed when I checked the leaderboards filtered to friends that there were few times posted by slayer. Was wondering if he was going to join in on the races.

 

[Kabob]

Ya know I haven't gamed with him in a while (which is odd because we're IRL friends). My wife and I are actually having dinner with he and his wife this weekend.

Thing about Doug is that at least in FM2 he didn't like racing anything slower than an S class.

 

[greydumplin]

This weeks car...*drumroll please*

SPEC Lotus Carlton's @B500.

Cheap build that is really well balanced and easy to drive, and SPEC means SPEC. I know there are suspension upgrades that can be done with this build that will not change the PI but lets keep it fair.

Build as follows (assists are your choice as always)...

F/R Forza Aero maxxed 100/200lbs

Sport Tires w/max F/R width upgrades

TSW Trackstar 4 wheels Stock diameter

Stock Driveline EXCEPT:
Sport Clutch
Sport Trans 4.33:1 ratio

Stock Suspension EXCEPT:
Race Brakes (modable for balance/pressure for the non-abs'ers)
Sport Springs & Dampers
Race Cage
Street weight reduction

Stock Engine EXCEPT:
Sport oil & cooling

I must admit I really enjoyed driving this car, not sure why. I have a few questions though

1. The 4:33:1 trans ratio. Is that the same as setting the final drive ratio to 4.33?

2. Why did you choose to go with max aero and race cage instead of race suspensions and just tightening them?

3. Your use of the race cage is very interesting as the description says it allows the full use of the suspension. Is this a practice that is common? Is it wise to use the race cage in builds because of the full use thingy?

Im really trying to get this tuning thing to click with me instead of just buying tunes, I really wanna understand why some works and some don't and also pinpoint if my bad driving is due to bad tune or just noobness.

Appreciate any replies.

Also, would it be possible for the weekly chosen car to be put at the top of the post. Its really a pain to wade through pages upon pages to refer to a chosen car. Word!!

 

[Hopeless]

Looking at the list it would appear that my round to pick is coming up in a couple weeks. I've already got an idea for it so I figured I'd go ahead and post it to give everyone time to play around. Of course I'm still fairly new at playing the game so some of this may not work, if anyone sees a problem pass it along.

Pick for 24 Feb

R3 800 max

Restrictions:
* No car that has a starting PI higher than R3 800 is allowed, even if it can come down.
* Cars that start below R3 800 are allowed as long as it can get to R3.
* No drivetrain swaps. If the base car is RWD it stays RWD, AWD stays AWD.
* Must have Forza front bumper and spoiler
* Must have race tires.

 

[Abel007]

I must admit I really enjoyed driving this car, not sure why. I have a few questions though

1. The 4:33:1 trans ratio. Is that the same as setting the final drive ratio to 4.33?

Yes, it is the same. He just displayed it here in the correct final drive ratio.

2. Why did you choose to go with max aero and race cage instead of race suspensions and just tightening them?

Max Aero and Roll Cage is a much easier handling upgrade than messing with the suspension. The suspension would be a mess to deal with for a SPEC race where all the cars are built the same.

3. Your use of the race cage is very interesting as the description says it allows the full use of the suspension. Is this a practice that is common? Is it wise to use the race cage in builds because of the full use thingy?

The race cage is going to decrease the lean of the car left or right. It stiffens the body of the car so the suspension can more easily work to turn the car through a corner.

Im really trying to get this tuning thing to click with me instead of just buying tunes, I really wanna understand why some works and some don't and also pinpoint if my bad driving is due to bad tune or just noobness.

I really wish you could look at the tunes off of the storefront. That would help you out a great deal. The best thing to do is to use a tuning calculator and then start adjusting stuff to the maximum. That will allow you to understand more of what it does and how it affects the car's handling abilities. Start with the tire pressures and work your way across the tabs. It sounds silly but it may help it all 'click'

Appreciate any replies.

Also, would it be possible for the weekly chosen car to be put at the top of the post. Its really a pain to wade through pages upon pages to refer to a chosen car. Word!!

Anymore questions you have feel free to ask. I am not the most mechanically inclined person but I do understand how things work on racing games...for the most part.

 

[Abel007]

On a side note, why do I feel it's just Kabob, Famous, and myself this week.. between this thread and the enduro thread...

I've been around but have not had time to reply. I plan on making an appearance tonight. I love spec races.

 

[Kabob]

Anymore questions you have feel free to ask. I am not the most mechanically inclined person but I do understand how things work on racing games...for the most part.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Mr. Tuner Extrordinaire.

 

[Kabob]

My other buddy plans on racing with us tonight. He's nervous as he's never played FM3 online (and hasn't played the game much as it is...he bought my old 360 when I got a Jasper). I told him it didn't matter if he was fast or not, just race clean and have fun.

HOPEFULLY he'll join in.

 

[Lotheron]

My other buddy plans on racing with us tonight. He's nervous as he's never played FM3 online (and hasn't played the game much as it is...he bought my old 360 when I got a Jasper). I told him it didn't matter if he was fast or not, just race clean and have fun.

HOPEFULLY he'll join in.

Hopepully Quik shows up... you there quik? Hello?!... *tap* *tap* *tap* this thing on?

 

[Kabob]

I'm sure he will.

 

[Supermercado]

I'm in for tonight, I've just been busy this week.

 

[Abel007]

Fun racing last night. Great car and very even for the most part. Laptimes were within a couple of seconds top to bottom.

Ty, tell your buddy to come back next Wed. No reason to get frustrated! Just keep playing. You know the drill by now.

Last night was the first night that I ran with a clutch. I must say, it improved my laptimes a good bit. After the last couple of weeks and Famous catching me very easily I had to give it a try. I can see why he was catching me now. Using the clutch I improved my laptimes by 2-5s per lap! That is huge! I realize that it is all subjective and each lap is different but I consider myself a consistent driver and can usually post laptimes within a second of each other. So, if you have plans to try it out I suggest going ahead and getting used to it. It is a little weird at first as you are hitting the same button everytime but its doable.

 

[ivan2]

great you found the clutch sorry about hitting u in seabring cuz i was startled by the squirly car in front.

next wed is my pick and i want us to test enduro cars, pick whichever car you like from whatever list we end up come up with, and run about 5-6 laps on each grand prix track + tsukuba and laguna the 2 RAs.