Former Justice Department Lawyer Accuses Holder of Dropping New Black Panther Case fo

[classy]

So I assume then if a couple of guys in white sheets and hoods are standing around outside a polling place with night sticks shouting racial epithets at any blacks that happen to walk in all is good as long as the blacks continue to go in and vote?

You missed the whole point. The government did not say they did nothing wrong, just that they did nothing that would get a conviction. Big difference. While the the injunction may not be much, at least its something. And apparently there was not much evidence they were bombarding people with racial epithets either. And while destestable, people have done this and worse at polling places.

The color of the people don't mean anything in reality. As I mentioned what happened in 2004 under the Bush Administration. Name calling is not necessarily a crime. I am not defending these guys at all, but this idea Holder and Obama did not prosecute because they are black is insane. Remember Obama refused to meet with Farrakhan and rejected his endorsement. OB hasn't shown at anytime he likes the muslim radicals.

 

[waggy]

actually nothing will come of this.....
The only thing this thread has proven is that you are a lot like Lemon law --- you claim to be unbiased or you claim to be concerned yet in the end you really want all hell to break loose against the White House and Obama.....

At least Lemon law will come and say that he is pro - Palestinian!

People like you Waggy have a serious problem with the truth!!

why is when someone has a weak argument they need to attack? really seems silly to me.

but contine jedi since you really don't know me or where i come form.

 

[Perknose]

Just can't seem to wrap your head around the fact they were convicted and the case was dropped before sentencing?

NO, they were NOT all convicted. Just one default judgment, the others were dropped prior to any judge's decision.

you do know that the DOJ WON the case? but again this thread is not about that.

YOUR BASIC FACTS ARE WRONG. Charges on all but one were dropped before anything was "won."

The case was WON by the DOJ.

WRONG. SEE ABOVE.

You do know that the case was already tried? it was pretty much done. it was int he penality phase when it was dropped.

the DOJ HAD WON.

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

I think "the inherit logical flaw" in above is that the DoJ ALREADY prosecuted the case...

AGAIN, WRONG.

Not ONE of you has your basic facts straight.

None of the defendants responded to the lawsuit. Instead of immediately filing for a default judgment as is the normal procedure, sources told The Bulletin the DOJ asked for and received an order from the court providing an extension of time to file. Specifically, they asked the court to give them until May 15.

But on May 15, DOJ changed its mind again. Rather than a default judgment, the DOJ filed a notice of voluntary dismissal of the lawsuit for two of the defendants. This included Mr. Jackson, who identified himself to police as a member of the Democratic Committee in the 14th Ward. He also produced credentials to that effect.

DOJ only asked for a default judgment against one defendant, Samir Shabazz, which was granted on May 18. But sources say the proposed order for the default judgment asks for none of the usual conditions the Justice Department would want, such as keeping Mr. Shabazz away from any polling locations for a set number of years into the future.

 

[heyheybooboo]

"Weak case"?

Reading/research and facts are your friends:



All you need do is google this event to find affidavits and other official-type evidence to see that a voting crime may well have taken place.

Otherwise, your juvenile name-calling and "well they did it too" stuff does nothing to advance your cause in attempting to dimmish this event.

Fern

No offense, Fern, but on this one you are full of shit and a bigger tool than Bull & Adams.

An affidavit from Bartle Bull is proof of nothing.

And the rantings of J. Christian Adams? A political appointee (not career as is often portrayed by the Wing Nut Propaganda Machine) in the Bush-Gonzales DoJ? Do you even know who Adams is?

The GOP is clearly gearing up for some serious voter suppression and vote caging this Fall.

Sorry I hurt your feelings. The truth does that, sometimes.




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[Pens1566]

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

So now whats your problem with the decision to drop?

 

[classy]

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

So now whats your problem with the decision to drop?

Now you can't do that. You can't bring coffee to a tea party.

 

[Double Trouble]

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

So now whats your problem with the decision to drop?

Oh my, I guess voter intimidation is fine if it's in a heavily democratic district? The author of that article is borderline retarded with her lack of logic. Nobody came out and spoke up? Gee, you think I'd speak up when there are armed "new black panthers" around shouting racist slurs?

I don't know if it was the Obama DOJ or Bush DOJ that chose to drop the charges on the others, but the one guy they got the default judgment on (shabaz whatever the criminal's name is) admitted to what he did.

I'd ask anyone who doesn't have an issue with something like this: would you have an issue with a bunch of clansmen standing around a polling station with a noose and batons yelling racial slurs at voters? Of course you would, just like any sane person would. All these thugs should be in jail, just like anyone who tries to intimidate or prevent others from voting as they wish.

 

[Lanyap]

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

So now whats your problem with the decision to drop?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JunrpGf5QRc


New Black Panther Party President Admits to Philadelphia Voter Intimidation; Holder’s Justice Department Still Silent

by Larry O'Connor

“You know we don’t carry batons…. PSYCHE! Heh heh heh… I’m just playin’” – Malik Zulu Shabazz, Preident of The New Black Panther Party.

The Justice Department has seen fit to drop voter intimidation charges against Malik Shabazz’ New Black Panther Party’s involvement in the now infamous events at a polling place in Philadelphia on November 4, 2008. In light of the recent testimony by former DOJ attorney J. Christian Adams before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, the story is gaining further attention and scrutiny.

Now, Breitbart.tv is featuring a newly discovered video showing Shabazz boasting about his organizations intentions that day in Philadelphia.

“There were strong intelligence indicators that there was going to be some trouble at the polls and we wanted to make sure the police were not harassing our people so we wanted to go out and do what we could. It’s just that sometimes the New Black Panther Party, sometimes, whatever we do we just tend to do it kinda strong.”

Finally, Shabazz instructs his disciples that as soon as a “Black man” took over the Justice Department the charges were thrown out.

This new video is even more damning to the Obama Justice Department given the astounding testimony by Mr. Adams:

“I was told by Voting Section management that cases are not going to be brought against Black defendants for the benefit of White victims. That if somebody wanted to bring these cases, it was up to the US Attorney but the Civil Rights Division wasn’t going to be bringing it.”

Under these new revelations and the increasing pressure from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, how long can Attorney General Eric Holder allow the perception to remain that crimes under his watch are only enforced if the victims and the perpetrators fit the correct racial profile?

http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010...-still-silent/

 

[Double Trouble]

“I was told by Voting Section management that cases are not going to be brought against Black defendants for the benefit of White victims. That if somebody wanted to bring these cases, it was up to the US Attorney but the Civil Rights Division wasn’t going to be bringing it.”http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010...-still-silent/

I wasn't there so I don't know if this is in fact true, but if it is, this would be the most racist administration since Wallace in Alabama. Sick and shocking, but we don't know if indeed it's true.

 

[Pens1566]

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/07/12/bush-doj-decided-new-black-panthers-no-major-case/

So now whats your problem with the decision to drop?

Cliffs for those that don't want to read :

Bush DOJ dropped case to civil. Blame him. The marxist-socialist-muslim-kenyan wasn't even in office yet, nor were the doj officials blamed throughout this thread.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, that sure is convincing, a blog post by a stupid liberal who has trouble understanding that even in a "heavily democratic" district, at least 30% of the voters still have enough sense not to vote democrat.

 

[werepossum]

Cliffs for those that don't want to read :

Bush DOJ dropped case to civil. Blame him. The marxist-socialist-muslim-kenyan wasn't even in office yet, nor were the doj officials blamed throughout this thread.

Since you probably are honestly too stupid to understand: We're discussing the dropping of the CIVIL case. The prosecution was seeking CIVIL penalties, not CRIMINAL penalties, mainly injunctions to keep these people away from polling places in future elections to prevent similar occurrences. Obama-Holder decided that blacks cannot be guilty of such violations by virtue of being black, dismissed the cases not yet adjudicated, and substituted a token and completely ineffective punishment of that individual already successfully prosecuted.

 

[Pens1566]

Duck, dodge, divert. To be expected.

Since you're apparently too stupid to read the linked articles where its shown the people allegedly making these declarations DIDN'T EVEN WORK AT DOJ AT THE TIME.