former loki users next on the mpaa hitlist?

Stark

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from Ars

This may seem like a repost, but I don't remember the part about users ips getting released to the MPAA.

Judge orders torrent site to close, release logs

2/10/2005 10:15:50 PM, by Eric Bangeman

In a victory for the Motion Picture Association of America, a US District Court judge in Texas has shut down BitTorrent site LokiTorrent.com and orded them to turn over their server logs to the MPAA's attorneys. As of now, visitors to the site are greeted with a friendly message from the MPAA. (Whether the message current LokiTorrent.com is part of the court order or an attempt on the part of the site's owner to curry favor with the MPAA is unclear.)

This website has been permanently shut down by court order because it facilitates the illegal downloading of copyrighted motion pictures. The illegal downloading of motion pictures robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood, and stifles creativity. Illegally downloading movies from sites such as these without proper authorization violates the law, is theft, and is not anonymous. Stealing movies leaves a trail. The only way not to get caught is to stop.

Ah yes, the old identifying trail. Since they now have the server logs, the MPAA plans to pore through them looking for identifying information that could lead to lawsuits against users of the site. A spokesperson for the MPAA said that such actions against high-volume users of the torrent site are likely, assuming they can be identified via IP addresses.

:eek::eek::eek:

In December 2004, the MPAA decided to follow the trail blazed so spectacularly by the RIAA and file lawsuits against those they believed were sharing movies and other copyrighted material. The result was a barrage of lawsuits against torrent sites, Direct Connect hubs, and eDonkey servers. Popular sites like Supernova went dark as a result, while LokiTorrent raised over US$40,000 from its user base to cover legal costs. According to a statement by the MPAA, it looks as though most of that money will go towards a "substantial settlement," with more financial pain if the owner transgresses again.

With torrent sites under attack, it looks like those determined to trade movies and tv shows will have to move further underground. In its press release, MPAA boasts that there has been a 40 percent reduction in the number of servers in operation, and claims that piracy cost them upwards of US$3.5 billion in 2004. While widespread piracy of DVDs endemic to some nations definitely cost the motion picture industry money, studies have shown that downloading movies does little to change the habits of the US public when it comes to going to the movies, buying, or renting DVDs. In the meantime, I wonder how many P2P site operators will be checking out this bit of software from the EFF.

While I think the MPAA And RIAA are peices of dog excrement, the only thing I download these days is TV shows (which to this point seem to be safe). I know LT was popular with lots of people around here... are we going to be seeing any "I"m getting sued by the MPAA" threads around here soon?
 

AntaresVI

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I got a notice from the MPAA regarding the downloading of a DVDR torrent through my university's connection - basically they said to delete it. I did, and never heard about it again.
 

DaveSimmons

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Like I said in another thread: it will be funny if the RIAA ever gets around to paying whatever bribes are needed to get the Russian courts to do the same for allofmp3.com -- so many ATOTers will be so boned :evil:
 

MetalMat

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I don't think much will happen to occasional users like the article said. However, if you were on there 24/7 downloading tons of lllegal stuff.... watch out
 

rh71

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they say lokitorrent was one of the last remaining BT sites... but obviously there are must-register-before-use BT sites... was Lokitorrent that way or an open site like Suprnova ?
 

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quote from MPAA "The illegal downloading of motion pictures robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood, and stifles creativity. "

Now answer me this: How in the hell does me downloading a movie illegally "stifle creativity"????? Is it just me or is that just freakin stupid? Are the writers too sad because i downloaded a movie? Can they not think because of the stress over people downloading movies? I dont know why this is getting to me today but it just drives me up a wall that they can honestly say something like that. Downloading movies has NOTHING to do with creativity, at least the last time i checked it didnt.
 

MetalMat

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Originally posted by: rh71
they say lokitorrent was one of the last remaining BT sites... but obviously there are must-register-before-use BT sites... was Lokitorrent that way or an open site like Suprnova ?

It was open. The only reason to register is to see where the torrent was being posted from as far as I know.
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: rh71
they say lokitorrent was one of the last remaining BT sites... but obviously there are must-register-before-use BT sites... was Lokitorrent that way or an open site like Suprnova ?

from what I read somewhere else you could register

if someone used BT do D/L torrents labeld with the Lokitorrent name, I'm wondering what that means in terms of liability
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: luckysnafu
quote from MPAA "The illegal downloading of motion pictures robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood, and stifles creativity. "

Now answer me this: How in the hell does me downloading a movie illegally "stifle creativity"????? Is it just me or is that just freakin stupid? Are the writers too sad because i downloaded a movie? Can they not think because of the stress over people downloading movies? I dont know why this is getting to me today but it just drives me up a wall that they can honestly say something like that. Downloading movies has NOTHING to do with creativity, at least the last time i checked it didnt.
If you have even a Blockbuster or Netflix subscription instead of stealing movies, some money goes to the studios, and even more when you buy movies instead of burning.

More money per movie means smaller movies are more likely to be profitable, and also more small movies can be subsidized with extra money made by the blockbusters. More small movies = more creativity.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: luckysnafu
quote from MPAA "The illegal downloading of motion pictures robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood, and stifles creativity. "

Now answer me this: How in the hell does me downloading a movie illegally "stifle creativity"????? Is it just me or is that just freakin stupid? Are the writers too sad because i downloaded a movie? Can they not think because of the stress over people downloading movies? I dont know why this is getting to me today but it just drives me up a wall that they can honestly say something like that. Downloading movies has NOTHING to do with creativity, at least the last time i checked it didnt.
You can read it this way... profits fall because the industry is losing money. Less profits = less interest by new talent/blood in the industry.

If you knew CS was a dying career and its salaries were dropping, would you still study it ?

Of course this is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure this is what they are alluding to.
 

0roo0roo

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welleven if gthey have the logs they need the isp to cough up the matching user to ip. some dont.. i dont think sbc does that
 

Chadder007

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So like when is the RIAA and MPAA going to actually quit making stupid lawsuits and actually be creative themselves by coming up and/or promoting pay per download of Music/Movies/TV shows?
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Like I said in another thread: it will be funny if the RIAA ever gets around to paying whatever bribes are needed to get the Russian courts to do the same for allofmp3.com -- so many ATOTers will be so boned :evil:

:(
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: shimsham
im glad i quit wayyy back in the kazaa days. just not worth it.


Weakling. All for the better, though, the fewer of us there are flying the Jolly Roger on the high seas, the stronger we shall become.
 

Drakkon

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
So like when is the RIAA and MPAA going to actually quit making stupid lawsuits and actually be creative themselves by coming up and/or promoting pay per download of Music/Movies/TV shows?

never...theres more money to be made bitching and moaning about the ruination of the industry and the ability to create/distribute their own hardcopies of music/movies and sell them
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: shimsham
im glad i quit wayyy back in the kazaa days. just not worth it.


Weakling. All for the better, though, the fewer of us there are flying the Jolly Roger on the high seas, the stronger we shall become.

yoU GUYS ARE NOTS! The MPAA scares me!

 

neonerd

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change your IP ;):p

that sucks though, all the good torrent sites are gone :(:brokenheart:
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yukichigai

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: spiderrasmon
torrentreactor.net

TR went down with suprnova

the one up now is a scam run by the mpaa
Sure you're thinking of the correct site? I don't remember anything about that.
 

vood0g

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
So like when is the RIAA and MPAA going to actually quit making stupid lawsuits and actually be creative themselves by coming up and/or promoting pay per download of Music/Movies/TV shows?

i dont think its going to help if they do it. people are still going to find the free route.